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Originally posted by Tx-Husker:
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Oklahoma, Florida, Texas, USC


Agree. Then Florida would beat Texas, and Oklahoma would be USC...and we end up at the same spot, Fla vs OU. So see, we don't need no stinkin playoff system. The BCS and University Presidents know what we need and will take care of us.


For some reason my sarcasm detector went off but not sure why.......... Big Grin

I would go

OU over PSU
FL over TT
Utah over Texas (There has to be an upset somewhere and I just don't like Texas for some reason)
USC over Alabama
Beezer...I'm of the opinion USC a little over rated. Clearly they are good, but they have not played anyone with the team speed of OU or Florida this year. That would neutralize, a little, that defense of SC's. SC's certainly no scoring machine on offense. Matchup wise, they just don't match up as well against FLA or OU as they would against say, Texas (but I'm not sure SC could score much on Texas).
Poll Politics...

No wonder he got fired. Tyrone Willingham, on his way out at Washington, had Missouri bizarrely ranked, placing them at 11th despite four losses. He has them just a spot below Texas Tech and six spots ahead of an Oklahoma State team that beat them in Columbia.

Still a goofball. Howard Schnellenberger apparently doesn’t buy all the hype about Southern Cal’s defense. The Florida Atlantic coach has USC at No. 8.

Still an idiot. Despite Oklahoma’s dominating stretch run, UCLA coach Rick Neuheisel ranked the Sooners fourth, putting Texas, Florida and USC ahead of OU.

He politics non-stop but still casts a reasonable vote. Some have criticized Mack Brown for campaigning too much for his Texas team. But it’s hard to say he wasn’t a gentleman on his ballot. The UT coach gave the top spot to Florida, putting his team second and Oklahoma third.

What...Utah ahead of SC? Florida coach Urban Meyer put his team at the top, then Oklahoma, Alabama, Texas and Utah — a nod to his former team. Utah head coach Kyle Whittingham also ranked his Utes fifth.
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Originally posted by PGStaff:
Both Penn State and USC played Ohio State and Oregon State this year.

Using B C S logic and my computer, Penn State should be favored to beat USC in the Rose Bowl by 12 points. Anyone want to bet? Smile


Sure. Based on you fancy, schmancy computer, I'll take SC and 10 points. If I win, Lil Beezer goes to a PG showcase free. You win, he goes full price, thanks Mr. Ford for the invite and hands him an ice cold soda. Wink
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Originally posted by Tx-Husker:
Beezer...I'm of the opinion USC a little over rated. Clearly they are good, but they have not played anyone with the team speed of OU or Florida this year. That would neutralize, a little, that defense of SC's. SC's certainly no scoring machine on offense. Matchup wise, they just don't match up as well against FLA or OU as they would against say, Texas (but I'm not sure SC could score much on Texas).


Interesting points there Tex. But you seem to be off in a couple kinda key areas.

  • They are part of the Pac 10 which is known to have teams loaded with speed. The Pac 10 may be down this year but they're not slow

  • The last time I recall USC being referred to as "over rated" they faced Oklahoma. This year's OU is WAY better though and I think it would be a good game.

  • They may not light up the scoreboard vs Texas, Oklahoma or Florida but I don't think any of them have faced a defense the likes of USC's either.


EDIT - they were "over rated" against Texas and that ESPN droolfest flat out drove me crazy!!! It reminded me of the old SNL Ditka ("Da Bears") skits.
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Tx-Husker:
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What...Utah ahead of SC? Florida coach Urban Meyer put his team at the top, then Oklahoma, Alabama, Texas and Utah — a nod to his former team. Utah head coach Kyle Whittingham also ranked his Utes fifth.


12-0, MWC Champions, 15th in the nation in offense, and they have King Louis!

Why wouldn't Urban and Kyle rank the Utes ahead of USC? Big Grin
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Why wouldn't Urban and Kyle rank the Utes ahead of USC?


If USC played Utah in a bowl game, I would spot Utah 21 points and USC would still win comfortably. I've watched Utah...no offense...just not in the same league as the top handful. They are in the same category as TCU...nice club, but how did they do against one of the top handful (OU).

Beezer...one thing you can count on USC for almost every year is to lose to a clearly inferior team in Pac 10 somewhere along the way....a conference not even close to on par with the Big 12 and SEC. I say overrated from a standpoint of people mentioning them in the same breath as Texas, Florida and Oklahoma.
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If USC played Utah in a bowl game, I would spot Utah 21 points and USC would still win comfortably.


You're very likely right. And USC may well win 10 out of 10 times. (And OU may well win the next 9, or 900, against Boise State.) However, there are those times...

That's why I'll be cheering for the Utes when they take on 'Bama. The odds are against them...and 'Bama could just run them off the field...but...there are those times...
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Originally posted by Tx-Husker:
I say overrated from a standpoint of people mentioning them in the same breath as Texas, Florida and Oklahoma.


Are you talking about this year or historically? If you mean historically Florida has won the national championship twice, Texas - 4, Oklahoma - 7. USC? 10 times.

Or if you meant this year, yes their SOS is weak, yes they lost focus (again) and got beat by a vastly inferior team. But I still think they'd give Texas, Florida and Oklahoma a good game.
It's funny how Carroll's personality and energy is such a great fit for college, but didn't work at all in the NFL. But then you watch the Cowboys last night...who are playing for their playoff lives...who have no life, energy or sense of urgency at all.

Seems like the Cowboys need exactly what Carroll brings to the table. But then it also seems that what Carroll brings doesn't last a whole season...thus the flat point against an inferior team and the blemish USC has had.
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Originally posted by Tx-Husker:
It's funny how Carroll's personality and energy is such a great fit for college, but didn't work at all in the NFL. But then you watch the Cowboys last night...who are playing for their playoff lives...who have no life, energy or sense of urgency at all.

Seems like the Cowboys need exactly what Carroll brings to the table. But then it also seems that what Carroll brings doesn't last a whole season...thus the flat point against an inferior team and the blemish USC has had.


I didn't see the game but if they played without any life or energy then TO is now 3 for 3 in destroying teams.

Even Pete Carroll cannot fix TO.
I'm no TO fan...really indifferent about him. It's hard to understand how an offense can be so in sync early in the year and so out of sync late. Can't help but think TO has something to do with that.

I can tell you I'm not the Jason Garrett fan I was at the start of the year. He hasn't done anything to change the office to kick it into gear. And hearing Ray Lewis talk about how simplistic the Cowboys offense is...and then hear him calling out the Cowboys play during the game...sure makes it seem to simple to figure out.

Cowboys are like the Yankees...too many over paid guys that all think they are better than they are. Only the Cowboys have a bad coach on top of it.

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