Boy and I thought I was over the top with travel ball. 
quote:Originally posted by cball:
BHD
What's wrong with a beautiful 25Yo having implants?
Oh BHD, lets be kind here... If the girl doesn't feel complete with her innate body parts, a little remodeling should be ok, after all, I DID have braces as a kid and consumed lots of protein for manly muscles.
There is something to be said about developing the innate body parts.
quote:Originally posted by BobbleheadDoll:
Called no self esteem.
You are totally out of line here. A 25 year old woman has every right to do what she pleases with her own body.
As far as parents having money and using it to make their children happy, down here sweet sixteen presents often given by parents to their daughters include breat implants.
The a whole other issue.
PG,
I am with you, OCB's location is south florida, but he claimes he lives by Orlando.
Yes he asked a question, but why does a person who lives in FL want to go looking for better baseball somewhere else in the country?
I am glad you picked up on that too TR, I don't get it.
quote:Originally posted by TPM:quote:Originally posted by BobbleheadDoll:
Called no self esteem.
You are totally out of line here. A 25 year old woman has every right to do what she pleases with her own body.
As far as parents having money and using it to make their children happy, down here sweet sixteen presents often given by parents to their daughters include breat implants.
The a whole other issue.
PG,
I am with you, OCB's location is south florida, but he claimes he lives by Orlando.
Yes he asked a question, but why does a person who lives in FL want to go looking for better baseball somewhere else in the country?
I am glad you picked up on that too TR, I don't get it.
Its easy why I want to go looking elsewhere. This is not what I want here for my son. Its too much about my son vs your son here and not team, plus other issues I have raised in my thread. It may or may not be different elsewhere hence the reason I have asked questions of most of you but have yet to get a good number of real responses.
As for the 25 yr old girl as long as they were DD I would be happy for her even if she wasnt. LOL
Utopia.......unfortunately you can't buy it, even with all of your money. 
OCB, you are going to find that no matter where you go. The grass is almost never greener on the other side. Many people on this board wish they could be where you are. Gotta find the right team. Just let your kid play and have fun. 10 years old is too young to be worried about all this.
quote:
Its easy why I want to go looking elsewhere. This is not what I want here for my son. Its too much about my son vs your son here and not team, plus other issues I have raised in my thread. It may or may not be different elsewhere hence the reason I have asked questions of most of you but have yet to get a good number of real responses.
You are an enigma, I am trying to figure you out.
First of all, no one has any right to tell one parent what they should or should not do for their child, that's a personal decision, and your business as to how you spend your money. If I made light of that, I am sorry.
Second, the responses you are generating are due to what you are posting, as in the other topic, all you had to do was come on and ask how do you handle the problems that you are encountering in "elite" travel ball, without all the added info, you would have gotten plenty of support, so how you presented your dilemma didn't sit well here. Too much information for a very easy question to be answered. I also agree you have taken some unfair hits, but you set yourslef up for most.
Third, I am not sure you will find the perfect scenerio anywhere you go these days, too many parents indulging their childrens whims as you have stated, on one hand you state you do not like that, but on the other hand you feel that because your son loves the game so much you would do anything to see him happy, just as those parents who love their sons too will do anything and everything also. I see no difference between you and the parents you are complainging about, because of things that you have posted. My philosophy was always if we (husband and I) didn't like a situation, keep quiet for son's sake (he wouldn't know the drama anyway), or move on. But when we moved on we found the same BS going on, and trust me I have seen some stuff you wouldn't beleive, coaches forging birth certificates during tournies then complaing the other team was doing it, dads sending airplane with banner messages to rival teams during playoff games.
Fourth, if you have an older son who has played youth ball, you should know that issues exist, perhaps because of the "me" generation we live in, they have become more compounded, but BS is BS in my opinion.
Fifth, I wish you a lot of luck in finding your dream, which is the perfect place for your son and YOU to be happy. If you find it let us know.
quote:Originally posted by TPM:quote:
Its easy why I want to go looking elsewhere. This is not what I want here for my son. Its too much about my son vs your son here and not team, plus other issues I have raised in my thread. It may or may not be different elsewhere hence the reason I have asked questions of most of you but have yet to get a good number of real responses.
