Beach District Week 2 (March 19-24)

Kellam 7, Salem 3

Who pitched??? Any other scores from the Beach today???

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Originally posted by Peter Franchise:
Who pitched??? Any other scores from the Beach today???

S. Sinnen pitched 4, Moynihan pitched at least 2 for Kellam (I left after 5 1/2 innings). Staskey pitched into the 5th (I believe) for Salem, and was relieved by Musante and maybe one other pitcher.

Will be interesting who will pitch for Kellam tomorrow vs. Landstown.

Cox over Kempsville 8-3

FC over OL (not sure of score)

PA over Bayside (not sure of score)

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Originally posted by bball_lifer:

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Originally posted by Peter Franchise:
Who pitched??? Any other scores from the Beach today???

S. Sinnen pitched 4, Moynihan pitched at least 2 for Kellam (I left after 5 1/2 innings). Staskey pitched into the 5th (I believe) for Salem, and was relieved by Musante and maybe one other pitcher.

Will be interesting who will pitch for Kellam tomorrow vs. Landstown.

I think he only pitched those two innings so he might start today. Looks like Kellam has plenty of pitching though. Should be fun to watch how they work the rotation today. They have a bye Friday (correct?) so they have time to recover regardless of who they throw today.

princess anne 4 bayside 2
first colonial 13 ocean lakes 3
green run 10 tallwood 1

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Originally posted by bball_lifer:

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Originally posted by Peter Franchise:
Who pitched??? Any other scores from the Beach today???

S. Sinnen pitched 4, Moynihan pitched at least 2 for Kellam (I left after 5 1/2 innings). Staskey pitched into the 5th (I believe) for Salem, and was relieved by Musante and maybe one other pitcher.

Will be interesting who will pitch for Kellam tomorrow vs. Landstown.

How could Moynihan get the W when he came in with the lead in the 5th? Shouldn't the win go to Sam Sinnen?

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Originally posted by redbird5:

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Originally posted by bball_lifer:

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Originally posted by Peter Franchise:
Who pitched??? Any other scores from the Beach today???

S. Sinnen pitched 4, Moynihan pitched at least 2 for Kellam (I left after 5 1/2 innings). Staskey pitched into the 5th (I believe) for Salem, and was relieved by Musante and maybe one other pitcher.

Will be interesting who will pitch for Kellam tomorrow vs. Landstown.

How could Moynihan get the W when he came in with the lead in the 5th? Shouldn't the win go to Sam Sinnen?

Not sure where your question is going. I didn't indicate who got the win at all, Redbird....

Salem tied the game up at 3 apiece with three unearned runs, but I'm not sure whether that happened in the top 4th or 5th....

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Not sure where your question is going. I didn't indicate who got the win at all, Redbird....

Salem tied the game up at 3 apiece with three unearned runs, but I'm not sure whether that happened in the top 4th or 5th....

The Pilot reported that Moynihan got the win.

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Originally posted by redbird5:

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Not sure where your question is going. I didn't indicate who got the win at all, Redbird....

Salem tied the game up at 3 apiece with three unearned runs, but I'm not sure whether that happened in the top 4th or 5th....

The Pilot reported that Moynihan got the win.

The pilot is wrong, Sammy came out in 5th with kellam up 4-3. Sammy should have got the win.

I could be wrong but i think you have to go at least 5 innings as a starter to get the win in 7 inning games

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Originally posted by CARDS FAN:
I could be wrong but i think you have to go at least 5 innings as a starter to get the win in 7 inning games

Actually it's 4. It's 5 in a 9 inning game.

MLB rule is five innings, but that is based upon a nine inning game. With a seven inning game, four innings sounds right.

than sam should have gotten the win you r right dawg about 4 innings for high school, maybe the coach called it in wrong

so if a starter goes 3 innings, the a reliever goes 2, then the closer goes 2, who gets the win?

In that scenario, the starter CANNOT, under any circumstances, qualify for the win, because NFHS rules are clear in requiring a starter to complete the 4th inning. This is a common source of mistakes, especially in games shortened by the slaughter rule, but it's still the rule.

The middle guy would get the win if his team had the lead as of the time the closer entered the game and the lead was never relinquished. If it turns out that the winning team took the lead only after the closer came in, then he would get the W.

just found it in the rules the reliever would get the win and the closer would get the save. if a game is called by mercy rule the starter must complete 3innings in a 5 inning game

Here is the situation, Team A is up 4 to 3 in the 3 rd inning, pitcher for Team A is relieved after pitching 2 and 2/3rd Inning, relief pitches comes in and completes 3 rd inning and pitches 1 and 1/3 score less innings, so now another pitcher comes in and pitches the 6th and team wins by mercy rule, so who gets win? the 2nd pitcher who held the lead, or closer?, or the 1st guy because game only went 6 innings?

