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Best Cities For Year Round Baseball

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RJMRJMHSBaseballWeb member since 2007
Coach May is from Stem, NC. I guess he didn't take your question seriously given it's origins in your other post.

Do you really want your son playing competitive baseball year round? Do you understand wear and tear? Repetitive Stress Syndrome? Injuries to growth plates?

After this weekend my son (sixteen) puts the baseball equipment away for two months. The next two months will be nothing but physical training he maintains through February (except for playing in a rec basketball league twice a week). In January he'll pick up the bat and glove. In February he'll pick up the ball. In March his baseball schedule starts through October.

When my son was your son's age he put the baseball equipment away about August first. He picked it up again in March. In between he played football, s0ccer, basketball, skied, skateboarded and surfed.
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OCB -
Are you truly curious about what cities are best for year round baseball? You're in Florida.

IMO you are going to push your son to retirement at age 16. Believe me, it happens - those boys that loved the game when they were 10 are burnt by 16 because their Dad's thought they were helping their son chase an elusive dream that few attain.

Don't do it. Encourage your boys to play basketball. If they are older, they condition off season.

If you really want your boy to quit - Move to Cobb County, GA give up your life and encourage your son play 12 months... guaranteed he will hang up his cleats at 16 or have tommy john surgery.
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
This is so silly, a florida resident asking what cities are good for year round baseball.
I am wondering why OP location says south florida but living in central florida, have you moved, have you burned too many bridges to stay in the state.

Read up on the dangers of playing year round baseball, especially for younger players.
O OCB100+ posts
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Originally posted by TPM:
This is so silly, a florida resident asking what cities are good for year round baseball.
I am wondering why OP location says south florida but living in central florida, have you moved, have you burned too many bridges to stay in the state.

Read up on the dangers of playing year round baseball, especially for younger players.


If its silly to you then you have the god given right to not participate in the discussion.

However you seem like that kid in school who was always the one that started the fights between others but never got in to one yourself.

So again this thread topic is Best Cities For Year Round Baseball.

It is not about injuries, burnout, moving or wonder whys. So again I appreciate thoses who can read and responded to the posted question.
Hawk19Hawk19100+ posts
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So again this thread topic is Best Cities For Year Round Baseball.


Phoenix plays baseball year around...Spring, Summer, Fall leagues...lots of tournaments put on by different organizations....Spring Training....Camps and showcases...Nationals...

However, like others have pointed out, year round play is not a good thing. If I had it to do over, I would have my son play less, not more, baseball at 10, 11, 12...

He played a lot of baseball those three years and then he came down hurt (although his problem wasn't caused by playing baseball, it prevented him from playing baseball)....limited play at 13, 14...Played hurt as a freshman and had elbow surgery last November and was able to play as a soph but not 100% and obviously behind in conditioning...

My point is that I wouldn't take a chance on hurting him at 10, 11, 12 playing year round...take a break....why risk not playing more important baseball later(and looking back, 10u was not important and I know HS will seem trivial if he plays college and so on....)

And we moved between 10 and 11 (I was transferred). It was never the same. He was the 'outsider' in LL and the 'new guy' in travel....Stay and play with his friends....Make peace and stay quiet and play Majors/AAA only...the wear and tear of playing more baseball at the AA level isn't worth it...Fighting with the TD isn't worth it...Who cares what others are doing in the quest for a trophy at the AA level?? Enjoy the ride, it will be over too soon...
O OCB100+ posts
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Originally posted by Hawk19:
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So again this thread topic is Best Cities For Year Round Baseball.


Phoenix plays baseball year around...Spring, Summer, Fall leagues...lots of tournaments put on by different organizations....Spring Training....Camps and showcases...Nationals...

However, like others have pointed out, year round play is not a good thing. If I had it to do over, I would have my son play less, not more, baseball at 10, 11, 12...

He played a lot of baseball those three years and then he came down hurt (although his problem wasn't caused by playing baseball, it prevented him from playing baseball)....limited play at 13, 14...Played hurt as a freshman and had elbow surgery last November and was able to play as a soph but not 100% and obviously behind in conditioning...