You are an enigma, I am trying to figure you out.
First of all, no one has any right to tell one parent what they should or should not do for their child, that's a personal decision, and your business as to how you spend your money. If I made light of that, I am sorry.
Second, the responses you are generating are due to what you are posting, as in the other topic, all you had to do was come on and ask how do you handle the problems that you are encountering in "elite" travel ball, without all the added info, you would have gotten plenty of support, so how you presented your dilemma didn't sit well here. Too much information for a very easy question to be answered. I also agree you have taken some unfair hits, but you set yourslef up for most.
Third, I am not sure you will find the perfect scenerio anywhere you go these days, too many parents indulging their childrens whims as you have stated, on one hand you state you do not like that, but on the other hand you feel that because your son loves the game so much you would do anything to see him happy, just as those parents who love their sons too will do anything and everything also. I see no difference between you and the parents you are complainging about, because of things that you have posted. My philosophy was always if we (husband and I) didn't like a situation, keep quiet for son's sake (he wouldn't know the drama anyway), or move on. But when we moved on we found the same BS going on, and trust me I have seen some stuff you wouldn't beleive, coaches forging birth certificates during tournies then complaing the other team was doing it, dads sending airplane with banner messages to rival teams during playoff games.
Fourth, if you have an older son who has played youth ball, you should know that issues exist, perhaps because of the "me" generation we live in, they have become more compounded, but BS is BS in my opinion.
Fifth, I wish you a lot of luck in finding your dream, which is the perfect place for your son and YOU to be happy. If you find it let us know.
Thank you for the response and believe it or not I do agree that maybe I offered too much info. As I have said in another post I am somewhat new to elite travel ball. Florida has been my only experience with it. So hence the reason I asked some of these questions.
I dont know if its the same everywhere you go, why because I havent been there but maybe some of you have. Florida as good as the baseball is has some real issues. Parents for the most part on the competitive teams are its their kid against yours when the kids are on the same team LOL.
Its sad some of the stuff I see here and being an optimist I can only hope that it isnt that way in all year round baseball areas.
So to maybe start fresh with this thread. Can some of you tell me how it is in your areas. I understand Florida is a hotbed for baseball but I know it isnt the only hotbed. In order for me to make a sound decision I would appreciate any and all help / information you can share with me.
I agree, the grass is not always greener on the other side of the pasture, many folks here would give anything for their kids to have opportunities found here in FL.
Stop whining, just a suggestion.
Stop whining, just a suggestion.
OCB, I have followed this threat with interest. I tend to sympathize with your original story and plight regarding the TD conflict, and can see how you may be frustrated with the scenario you described. I do think you may be taking the moving to greener pastures angle too far. As many have said, you can't get in a better weather situation than you already have, and you surely know that. The threat to move because you can afford to seems somewhat like the child threatening to hold their breath at bedtime.
On the other hand, although my son was not home-schooled, I think some of the comments regarding your choice in that have been out of line. Seems like I recall another Florida athlete that was home-schooled named Tebow. He turned out OK.
Good Luck, I believe you are sincere in your intentions.
On the other hand, although my son was not home-schooled, I think some of the comments regarding your choice in that have been out of line. Seems like I recall another Florida athlete that was home-schooled named Tebow. He turned out OK.
Good Luck, I believe you are sincere in your intentions.
For the most part baseball "behavior" is close to the same everywhere.
You are in a baseball hotbed where many outstanding baseball people live. Maybe you should look for a better situation right where you live. There is a big difference in organizations within the same areas.
If you live in the Orlando area there are some of the best programs run by some of the best and most high class baseball people in the country. Same goes for South Florida and many other parts of the country, as well. But you should be able to find what you want in baseball without moving anywhere.
If there are other reasons beside baseball, I suggest moving away from the city. That's what I did! No neighbors, it's great!
You are in a baseball hotbed where many outstanding baseball people live. Maybe you should look for a better situation right where you live. There is a big difference in organizations within the same areas.
If you live in the Orlando area there are some of the best programs run by some of the best and most high class baseball people in the country. Same goes for South Florida and many other parts of the country, as well. But you should be able to find what you want in baseball without moving anywhere.
