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 Can you train for speed? My son is a 2022 Two-way player that is pretty frustrated right now. He’s 6 foot tall, weighs 160 pounds and his measurables are pretty good. He throws 81 off the mound and his exit velocity is in the upper 80s. So we got a decent trajectory. His goal is to play Division I baseball but his challenge is he can’t seem to improve his 60 time.  He’s been sitting between 7.65-7.80 for the last 2 years even though he  has been doing speed and strength weightlifting at the local Academy for 18 months. My son is starting to talk about becoming a pitcher only even though I think that’s way too early. 

 

Are there things he could be doing or what have others done to improve 60 time?

 

Shane

Last edited by MuskyShane
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This won’t answer your question, but if he wants to play D1, doing so as a 2-way will be difficult, at best.  At some point he may want to make a choice so he can focus on developing his skills necessary to get to the next level.

That may be improving his 60 time for a position player, or his velocity on the mound.  Not sure how much you can improve a 7.65-7.80, and his velocity is very good for a 2022.  Maybe those stats are telling you where to go...

A player can train to improve speed. But I’ve never seen anyone go from slow to fast. My son trained at Velocity (national chain) specifically targeting running the sixty. It got him from 6.8 to 6.6. They worked on his off the mark and running form.

I did question if it was their training or just improved coordination and filling out after growing from 5’4” 120 to 5’11” 135 to 6’ 160 from point A to one year to two years. He did the training after growing to 5’11” 135.  

I saw kids train from 7.8 to 7.2. But they were 200+ pound kids who could mash. Unless a kid is a masher he better get under 7.0

Last edited by RJM

When I operated the Area Code games, during one of our tryouts at Fresno State I invited a Track Coach to "work" with the tryout players. The Scouts timed the players at 9 am in the 60 yard, then after 40 minutes of instruction, we timed again. There was a 5% improvement for the majority of players. Find a track coach and "listen and learn"! Ask questions.

Bob

Yes, you can train for speed (which is sort of a strange question since you say he already is  ).  But you can only attain what is possible with the athlete's given genetics.  You say he is a 2022.  How close to physical maturation is he?  For most that age, there is still quite a bit of growth and change to come.  You can't rush that.  Some mature early and may be closer to the body they will be working with.  I rarely get a freshman come in with really good 60 times.  Most improve those times quite a bit through HS years.  On the other hand, you can usually see who the burners and otherwise will be that first year.  If your son still has a good deal of growth projection, he can still improve quite a bit with his speed and won't have to reach anything close to sub 7 as a big guy (just saw RJM's post - and yes, he will have to be a masher).  But he will have to keep working hard on that aspect if D1 position player remains part of the dream.  Even if the dream goal is adjusted to other levels, that work will be invaluable.

That said, almost everyone is a 2-way as a freshman in HS.  Generally, it's too early to make that decision of PO unless both highly competitive HS and travel are both pushing hard in that direction.

Last edited by cabbagedad

It took 4 years for my 2018 to reduce his public PG time of 7.43 to a 6.8 during his incoming Sr summer.  Lots of work: kid was still growing, added strength in the right places, improved hip flexibility, trained for speed (went through a lot of instructors to find someone that knew what they  were talking about). Success for your 2022 could be getting down to a 7.1 vs a 6.8.  But it can be done.

My son found this guy online and has been working his speed program:

http://owntheoffseason.com/how...mp;mc_eid=0b2aa8f122

Son really likes the program and is feeling faster. His goal is 6.5.  He's got the work ethic and environment to train.  We shall see.

 

Last edited by Gov

I believe that speed training is mostly about cleaning up technique which will help a person run more efficiently and ultimately, faster.

You can also work on and develop more explosion, which should help with your starts. 

As strength increases, that should also help your turnover (kicking into the final gear) and maintain top speed for a longer period. 

It can be done.  My son was always among the faster kids, but in the last two years has gone from about a 7.0 to a 6.6, (while gaining 40 lbs).  He has worked some with a trainer, but mostly on his own.  Lots of lifting (squats, lunges, reverse lunges), lots of form running, and hours of sprinting up and down a hill.

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