My point is that I wouldn't take a chance on hurting him at 10, 11, 12 playing year round...take a break....why risk not playing more important baseball later(and looking back, 10u was not important and I know HS will seem trivial if he plays college and so on....)

And we moved between 10 and 11 (I was transferred). It was never the same. He was the 'outsider' in LL and the 'new guy' in travel....Stay and play with his friends....Make peace and stay quiet and play Majors/AAA only...the wear and tear of playing more baseball at the AA level isn't worth it...Fighting with the TD isn't worth it...Who cares what others are doing in the quest for a trophy at the AA level?? Enjoy the ride, it will be over too soon...


When I say year round baseball I am not saying he will play 12 months straight. We do take time off. LIke this year he took 6 to 8 weeks off.

You mentioned being the new guy in an area. We are new here so to speak. We have only lived here for about 14 months. We are also not trophy chasing parents. I could care less about the trophies.

If I want my son to have trophies I can go buy as many as I want for him. We have however been fortunate in that our Major teams last year were very good and both won about 75% of the tournaments they entered.

As for arm injuries my wife and I do monitor this. Most kids you see with arm injuries in travel ball or rec ball are pitchers. I dont allow him to pitch so we do take precautions with how much he is throwing.

A good stretching program along with a good workout program and good mechanics help prevent a lot of arm injuries.

Thanks for giving me your input on baseball in Phoenix and the other advice.
Hawk19Hawk19100+ posts
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We have however been fortunate in that our Major teams last year were very good and both won about 75% of the tournaments they entered.


Both? He plays on multiple major teams? Then why give a rat's behind about being a guest player on a AA team....

It's hard to not play year around here in AZ....too many opportunities that seem too good to pass up...And its fun....requires discipline to just say 'no'...

This is the first week of HS basketball practice but we're playing baseball this weekend and Thanksgiving and again Christmas week....we don't have any discipline... Wink
O OCB100+ posts
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Originally posted by Hawk19:
[QUOTE] Both? He plays on multiple major teams? Then why give a rat's behind about being a guest player on a AA team....


I don't think this has anything to do with being a guest player on a AA team. I suspect this kid is not getting PT and Dad is P.O.'d.


It has nothing to do with Play time. He starts at SS and is either leadoff batter or hits in the 2 hole for every team he plays on. It has nothing to do with me coaching since I dont coach any of his teams.

As for why give a rats *** about a AA team. Let me explain since some of you who still have trouble reading what the thread is about understand.

The team he was asked to guest play for, the coach is a friend of mine. The kids on the team my son is friends with. So in short this team only had 8 players because 2 of the players got sick the night before the tournament. We agreed to play just to help a friend out.

Now I know that might be hard for some of you to understand since in your mind its always my kid against yours type attitude or its my kid is too good to play for such a team.

Now again maybe where you come from or the way you were raised you dont help friends when they need it but the way I was raised if you are able to help a friend you do it.

As for the old post about the daddyball well shortly after all that happen the team broke up. The coach that had that team cant put another one together and has tried. Why because others saw what I was able to see shortly there after quit.

I know this for a fact because some of those kids and parents play on my sons current team.

Again lets try to stay on topic or if you dont habla maybe I can translate the post in to another language for you.
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C cball500+ posts
Nations in Houston. USSSA is still around too.

There's alot of good baseball here in the Houston area.
Specifically NW area and the Woodlands up north of town.

Most select teams play a mix of Nations, USSSA, Triple Crown and some Super Series.

The Banditos are not for everyone but you can google them and see what they're about.
They play 100 games a year at 10U.
O OCB100+ posts
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Nations in Houston. USSSA is still around too.

There's alot of good baseball here in the Houston area.
Specifically NW area and the Woodlands up north of town.

Most select teams play a mix of Nations, USSSA, Triple Crown and some Super Series.

The Banditos are not for everyone but you can google them and see what they're about.
They play 100 games a year at 10U.


Yeah I know we have played in tournaments they have entered but never had the opportunity to face them.

Are there many good training academies / Instructors in Houston?
BOFBOF10,000+ posts
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Originally posted by OCB:
I would like to hear what you think are the best cities for year round baseball. I am primarily interested in an age range from 10u through 14u.


