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Initial thought, I think Bridgewater is one school I would think twice about sending my kid to. I'm all for winning and playing hard, but 57 runs in in 6 batting innings is an issue in my book. There is no reason to rub the another teams nose in it.

TR, this is your neck of the woods, any insight?
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I personally don't have an issue with this unless the winning coach continued to have his team steal bases, bunt, run bases other than station to station, etc.-- after the game was obviously won. You can't just tell your team to make outs on purpose. It disrespects the other team. Conversely, I doubt the losing team wanted to pack it in and give up either.

Short story...5 or so years ago my son's team moved up to a higher level in the league and was facing the toughest team. They were pounding us and at one point the visiting coach asked my son's coach if he just wanted to quit. Our coach told him where he could stick it. They then proceeded to steal, bunt, bat opposite handed, etc--basically showing us up. We eventually got ripped 32-1. To top it off, they celebrated like they won the World series after the final out. Needless to say it was demoralizing to say the least. The next year, when we played them again, the guys had that thrashing still fresh in their minds, and though the other team was still the better team, we pulled a major upset and beat them 5-3. Then we had our chance to celebrate like it was the World Series. Instead we shook their hands and told them nice game, as if it were just another game. We've played them pretty evenly ever since.
JMO,
I am with woody on this one.
I checked the box score I don't see where the Bridgewater coach asked for bunts, stealing, etc, What were they supposed to do? Where did he rub it in the other team's face.

Personally, the Newbury coach should have conceded after 5 innings, which is an official game.
In fastpitch softball, we used to get out of an endless inning (and mind-numbing blowouts) by having our girls leave base early and cueing the umps. It's a discreet out with no stats affected, and if done carefully the other team doesn't even know whats going on.
I'm not aware of any such play in baseball, but maybe someone is. It sure would be handy to have a nice, dignified way of calling off the dogs.
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Bridgewater State is a college that prepares students to be school teachers

a) well, they sure did some teachin' that day
or
b) why didn't they score that game on a "curve" scale
or
c) the payback will happen someday when they get the opponent/player's kids in their class
or
d) more payback when those opponents-now-parents are voting on the school levies

Wink
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As they say in "government," with all due respect to my esteemed posters, I do think this result could have been unnecessary. Looking at the boxscore, Bridgewater never substituted for the 2-3-4 hitters. Those 3 combined for 19 hits, 20 runs and 26 RBI's getting 8 AB's in the game.
I guess we could speculate they didn't have any more players. But why then substitute up and down the lineup, but not 2-4. In the few situations I have seen things similar, but never like this occur, the first players out of the game were the 2-4 hitters.
I am really disturbed by this whole thing. Don't get me wrong, I have lived on both sides of the 20-0 game and I really think that is reasonable if the teams are mismatched or one is just having a very bad or good game.

That being said, I am sure that Newbury had no major expectations in their first year out, their schedule is limited, and with fifteen on the roster I know that they knew what they were getting into. The Bridgewater roster has ten players on it that did not play in that game (I am sure there are injuries but probably not 10).

In every league and every sport there seems to be that mismatched team and quality coaches take that opportunity to play unseasoned players and work on fundamentals in game situations. Once the key players have set the tone of the game, key players have had the opportunity to increase their stats, and winning is inevitable, there is no reason to humiliate or demoralize their opponents. I have been to many a hockey game where the varsity starters were limited to one period and the younger players had more playing time which helped to develope their skills and provided a closer score.

Final observations - I noticed on the Bridgewater site there are no press releases about this game. I can guarantee that the Bridgewater fans, the administration, and the players themselves are probably more than a little embarrassed from this display. I am curious to see how the rest of their season goes.
MLB teams play D3 teams for Spring training and have competitive games. If those MLB teams brought out their "A" game it would be a blowout. Why don't they? Because they use these games for getting looks at other players, extra pt, pitchers some innings, defensive practice, and they are giving these small colleges the opportunity. None of those Bridgewater players who had 5 or more hits should have played an inning unless the game was in doubt at the end. I'm sure there were guys on the bench who will start few games in their college careers and never get 5 abs a game who had to sit and watch the coach keep those other guys in all game. That coaches attitude would make it hard for me to come to practice. Bridgewater used the game to pad stats and break records , bottom line. IMHO, anyone who feels this was a good win, and Bridgewater played the game with a "team concept" is missing something.
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infielddad,
Good points, did Bridgewater go into the game using their ace? I see the reliever had no innings before that game? Could he have given up innings.
Bridgewater went into the game with a 7-6 record (don't quote me on that) not playing since April 1. If they were throwing their ace, the guy needed work, desperately. Everyone needed work, JMO.
I don't feel this was by any means a good win, I don't think anyone feels that way.
I still stand by my original post, the Newbury coach could have stopped the game a five full.
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I still stand by my original post, the Newbury coach could have stopped the game a five full.

So Bridgewaters coaches thinking is that unless you QUIT I'm going to bury your arse with my studs. That's great coaching Roll Eyes. And, what kind of quality work are starters getting in a game like that, they were winning by 22 after 2 innings. There is no excuse and there is no justification.

If his studs needed work they were better off getting it in an inter-squad scrimmage and letting non-starters get a game in.

A competitor does not quit, and on the other side a good coach will understand when he is dominating an opponent and will make adjustments. That should have been seen during the first inning.
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2x thoughts:

1.) Bridgewater State (known locally as BS) lists 30 players on their roster, so its clear some other players could have filled the 2-3-4 hitters places after the first two innings (and 20 runs).

2.) I guess I'm just old school, but after the first 3x dozen runs, if I were pitching for Newbury, I'd have used the inside part of the plate. The waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay inside part.
Eventually, the umps would have had to stop it.

HaverDad/Brussels
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Originally posted by Novice Dad:
heres a different perspective, I'd be PO'd if I was Bridgewater, that Newbury wasted my time when I could have scheduled another team that would be useful.


Do you honestly think that Bridgewater didn't know exactly what it was doing when it agreed to schedule a first year program from a small school?
Do you honestly think that Bridgwater thought that this small school would field anything remotely resembling a competitive team in its first year? I'd like to think that they scheduled the game in order to help Newbury get their program off the ground, however it is pretty obvious that the coach just saw an opportunity to pad stats. We won't be looking at that school this Summer, that's for sure.

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