A bit self-serving I suppose, but interesting nonetheless.
Scott Boras: MLB draft 'a mockery'
All kinds of conjecture as to whether or not the new CBA may have cost his advisee, Stanford's Mark Appel, a few million dollars?
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quote:Originally posted by daveccpa:
I have been told by a MLB player that agents don't get paid until they sign a major league contract. If so what is Boras whinning about? It didn't cost him anything.
If anything the new format helps older college players get paid for their skills versus giving an 18 year old kid a wad of cash who may or may not pan out.
quote:Originally posted by daveccpa:
I have been told by a MLB player that agents don't get paid until they sign a major league contract. If so what is Boras whinning about? It didn't cost him anything.
If anything the new format helps older college players get paid for their skills versus giving an 18 year old kid a wad of cash who may or may not pan out.
quote:Originally posted by VaRHPmom:
Any idea if the percentages of High School versus College players drafted were any different this year because of the change?
quote:Originally posted by Rvaughn:
If I have my facts straight, Appel was offered 6 million from the Astro's & he turned it down. The Astro's then said OK, we will take someone else. Appel ends up with the Pirates & will be lucky to get 2.5 Million. This is not a slot issue, this is a "my advisor is an idiot" issue.
quote:Originally posted by warningtrack:
Rumor has it the seniors going in rounds 6-10 are getting $1000 so the clubs can sign their top picks for over slot money. I agree BOF - smelly seems like a good word to describe things.
quote:To me, this is a sorry attempt at socialism in a sport that has bred itself on a free market since 1965 (even moreso post-Curt Flood).
quote:Originally posted by J H:
Without getting into too many details as to why, I am enormously opposed to the new draft format. To me, this is a sorry attempt at socialism in a sport that has bred itself on a free market since 1965 (even moreso post-Curt Flood). Salary caps, slotted draft bonuses, etc. are fine IMO because of obvious entertainment value in an even playing field amongst all participants. But this does not promote an even playing field. This promotes a dramatically skewed manipulation of an incredibly flawed economic process.
quote:Originally posted by BBoy400:
It does seem like the senior college players in rounds 6-10 are getting screwed if that is what the club is offering($1000). Is there any recourse? Can they sit out the season(although I am sure most would not want to do that) and sign as a free agent for more money at a late point? This is a sahme if these players get such little $$.
quote:Originally posted by justbaseball:quote:Originally posted by Rvaughn:
If I have my facts straight, Appel was offered 6 million from the Astro's & he turned it down. The Astro's then said OK, we will take someone else. Appel ends up with the Pirates & will be lucky to get 2.5 Million. This is not a slot issue, this is a "my advisor is an idiot" issue.
You might be right? A story I heard differently is that the Astros went to the top 3-5 guys and said, 'Ok, who will tak4 $4M?' First guy to raise his hand got it.
If the top guy was clear cut (Strasburg, Harper), the thought was that this would not have happened. With a number of guys in the mix for 'top guy,' it could happen...and did?
quote:Originally posted by TPM:
Why doesn't MLB set each slot for the first 10 rounds a monetary amount and help the lower market teams to pay for the talent they can't afford?
quote:Originally posted by 55mom:
TPM, raising the money the draftees get to actually live on sounds like a great idea. I understood the signing bonuses were to supplement the pay - that is by all accounts minuscule.
sounds like a case of "what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine"
Great information in the thread, thank you all
quote:Originally posted by J H:
TPM- 22
What's even more flawed is what you've mentioned with the fact that the MLBPA gets to dictate what the draftees are entitled to, regardless of the fact that they are not union members. Meanwhile, the MiLB players (also not MLBPA members directly) make peanuts as well. Greedy owners...
quote:Originally posted by J H:
TPM- I'm not opposed to a slotted draft allotment. I just don't like the way it is now.
The MiLB is a whole different animal. I wouldn't even know where to begin.
quote:Originally posted by warningtrack:
Rumor has it the seniors going in rounds 6-10 are getting $1000 so the clubs can sign their top picks for over slot money. I agree BOF - smelly seems like a good word to describe things.
quote:Originally posted by Bulldog 19:
Well all of those seniors who think they are "getting screwed" have a choice. They can try getting a "real job" that doesn't come with any signing bonus or contract...
quote:Originally posted by fillsfan:
Draftees are not major leaguers.
New hires at Fortune 500 companies don't get paid the same as 10 employees getting good results. I know they don't have a draft but players know that going in.
Get in the system and earn your keep. If you don't like the system don't play baseball. That's your choice.
IMO it's the agents who dislike this the most. Most draftees could care less. First rounders are being offered more money than they could earn in almost 10 years on the street. Either take the money they are offering or don't sign this time. I would think that most seniors are just happy to be drafted after not being drafted last year, so do they really care?
Drafts are necessary in sports to try to even the field. Without a draft you might have a ten team league, only the teams with enough money to compete, anda lot less draftees. Free market maybe but a lot less opportunities for most of us on this site.
quote:Originally posted by njbb:quote:Originally posted by warningtrack:
Rumor has it the seniors going in rounds 6-10 are getting $1000 so the clubs can sign their top picks for over slot money. I agree BOF - smelly seems like a good word to describe things.
Small market teams have been doing this for years to have the money for their top pick.