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i've noticed a few ratings scores have been chAnged to a higher score for a particular showcase I followed. How often does that happen and why?  Do they make changes on their own or do parents call asking for  numbers to be checked? Curious because my son got good score but few w higher scores had lower numbers/stats. I didnt wAnt to be a PITA parent and complain. Should i just let it go? Do the ratings really matter?  This is all new to us. Thanks
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My son participated in his first PG showcase this summer.  I thought most of the ratings including my son were pretty close to where they should be. 

 

I personally wouldn't mess with it.  In our case my son is a 2016 so we are using to look at where he needs to improve and where to begin our school search.  I don't look at it as the end all be all but a one more tool in the box to use.

 

PG rating helps, but I have seen it both ways with the older boys in our summer travel team.  High ratings and no deal done yeat and conversely a lower rating and all wrapped up. 

I've never seen a rating changed from one event.

 

I have seen a player who had a rating from an earlier event improve on that at a later event.  And at the top of the player's PG profile page, it will show the highest grade ever received.  Is that what you're talking about?

 

As to commitments -- understand that ratings are all about talents and skills and projectability.  Commitments are going to turn on those factors to a great extent, of course, but also on factors that no showcase could ever measure.  Those other factors might include academic record, disciplinary record, financial wherewithal, whether the player is a "gamer" or a "grinder" or perhaps not so much, and whether the player's targeted schools maybe don't have a big need at his particular position in his particular class, forcing him to come to grips with whether he has to start looking at Plan B options.

 

Another factor can be where a player stacks up for the pro draft.  Many colleges shy away from players who might tie up a lot of their scholarship budget but then never show up to school.  Other colleges seem to have no difficulty signing those guys.  To each his own.

Originally Posted by playball2011:
i've noticed a few ratings scores have been chAnged to a higher score for a particular showcase I followed. How often does that happen and why?  Do they make changes on their own or do parents call asking for  numbers to be checked? Curious because my son got good score but few w higher scores had lower numbers/stats. I didnt wAnt to be a PITA parent and complain. Should i just let it go? Do the ratings really matter?  This is all new to us. Thanks

How often does that happen and why?  I've never seen it, but I'm only paying attention to my kid and a few other locals (small sample).

 

Do they make changes on their own or do parents call asking for  numbers to be checked?  I know PG encourages the reporting of actual mistakes and omissions, but I can't speak to this issue.

 

I didn't want to be a PITA parent and complain.  Good decision.

 

Should i just let it go?  Yes.

 

Do the ratings really matter?  Yes, but I feel confident in saying that this abnormality will have zero impact on your son's recruiting experience.

 

Doesn't happen very often, but we do make mistakes at times.  When a mistake is made we try to correct it.  We have no problem with parents contacting us if they believe a mistake was made.  Sometimes the player's coach will contact us.  However, seldom do we change anything.  Most mistakes are discovered by our own people. This is suppose to happen before the grade is posted, but once in awhile we miss.

 

The goal is always to be as fair as possible to the player and at the same time being as honest as possible. People often ask why they never see players with a 2 or 3 grade. I think the reason is because kids that would grade that low, have no reason to attend and they don't.  Besides, the once in a great while we see a player that grades that low, we don't post it.  Some might say that is not totally honest, but we feel it's the polite way of doing it.

 

Last thing, sometimes people see the numbers and compare one player's grade to another.  The numbers, running time, velocity, pop times, etc., are only part of the over all grade.  Example... Is a 1.79 pop time with cheating good? Yes, very good, but might not be as good as a 1.89 that didn't cheat a bit.  One shortstop could throw 90mph across the infield while another shortstop threw 85mph. The numbers say the 90mph is the much better arm. However our notes show that the 90mph kid is using unnatural actions to reach that velocity while the 85mph kid is throwing with good shortstop actions.  It's possible our people could grade the 85mph kid higher.  Of course, once in awhile you see the unusual and it really stands out. Carlos Correa with normal shortstop actions threw 97mph across the infield at a PG Showcase. We don't have a grade high enough for that! So he ends up being tied with many other 10 grade arms even though his is better.  Guess him being the first pick of the draft helped sort some of that out.

 

The day is coming when we will be providing a lot more numbers, spin rates, 30 times, and all kinds of things.  Technology is getting very sophisticated and some of the leaders in this field want to work with PG.  Every MLB club has shown great interest in having the numbers this technology can produce.  The radar gun and stop watch will become secondary means of scouting. Still very important, but just partial information. This technology is already being used at MLB stadiums and many minor league parks. Soon we plan to use it in many amateur events.

Originally Posted by PGStaff:

The day is coming when we will be providing a lot more numbers, spin rates, 30 times, and all kinds of things.  Technology is getting very sophisticated and some of the leaders in this field want to work with PG.  Every MLB club has shown great interest in having the numbers this technology can produce.  The radar gun and stop watch will become secondary means of scouting. Still very important, but just partial information. This technology is already being used at MLB stadiums and many minor league parks. Soon we plan to use it in many amateur events.


@ PG Staff , I think that these measures would be a great addition to your evaluation process. How soon would this be implemented?

 

@ Playball2011, From what I have observed when my son was still in HS, PG ratings normally go up with observed improvement after attending a few showcases.  Does not really change with events. However, national or state rankings may go up with inclusion in certain events like the Area Codes, good to great performances in National PG events. 

 

Best to your son playball2011! Just tell your son to just keep playing and practicing hard and someone will notice. Everything will fall into place to what he puts in in this journey. 

Try to resist the temptation to get too wound up over ratings. Because of the care that they take in trying to make the rating a fair assessment (see above), PG's rating is widely regarded as a credible, valid indicator. However, it's simply that: an indicator to be considered along with a lot of other information gathered by any scout or recruiter who takes an interest in your son. 

 

Always keep in mind that professional scouts and college recruiters tend to be pretty confident of their ability to recognize talented kids who would make a positive contribution to their organization or program. They have to be in order to do what they do successfully.

 

Their own eyes and judgment are considered the most critical tools among all available to them; and, no decision of significance is going to be made without seeing a player directly ...often, on more than one occasion. The impression made on those occasions will mean much more than any other inputs available to them; regardless of how credible or valid.

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