If there are other reasons beside baseball, I suggest moving away from the city. That's what I did! No neighbors, it's great!
I don't think it would make sense to compare showcase ball to 10U so I'll go back to when my son was a preteen. Also I didn't see the need to play travel ball for six months in the preteen years. My son played CR at nine and ten and LL at eleven and twelve (moved within the boundaries of a strong LL program/liked the house, not the LL).quote:Can some of you tell me how it is in your areas.
At 9U and 10U he played and I coached for a summer community based travel team after spring CR rec ball. I didn't see the value of assembling an "elite" (I have trouble with this word at this age) team. I managed parental expectations from the start. At the town level there can be a huge disparity between the best player and the last player on a travel team.
I explained six players would be mostly full time players and six would split time. I explained when we played less talented teams (we were very good) the bottom six would get more playing time. Those in that six who worked hard sometimes played the entire game.
There were three parents who thought their kids walked on water baseball-wise. They were criticial of other kids in the stands. Parents would sit away from these people. None of these three kids are playing in high school. They were just the first kids to become big. They're not big in high school. In fact, only one kid from this team played varsity as a high school soph. Another will make varsity as a junior.
At 11U and 12U I formed a team to play in the USSSA Sunday doubleheader league. I took the sixteen kids from our LL most likely to make all-stars. Every player played at least one full game each Sunday. The idea was to provide all-star quality competition running parallel to the kids playing their LL rec season. It worked. The all-star team played into August both years making states.
It wasn't until 13U we got into full time travel baseball. At this point I figured my son has two years on a full size field to prep for high school baseball. He was the last cut from varsity as a freshman. He would have been the first freshman to ever make varsity. He started as a soph.
I never felt the preteen baseball provided anything more than learning the basics of baseball, learning to compete, learning how to handle adversity and building a passion for playing the game. Given my baseball background I expected him to succeed when he got to the 60/90 field. But it wasn't until he got on that field and produced was I convinced my son was a potential high school baseball player. At sixteen he played on an 18U scout team. He's also on a showcase team. All this without worrying about the level of competition and competitive, "elite" travel in his preteen years.
Back to the three parents in 9U and 10U ball. Whenever they yapped I rolled my eyes and walked away. When one was ten just out of conversation I asked one where their son would attend high school. I asked since the kid was in Catholic school yet his dad is a public high school basketball coach. The mother told me the kid would attend whichever private school gives him the best athletic scholarship. Flashing ahead four years the kid wasn't an athlete. He was the best player on my 9U and 10U teams.
The more I talk to people, the more I like my dog?quote:If there are other reasons beside baseball, I suggest moving away from the city. That's what I did! No neighbors, it's great!
The thing I don't get is that the OP makes it seem like there is nothing going on here in FL that counts at 10 besides elite travel ball.
I see teams every weekend during certain times of the year trying to raise money to get to Cooperstown or Steamboat Springs or just to go play a tournie for the holidays that would provide good fun and competition, it doesn't have to be "elite" ball.
What about the great college camps here in FL, nothing better than one of Mike Martin's week long camp's in summer. What about just going to a pro baseball game, milb games all throughout the state in summer or college game in season? You can learn alot from watching others play their game. You don't have to play 4 games in one day to have lots of fun (what is should be at 10).
I see teams every weekend during certain times of the year trying to raise money to get to Cooperstown or Steamboat Springs or just to go play a tournie for the holidays that would provide good fun and competition, it doesn't have to be "elite" ball.
What about the great college camps here in FL, nothing better than one of Mike Martin's week long camp's in summer. What about just going to a pro baseball game, milb games all throughout the state in summer or college game in season? You can learn alot from watching others play their game. You don't have to play 4 games in one day to have lots of fun (what is should be at 10).
quote:Originally posted by TPM:
The thing I don't get is that the OP makes it seem like there is nothing going on here in FL that counts at 10 besides elite travel ball.
I see teams every weekend during certain times of the year trying to raise money to get to Cooperstown or Steamboat Springs or just to go play a tournie for the holidays that would provide good fun and competition, it doesn't have to be "elite" ball.