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Originally posted by CARDS FAN:
maybe the coach called it in wrong

Not an uncommon occurrence, as I have seen, for a high school coach to credit the win to a pitcher in contravention of the rules. The one I have seen more than once is the starter being credited with a win when he pitched only 3 innings of a 7 inning game.

Best to read MLB rule 10.17 for determination.

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Originally posted by Pilots81:
Here is the situation, Team A is up 4 to 3 in the 3 rd inning, pitcher for Team A is relieved after pitching 2 and 2/3rd Inning, relief pitches comes in and completes 3 rd inning and pitches 1 and 1/3 score less innings, so now another pitcher comes in and pitches the 6th and team wins by mercy rule, so who gets win? the 2nd pitcher who held the lead, or closer?, or the 1st guy because game only went 6 innings?

Assuming Team A never fell behind or was tied the first reliever usually gets the win although the MLB does allow wiggle room for the Scorekeeper to credit a win to the most effective picher. So if a team used it's #2 in the top of the 3rd to get out of the inning and then blew the game open in the bottom of the inning and reliever #8 from the bullpen came in for the last two innings he could qualify for the win. The starter gets 2 2/3 innings of 3 run ball to his credit and that's it.

I was only asking cause it seems like several teams are going to a 3 man GAME rotation, starter, reliever, closer, a win is a win and thats the bottom line.

MLB's Official Rules of Baseball, because they are so much more detailed and specific, are sometimes consulted to resolve vagaries in other groups' rules. However, on this rule, NFHS, NCAA and MLB rules are all different, and the very explicit differences make it a mistake to resort to ORB for interpretation of NFHS.

For example, MLB-ORB is not going to help you if you're trying to decide whether you can credit a starter with a win in a 5-inning slaughter game where he was pulled after 3 innings because of the game situation. That's because in MLB there is no slaughter rule, so you're not going to find anything referencing a comparable situation.

NCAA and only NCAA has a provision to permit a coach to declare a "staff game" prior to first pitch, in which case the starter can qualify for a win without completing the 5th. Again, nothing comparable in the ORB, nor in the NFHS.

WB Reporter is right, coaches often credit wins in their internal stats that are not per the rules. It's not really correct. But it's also not a big source of complaint, either.

Landstown at Kellam rained out again. Rescheduled for April 4th.

Midlo, great point and great answer by WB reporter, sometimes the rules arn't fair to the player who is only doing what the coaches ask,

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Not an uncommon occurrence, as I have seen, for a high school coach to credit the win to a pitcher in contravention of the rules.

contravention: 1. act of contravening; action counter to something; violation or opposition

Please my dear, not such big words on this site. They make our heads hurt.

dear-held in tender affection;beloved

Ok, I'll stop while I'm ahead BABE.

bball,
If that is the rescheduled date for this rainout... ? That will certainly challenge Kellam's pitching staff as it will give them a total of six games in ten days !

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Originally posted by driller:
bball,
If that is the rescheduled date for this rainout... ? That will certainly challenge Kellam's pitching staff as it will give them a total of six games in ten days !

Yup, Landstown too, including three straight from Apr. 3rd to the 5th.

Landstown at Green Run postponed due to rain.

Score was tied at 1-1 in the bottom of the 5th, but game must be restarted.

Makeup date not announced yet.

Princess Anne - 2, Cox - 1

wally wienrth???? anytime, any place, funny, ha/ha, i hope you have done as much as me for kids/baseball, go ahead, ha/ha, its personal now,

Kville over OL 6-3

Salem - 6, Bayside - 0

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This message board is not the forum for your personal attacks. I would suggest a phone call or conversation to settle the issue rather than anonymously attacking him on a message board.

Wally, you have a PM.

Is #9 for Landstown a freshman because when he becomes a sr he will be a prospect on the bump!QUOTE]Originally posted by bball_lifer:
Landstown at Kellam rained out again. Rescheduled for April 4th.[/QUOTE]

Pilot, did not catch what Wally Weirdo said? You have paid back more than enough, to the kids!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Pilots81:
wally wienrth???? anytime, any place, funny, ha/ha, i hope you have done as much as me for kids/baseball, go ahead, ha/ha, its personal now,

How did Salem look bballer?

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Originally posted by bball_lifer:
Salem - 6, Bayside - 0