Bert Blyleven shunned again!

How many years is it now that he has not gotten the votes?

Listened to BB give phone interview on MLB network. What a refreshingly humble person. If those 5 writers who voted for no one (Jay Mariotti included) had properly done their due diligence then both men would have been elected.

Interestingly, on both ESPN and MLB, Robbie Alomar was the consensus number one choice for selection.

Bert had the best curveball I have ever seen.

Yes agree on Bert not getting in just don't get it, he was a great pitcher. I am thrilled to see Dawson make it as a 5 tool player that was clean. I was also suprised to see Alomar not get in.

BUT, congratulations to "The Hawk" Andre Dawson on his entry to the Hall of Fame.

May 8, 1990, I sat seven rows behind first base and watched the Cubs beat the Atlanta Braves in extra innings. Andre Dawson hit a home run in the 9th inning to tie the game and a home run in the 11th to win.

Dawson had one of the best arms I have ever seen from the outfield

No way Bert is a HOFer in my opinion unless my boy "double duty" gets in. Radcliffe had more than 4,000 hits and 400 home runs, won about 500 games on the mound and had 4,000 strike-outs. As a brudda I think this is an injustice to the game.

Ripcord, you are right but the greater injustice is that he wasn't allowed to play in The Majors.

Bert Blyleven? well, maybe....certainly not anything to get excited about.....a career winning pct. of .519? Very good? yes. Great? Not so sure about that. Lots of wins? yes. Lots of losses? yes.

Winning pct.(.534, not .519) means virtually nothing since the Twins and every team he played for were about 2 seasons below .500 during his career.

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Originally posted by soxnole:
Winning pct.(.534, not .519) means virtually nothing since the Twins and every team he played for were about 2 seasons below .500 during his career.

Totally agree. Bert was a fabulous pitcher here in Cleveland when our team stunk frankly. He is no doubt a hall-of-famer in my mind. People forget he played a key role out of the bullpen in the 1979 "We are family" Pittsburgh Pirates World Series Championship. He was a tremendous talent imho and one of the best curve balls I have ever seen. There are people with far less stats than him in the hall of fame.

OK

Which HOF pitcher has "far" less stats than this Be home Blylevan guy.

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Originally posted by ripcord51:
Which HOF pitcher has "far" less stats than this Be home Blylevan guy.

Sandy Koufax has 165 wins.

Juan Marichal has 243 wins.

Catfish Hunter had 224 wins.

Nolan Ryan has a lower winning percentage albeit not "far less"

We can find more guys who have less than 287 wins. Blyleven is hampered by the fact he played for mostly cra-ppy teams in small markets imho.

People can always find reasons why someone ought to be in or someone ought to be left out. IMHO, Bert is a HOF pitcher.

This one I just dont understand. He is a HOF pitcher and he should be in the HOF. He has the stats. If he had played on better teams he would already be in. Look what he accomplished playing for terrible teams. Its a shame imo he has not been given the proper credit he deserves.