Am I the only one who thinks this is crazy? You are looking to move to a place to live that is good for baseball for your 10-14U son or sons?

How about quality of life, closeness to relatives, friends, weather, job opportunites, churches, art, music, schools, colleges, etc, etc, etc. For crying out loud he can play baseball anywhere, even Canada. (sorry BHD)
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hahaha.

No Bof - we are the sane ones, I think OCD has lost it.

Apparently according to the other posts, his son was denied playing in 10U Usssa Tournament for one weekend because his classification was not correct, so everyone knows the logical thing to do is move to another warm state where his son will not persecuted so violently.
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Coach_MayCoach_May10,000+ posts
TR we have seen this type of parent many times. Its about them not the kid. Oh they say its all about their kid. "He loves the game so much I just want to do whatever I can to make sure he gets the best opportunities." But in reality its all about them. The kids at this age could careless about some of the things some parents do.

And to answer your question that you already know the answer to it goes like this.

He becomes a pain in the rear of the HS coach if he is still playing when he gets to HS. He comes on here and posts how the coach is playing politics. He wants to relocate his son once again but now the kid is old enough to voice his own opinion and doesnt want to leave his friends. The dad becomes bitter and infects his son with the same bitterness. Soon everyone around this guy is miserable when he is around. It never ends good for the kid or parent. They soon fade away never to be heard of around here again. They become a very distant memory.

He says he played D1 baseball. If so this shocks me. The parents I have had over the years that played have been some of the most enjoyable to be around and are the last to get caught up in these types of situations.

The sad thing is the person that is going to suffer the most is the kid. It really is a shame. I can bet you there is not one decent coach in America that knowing the circumstances would want to inherit this situation. No way.
O OCB100+ posts
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Originally posted by BOF:
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Originally posted by OCB:
I would like to hear what you think are the best cities for year round baseball. I am primarily interested in an age range from 10u through 14u.


Am I the only one who thinks this is crazy? You are looking to move to a place to live that is good for baseball for your 10-14U son or sons?

How about quality of life, closeness to relatives, friends, weather, job opportunites, churches, art, music, schools, colleges, etc, etc, etc. For crying out loud he can play baseball anywhere, even Canada. (sorry BHD)


Why do you call me crazy when your response is way out in left field. Lets take a look at your response.

Quality of Life: Quality of life is what one makes of it. Your idea of quality and mine maybe two separate ideals.

Closeness of Relatives: Again when we make assumptions, we make what of ourselves...LOL. No matter where I move I will be closer to relatives than here in Fla.

Friends: So what you are suggesting is that when you move or a friend moves you no longer are friends. We have friends from Fla to California. We all keep in touch with them regularly.

Weather: How redundant. I live in Florida, most year round baseball cities will have warm weather.

Job Opportunities: I am retired at the age of 45, how important do you think a job is for me or my family.

Churches: Dont attend, so not an issue

Art: I have all I need on my walls

Music: I-Pod is a great gaget you should check one out LOL.

Schools: My son is home schooled so a states educational system isnt very important for us.

Colleges: I am amazed that you would include that in your response LOL. Hmm..My son may be able to attend Harvard but does that mean I have to live there. LOL get real.

BHD I understand your frustration. I know you are envious of others who can do things you might not have been able to supply for your son or sons. Out of all the dads of ball players on this site I see you boasting the most about yours. Just like when I mentioned my son was home schooled and his evaluation, you came right in and said well my son did this and my son did that. Sounds a little envious from where I am sitting.

TRhit: This is not HS its youth baseball. Once he reaches HS he will do what he has up to this point. He will earn everything he gets. Unlike MAYBE some of the other dads here I dont coach any of my sons teams.

His spot on these teams has been because he is the best choice for that position and spot in the batting order.

This is a kid that of his own free will and love for the game. When he works out he hits 400 to 600 balls per 3 days per week. He does 700 push ups and 500 sit ups per week. He works the speed ladder. He works with a hitting instructor 2 hours a week. His brother who played in the Dodger and Cardinal organizations as a SS works with him on the field with his infield mechanics. Plus other things that most at this age dont have the drive, passion or heart to do even once they reach HS.

