Boston College, Duke, Villanova

At this point, Boston College has the strongest baseball program of the three...despite its less-than-optimal climate.

Every player must decide whether to compete at the highest of levels of Div 1 Baseball.

The ACC is one of the highest of levels of competition of NCAA D1 Baseball. Within the ACC Baseball, there are two tiers of competition and most likely a 7-5 split.

Dad's with son's in college playing ACC Baseball in the top tier, have no clue what college life is like for those parents with son's in the ACC 2nd tier. Vice versa applies as well.

Player life is good for teams in the top tier of the ACC.

College life is grand for most baseball players in top D1 baseball teams.

Boston College, Duke, Va Tech, and MD are ACC colleges that will historically remain in the 2nd tier of the ACC. WF being a tweener Tier 1/Tier 2 ACC team, although had a great run in the early 90's.

The Top D1 Baseball Conference toggles between the ACC and SEC yearly. PAC-10 is a distant 3rd.

Regards,
Bear

Bear, why don't we let Boston College live in the ACC a little longer before you condem them to the "second" tier. There may be alot of kids who decide a college experience in Boston, probably the greatest college town in the USA, is worth the cooler climate.

I think Bears alma mater is also in the "second tier"

Hello !!!!

rt,
Someone asked a question and I think that Bear's reply (remember he is a Bear ), was pretty accurate regarding BC and Duke.
Schools don't join the ACC for baseball programs, it's all about FOOTBALL for BC and BASKETBALL for Duke.
And Boston by the way, is a great place to further your education.
As for BC, no offense to anyone, but in order to move up to the top tier in the ACC in baseball, by bringing in talent that can compete, they need to improve facilities. Same for Duke. JMO.

Keep this in mind as well.

If you go to BC, Duke, VT or MD - and play baseball - the first thing they do when you arrive on campus is bring you into the trainers room and brand you with a red-hot cattle-iron.

It says "Tier 2 - ACC" - and they do it right in the middle of your back.

Sort of like the Scarlet Letter.

Its a sacrifice - but sometimes you just gotta go for it.

quote:

The Top D1 Baseball Conference toggles between the ACC and SEC yearly. PAC-10 is a distant 3rd.

WHAT????

WHO WON THE COLLEGE WORLD SERIES LAST YEAR???

PAC 10 is the BEST

Can you imagine - being an athlete - and actually believing what the bystanders say?

Can you imagine - being an athlete - in any sport - and believing you are a second tier player?

Or being an accountant or lawyer and believing you are a second tier accountant or lawyer.

Or being a doctor - or iron worker - or wife - or husband - and actually believing some bystander - some sideline commentator - about being second tier in anything.

If you ever believe you are 2nd tier - going into any endeavor in life - you will ultimately wind up in the scrap heap.

IMO.

You should never listen to this nonsense.
And you should laugh in their face if they ever say it to you in person.

Remember - Sideline commentators aint in the game. That is why they are on the sidelines.

iitg,
Sorry I didn't mean to offend anyone.

My son's bf chose Duke over another school in another conference (degree would have been just as prestigious) but his dad wanted him to play in the ACC. Needless to say, he was very frustrated, he went more for baseball than the Duke degree. He is no longer at the school, there are circumstances why he is not there anymore, but regardless, the program just didn't live up to what he thought it would be.
Sometimes parents and players have expectations that because a school is in a specific conference, it may be the better choice over other schools in other conferences. It's all in what a player wants out of the experience.
JMO.

I have a close friend whose 2007 son just shook hands with BC, awaiting Nov. 1 to make it official. They are ecstatic.

The word they got was that BC had to promise to upgrade their facilities when they entered the ACC. It's all on the drawing board. (No word on whether it includes a dome and maybe some radiators.)

This player has been told he will play OF, maybe 1B, also being looked at as a prospective LHP. And they aren't blowing smoke; they backed up the talk with a decent % scholly.

BC practices indoors in the preseason and tries to travel south most of the early season, postponing home games until things thaw out a bit. I would still suggest some thermal underwear and maybe some of those battery-powered socks.

Duke had a local player there as a freshman in 2005. After that year, they went the way of so many who have seen their beloved "good old boy" coaches retire, then replaced them with young hot shots. The new guy made no bones about wanting to win. The first sign of this was a major increase in the players' fall commitments. Our local boy gave up baseball because he considered himself a student first and a baseball player second, and he thought those priorities were being threatened.

2006 was not a miracle turnaround year for Duke and I wouldn't look for them to get well real real soon. Branded or not, they're a long way from challenging for a division title.

TPM- Are you saying Duke doesn't take baseball nearly as serious as the other schools in the ACC do? Obviously they finish in the cellar pretty consistently, but that doesn't mean baseball is a joke on and off campus at Duke, does it?

curious if any of your sons attended the vu prospect camp this month?

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Originally posted by cubs2828:
TPM- Are you saying Duke doesn't take baseball nearly as serious as the other schools in the ACC do? Obviously they finish in the cellar pretty consistently, but that doesn't mean baseball is a joke on and off campus at Duke, does it?

Did I say it was a joke, please direct me to where I said that.
Duke is a fine school, better known for it's education than sports. I am thinking more, and it has been said here before, I see Duke more of an IVY than ACC. For sports.

Marina- I've attended the Villanova camps and they are very well run. I know one of my teammates had not really been seen by them and signed up on his own. He performed well, and was committed within the week.

TPM- I was asking, I wasn't saying you implied that. My apologies, I phrased the question wrong. I was genuinely asking if thats realistically how it is...

cubs,
I am sorry , you have a pm.

I grew up in Durham and live a short distance from the campus now. What puzzles me about Duke is they do not recruit local talent. We have three top level players in our program right now that are getting letters calls etc from just about every program in the ACC and others as well. Not one call to the coaches not one questionaire not one letter from Duke. And they are aware of these players because I saw Duke at the WWBA at East Cobb where all three of these players played and all three play for outstanding teams. I dont know what the deal is but they do not recruit NC players. The fact is the facilities are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy behind. I know they have a new coach and I hope that he turns it around and the school itself makes a commitment to turn it around. We will see.

By the way does anyone here have any experiences with the Citadel program?

TPM,

You certainly didnt offend me, and my post wasnt directed to anyone specific. (Well maybe a little to Bear - LOL).

Just a philosophy I guess.

I just never view anything I am involved in as second tier - except maybe a really lousy Italian meal.