What about the great college camps here in FL, nothing better than one of Mike Martin's week long camp's in summer. What about just going to a pro baseball game, milb games all throughout the state in summer or college game in season? You can learn alot from watching others play their game. You don't have to play 4 games in one day to have lots of fun (what is should be at 10).
All great reasons but other year round baseball cities have the same thing if I am not mistaken.
PGstaff: The only options here in Orlando is Usssa. In tampa you have Nations and AAU, however I have mentioned in another post thats 1.5 hours away and for the next year would cost me around 10k extra. Whereas a move would only cost me 15k or so.
The atmosphere here is very strange for youth baseball. There are only a select few teams my son could play for. My son is a fantastic infielder, has great range and above avg arm. He hits leadoff for most teams he has played on but I wont allow him to pitch.
Most teams in this age group are coached by dads whos kids play infield so the options are slim if I want my son to continue working on game experience in the infield. If I allowed him to pitch a ton of teams would be knocking down the door and cater to him position wise somewhat but at this age I am more concern about keeping his arm health and the arm slot for an infielder is a lot different than a pitcher. Plus pitchers here are abused big time.
I have seen coaches throw kids 120+ pitches in a game and then turn around and pitch that same kid two games later. A kid on his team last year I charted his pitches one game and 63% of them were curve balls at 11u ( 107 pitches ). This was the norm. Even at 9u Usssa here you have coaches teaching and having kids throw curve balls. Not slurves but trying to get them to snap a curve off.
The reason for this is because its about winning and little Johnny against little Bobby. Most kids from 9u - 12u have trouble staying back on a curve ball. Most kids here in those age groups will tee off on a fastball. However I guess that is another topic for another thread.
OCB he is 10 years old. Man you just dont get it at all.
quote:Most teams in this age group are coached by dads whos kids play infield so the options are slim if I want my son to continue working on game experience in the infield. If I allowed him to pitch a ton of teams would be knocking down the door and cater to him position wise somewhat but at this age I am more concern about keeping his arm health and the arm slot for an infielder is a lot different than a pitcher. Plus pitchers here are abused big time.
This is a very revealing clause.
Posters have given you great advice and it has turned to insults because you ignore and just merrily continue with what I consider an absurd path.
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
OCB,
One of the best places to play year round baseball is south Florida. We actually come down there to do events in December and January.
It seems that you already live there. I'm confused, but I suppose you could maybe look at the Phoenix area.
Actually, Cedar Rapids, Iowa is a great year round place to play...
Sorry PG, had to get that in there... for the obvious reasons
quote:Originally posted by Coach Waltrip:quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
OCB,
One of the best places to play year round baseball is south Florida. We actually come down there to do events in December and January.
It seems that you already live there. I'm confused, but I suppose you could maybe look at the Phoenix area.
Actually, Cedar Rapids, Iowa is a great year round place to play...
Sorry PG, had to get that in there... for the obvious reasons
Funny since I graduated from the University of Iowa. Im sure my son would love playing winter ball there in 20 below weather. Afterwards maybe we could hit the Vine for some hot wings. :P
quote:Originally posted by Coach_May:
OCB he is 10 years old. Man you just dont get it at all.
No Coach May I do get it, but because I dont agree with it and Im not conforming to what you and a few others believe is correct for a 10 yr old Im wrong? I dont buy that.
Dont get me wrong I do appreciate the advice but thats all it is advice. Whether I choose to follow what others believe is the correct path is mine and my sons choice. I know what my sons choice is and mine as well and neither of them match with some of the advice that has been given.
Coach May you have shown respect and therefore I respect your opinions. You have been a gentleman during this thread even when you havent agreed with my comments. You have been very sincere I do believe you are honestly trying to help based on your own perspectives of youth baseball. However several others havent and because of this there is a lot of information I am not sharing which would maybe change a few opinions.
BHD said it best. Posters have given you great advice and it has turned to insults because you ignore and just merrily continue with WHAT I consider an absurd path. Thanks BHD you made my point for me
OCB always glad to help.
I love people who don't conform,who have original ideas ,who question the perceived normal mold as you put it. However there is nothing in your views that are original. They are old , very old and over the top. The worst is that they will be harmful to your son in regards to BB.