When I say he has a love for the game of baseball this isnt just a father hoping or pushing his son. An example. One of you mentioned about playing video games. He plays them. We can go play a tournament on Sunday and have had 4 games in that day. He gets home and wants to play his Wii...the game of choice, its a baseball game.

Now as long as the doctors, my wife, his brother and myself continue to see he is health and happy we will allow him to do what makes him happy.
RJMRJMHSBaseballWeb member since 2007
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He says he played D1 baseball. If so this shocks me. The parents I have had over the years that played have been some of the most enjoyable to be around and are the last to get caught up in these types of situations.
Yep. These dads tell their kid to toughen up, get over it and get better if they don't like what's happening.
RJMRJMHSBaseballWeb member since 2007
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This is a kid that of his own free will and love for the game. When he works out he hits 400 to 600 balls per 3 days per week. He does 700 push ups and 500 sit ups per week. He works the speed ladder. He works with a hitting instructor 2 hours a week. His brother who played in the Dodger and Cardinal organizations as a SS works with him on the field with his infield mechanics. Plus other things that most at this age dont have the drive, passion or heart to do even once they reach HS.
I've never heard of a kid doing these things out of free will. They are done because the dad initiated the process. Then the kid does it (and the dad thinks it's free will) to please dad. At about fifteen years old the kid starts slacking off these drills, dad gets ticked and the kid tells dad to shove it and throws his glove in the trash. End of baseball. I know parents and kids where this has happened.

My son didn't work that hard when he was ten and college programs are taking notice of his abilities at sixteen. At ten he played baseball from March through the end of July. He didn't take his first paid lesson until he was fifteen. Before that, as a former college baseball player I could provide any instruction he needed along with the travel team coaching staff (all former college and/or pros) I arranged.

At ten, my son loved basketball, football and s0ccer just as much because I didn't steer him in any one direction. "HE" ultimately decided baseball was most important.
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O OCB100+ posts
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We all know this Dad - thinks his kid is best, and can't understand why everyone else can't see it.


No my kid isnt the best. My oldest son wasnt the best but he worked hard and made it as high as AAA and decided to hang the cleats up last year.

Its not always the best that makes it. There are a lot of players in the minors with the tools to be in the show but cant make it.

TRhit: yes you can at times in Usssa on Championship Sunday play up to 4 games to win the championship. Guess you havent played Usssa, its common.
O OCB100+ posts
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Originally posted by RJM:
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This is a kid that of his own free will and love for the game. When he works out he hits 400 to 600 balls per 3 days per week. He does 700 push ups and 500 sit ups per week. He works the speed ladder. He works with a hitting instructor 2 hours a week. His brother who played in the Dodger and Cardinal organizations as a SS works with him on the field with his infield mechanics. Plus other things that most at this age dont have the drive, passion or heart to do even once they reach HS.
I've never heard of a kid doing these things out of free will. They are done because the dad initiated the process. Then the kid does it (and the dad thinks it's free will) to please dad. At about fifteen years old the kid starts slacking off these drills, dad gets ticked and the kid tells dad to shove it and throws his glove in the trash. End of baseball. I know parents and kids where this has happened.

My son didn't work that hard when he was ten and college programs are taking notice of his abilities at sixteen. At ten he played baseball from March through the end of July. He didn't take his first paid lesson until he was fifteen. Before that, as a former college baseball player I could provide any instruction he needed along with the travel team coaching staff (all former college and/or pros) I arranged.

At ten, my son loved basketball, football and s0ccer just as much because I didn't steer him in any one direction. "HE" ultimately decided baseball was most important.


No actually it was his brother who got him to doing these things. He looks up to his brother and they are very very close. They do a lot of these things together. We are a very close family and we do spend time doing things other than baseball.

As for other sports he isnt interested I have asked him if he wanted to play football, basketball or anything else and he has flat out said no.
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
I find it interesting there was no response to CM's post.
Not understanding if you have an older son and been though this beofre, why all the daddy questions, you can't figure all of this out on your own. You are 45 but have a son who reached AAA?
Something isn't kosher here, to much information.
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