I love people who don't conform,who have original ideas ,who question the perceived normal mold as you put it. However there is nothing in your views that are original. They are old , very old and over the top. The worst is that they will be harmful to your son in regards to BB.
If this is what preteen travel baseball is, my son wouldn't have participated. As it was he played rec ball and some travel in an environment I controlled. It didn't hurt his progress. He had great coaching. Great instruction of fundamentals is more important than the opposition in the preteen years. If a kid can walk on to a 60/90 field at 13U, hit line drives, and use sound fundamentals skills to field and throw, it doesn't matter where he got his training. You've come full circle with your post. You're right back where you started. I don't believe you learned a thing from anyone in this thread.quote:The reason for this is because its about winning and little Johnny against little Bobby.
Good luck beating your head against the wall. If you move you'll probably run into the same things. I live in a cold weather region. I saw the same BS you describe. I just chose not to let my son participate except in an environment I could control. From thirteen to fifteen he won more medals than he knows what to do with. Sometimes he plays ring toss with them.
Here's a little perspective for you. Now that my son is in high school, do you know how often he talked about pre high school baseball? Almost never. Not because there aren't good memories. It's because it's irrelevant to him now. The discussion that comes up are about kids who were LL and 12U travel studs who are ordinary high school players now.
quote:Originally posted by RJM:
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Good luck beating your head against the wall.
RJM - exactly. This guy is who we think he is. He knows everything except where to play baseball year round. Go figure.
quote:Originally posted by OCB:quote:Originally posted by Coach_May:
OCB he is 10 years old. Man you just dont get it at all.
No Coach May I do get it, but because I dont agree with it and Im not conforming to what you and a few others believe is correct for a 10 yr old Im wrong? I dont buy that.
Dont get me wrong I do appreciate the advice but thats all it is advice. Whether I choose to follow what others believe is the correct path is mine and my sons choice. I know what my sons choice is and mine as well and neither of them match with some of the advice that has been given.
Coach May you have shown respect and therefore I respect your opinions. You have been a gentleman during this thread even when you havent agreed with my comments. You have been very sincere I do believe you are honestly trying to help based on your own perspectives of youth baseball. However several others havent and because of this there is a lot of information I am not sharing which would maybe change a few opinions.
BHD said it best. Posters have given you great advice and it has turned to insults because you ignore and just merrily continue with WHAT I consider an absurd path. Thanks BHD you made my point for me
I have known CM for many years, he truely is a kind southern gentleman, but IMO, in his own way he has ripped into you like I have never seen him do, that's just my opinion.
If I were to take any ones opinions or advice seriously, it would most certainly be from Caoch May.
It's ok you don't agree with opinions stated, I often wonder why when people come to post and already have their minds made up, why they even bother. Perhaps it has been mpore of the way you have responded, kind of uppity, self centered and with the attitude your son is special and different than most (as stated before all of our kids are special). Yes, in this topic you asked for best cities for year round, you have even been given advice from one who would know better than anyone (PG), and you haven't gotten the responses you wanted, other than it most likely will be the same wherever you go.
I am in agreement about not letting him pitch at 10. I just have this belief, that until the field changes for youth players, it's more about socialization, learning to take instruction from those other than mom and dad and practice and learning how to play and love the game. On most of the teams son played for, most players rotated positions, often until they grew older and found their strength. Mine played several postions and although most dread the OF he loved it, he didn't sit idle picking weeds, when you play good hitting teams that doesn't happen.
BTW, since you stated that you have a lot of money, this website is expensive to run, I am sure that donations are always welcome.
Without a doubt, San Diego, California. With its eternally beautiful weather.. rarely hot, rarely cold.. it is the best.
Having said that. Right here in Las Vegas is pretty good, too. Baseball is a pretty big sport in this town, with first-class facilities for youth with lights for night play. It cools down to average highs near 60 in Winter, but there is Winter ball. Bryce Harper hails from here.
..and forget about rain delays. It is the sunniest city in America with 85% sunshine year-round.
Now, I haven't seen the play in Texas but doesn't it get pretty steamy in Summer?
Having said that. Right here in Las Vegas is pretty good, too. Baseball is a pretty big sport in this town, with first-class facilities for youth with lights for night play. It cools down to average highs near 60 in Winter, but there is Winter ball. Bryce Harper hails from here.
..and forget about rain delays. It is the sunniest city in America with 85% sunshine year-round.
Now, I haven't seen the play in Texas but doesn't it get pretty steamy in Summer?
quote:Originally posted by Bum:
Without a doubt, San Diego, California. With its eternally beautiful weather.. rarely hot, rarely cold.. it is the best.
Having said that. Right here in Las Vegas is pretty good, too. Baseball is a pretty big sport in this town, with first-class facilities for youth with lights for night play. It cools down to average highs near 60 in Winter, but there is Winter ball. Bryce Harper hails from here.
..and forget about rain delays. It is the sunniest city in America with 85% sunshine year-round.
Now, I haven't seen the play in Texas but doesn't it get pretty steamy in Summer?
Thanks Bum, Vegas is one place we are considering. We already own a home there in Vegas. My wife and I lived there for about 8 years. However I didnt see a lot of teams registered in Usssa for the Las Vegas area.
LOL I love California but dont like that extra State Income tax LOL. The federal government gets enough already. Plus not sure I would like the earthquakes
You asked a question, however suggestions don't seem to fit your criteria.
I was just wondering, why did you ask?
I was just wondering, why did you ask?
quote:Originally posted by TPM:
You asked a question, however suggestions don't seem to fit your criteria.
I was just wondering, why did you ask?
My question was What are the best cities for year round baseball. The suggestions that most have given me dont answer the topic question. Even though I do appreciate some of the advice that wasnt what I was asking for in this thread.
I am looking for for insight to other year round baseball cities similar to Bums and I believe Cball. I would appreciate people sharing some pros and cons about youth baseball in the cities you suggest please.
Yet I received advice about moving, advice on how I should approach baseball with a 10 yr old, plus several other things not specifically related to the thread topic.
I believe several of you have a great deal of knowledge because you have been down this road with your kids. But your path even though it has worked out for you and maybe a few others doesnt mean its the correct path for everyone.
Again those of you answering the topic question seriously I appreciate it.
Check out Arizona. Baseball takes place all year on the best facilities you will find anywhere in the world and it gets better all the time. The coaching and instruction that is available is amazing. Even the summer is not so difficult once you get acclimated.
In addition, USSSA has a major presence here, and lots of home schooling is going on.
Best of luck.
In addition, USSSA has a major presence here, and lots of home schooling is going on.
Best of luck.
You've misinterpreted the advice several posters have provided. They're not saying the path their kids took is the right one for everyone. They're saying they perceive the path you've taken to this point and the path you're considering is one they've seen others take, and it's the wrong one. I believe considering relocating for 10U USSSA baseball is incredibly warped. It's the most warped idea I've come across on a youth baseball chat board. If your son was sixteen and a potential pro prospect, then relocating might make sense. But why anyone would want to relocate from a baseball hotbed over 10U baseball is beyond my logic.quote:I believe several of you have a great deal of knowledge because you have been down this road with your kids. But your path even though it has worked out for you and maybe a few others doesnt mean its the correct path for everyone.
RJM:
You might be right -- and for yourself, undoubtedly you are. OCM clearly dislikes Florida (as do I, by the way -- the humidity and bugs are intolerable). Some cannot deal with AZ summers, although I like them.
OCB can decide for himself. The remarkable thing is that after the other thread he even asked here. Either way, it is his business. And, who know, he might turn out to be the enlightened one. I know a Tournament Director here who was best avoided.
I doubt anyone ever moved because of him, but I would not have blamed them if the baseball was a big enough deal. I have seen plenty of people move because of Little League or school programs (both high school and lower).
By the way, I have seen lots and lots of people move because of hockey -- even at a very young age. And I have seen people ship their kids away from home for years at a time to pursue tennis opportunities. They might be right or wrong, but each family is different.
After getting a taste of AZ and with my family's love of baseball, I would have turned down major promotions if it had meant leaving here. Fortunately, that did not happen.
I just don't agree that OCB is as crazy as many here believe, and if he has the resources to do it, more power to him.
You might be right -- and for yourself, undoubtedly you are. OCM clearly dislikes Florida (as do I, by the way -- the humidity and bugs are intolerable). Some cannot deal with AZ summers, although I like them.
OCB can decide for himself. The remarkable thing is that after the other thread he even asked here. Either way, it is his business. And, who know, he might turn out to be the enlightened one. I know a Tournament Director here who was best avoided.
I doubt anyone ever moved because of him, but I would not have blamed them if the baseball was a big enough deal. I have seen plenty of people move because of Little League or school programs (both high school and lower).
By the way, I have seen lots and lots of people move because of hockey -- even at a very young age. And I have seen people ship their kids away from home for years at a time to pursue tennis opportunities. They might be right or wrong, but each family is different.
After getting a taste of AZ and with my family's love of baseball, I would have turned down major promotions if it had meant leaving here. Fortunately, that did not happen.
I just don't agree that OCB is as crazy as many here believe, and if he has the resources to do it, more power to him.
I know someone who shipped their kid off for tennis. At sixteen he broke his racket in half, handed it to his father, suggested two places he could put it (one was the trash) and never played competitively again. The kid didn't crack from competition. He cracked from knowing his tennis success was the most important thing to his father. This kid could have been a D1 tennis player. He was playing #1 singles as a high school freshman and was ranked. He was a cover boy on a statewide high school sports magazine as a freshman.
Some things don't add up. If he owned a house in Vegas as he says, wouldn't he know what Arizona is like ?
Lived there 6 years.
Lived there 6 years.
Arizona and Vegas are very different. Vegas is dryer and colder in the winter, especially. Arizona is hotter (and has much, much better facilities, more teams and far more coaching and instruction available. Both are very good).
RJM
I could give you lots of similar examples for lots of similar sports involving kids who never left home. I have no idea what OCM's boy wants or doesn't want, but I am not going to judge him by what I read here.
I could give you lots of similar examples for lots of similar sports involving kids who never left home. I have no idea what OCM's boy wants or doesn't want, but I am not going to judge him by what I read here.
Agreed but Arizona is a stones throw away. It is hard to believe he wouldn't know something about it.
Jemaz is under the impression that this guy really wants to know where his 10 yr old can play bb year round.
The rest of know that OCB will run but can't hide. The system is no different in AZ, or FL. You run into difficult people from Coast to Coast, you can learn to deal or move until you figure it out.
So to end this for the final time, here is your answer:
Phoenix AZ, Las Vegas NV, Cobb County, GA, and anywhere there is a large city with warm weather.
There OCB good luck!
The rest of know that OCB will run but can't hide. The system is no different in AZ, or FL. You run into difficult people from Coast to Coast, you can learn to deal or move until you figure it out.
So to end this for the final time, here is your answer:
Phoenix AZ, Las Vegas NV, Cobb County, GA, and anywhere there is a large city with warm weather.
There OCB good luck!
quote:Originally posted by BobbleheadDoll:
Some things don't add up. If he owned a house in Vegas as he says, wouldn't he know what Arizona is like ?
Lived there 6 years.
BHD you amaze me LOL. I am not looking for a geography lesson. I know what the weather is like for the most part in all those places. Jemaz seems to understand. Just because I lived in Vegas and have traveled through all those places doesnt mean I know what the baseball is like there.
What I dont know about these places are some of the things Jemaz has shared. He has given an opinion on facilities, coaching and the dominating organization for the area. Jemaz I have heard however that most of the facilities that are played in are softball fields is that true?
Beginning at 14 more and more of the games are played in the spring training and other similar facilities. Even some at 13 (especially in places such as Red Mountain, which I know won't mean anything to you).
The younger groups play frequently at a facility called Victory Lane and at the new Big League Dreams. Both of these could be described as softball fields since softball is often played at at least one and each has skinned infields. However, there are many other "baseball only" facilities that are used, so it is a mix. I don't know of any events of high school age (and even a little younger) that are played on fields that are ever used for softball.
The younger groups play frequently at a facility called Victory Lane and at the new Big League Dreams. Both of these could be described as softball fields since softball is often played at at least one and each has skinned infields. However, there are many other "baseball only" facilities that are used, so it is a mix. I don't know of any events of high school age (and even a little younger) that are played on fields that are ever used for softball.