wuts the best way to quit dip and/or chew. Has anyone tried the smokey mountain non tobacco snuff besides the wintergreen. I m almost 18 and am trying to quit.
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Perhaps the nicotine patch that smokers use could be helpful ... I was a smoker for 40 years and the patch worked for me, and I became a non-smoker after just 8 weeks (am now at 10 1/2 months since my last ciggy 
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I would think that using the strongest patch to start would help limit the withdrawal from nicotine that you have become addicted to having on a regular basis. I felt that the patch benefited me because I wasn't waiting for the "urge" to replace the cigarette with gum or a lozenge and it kept me from putting something in my mouth as a substitute for the cigarettes. Changing the behaviors is half or 3/4 of the battle for most of us ... we know someone who uses dip and tried to quit without reducing the nicotine urges and he was not able to stay off the dip for more than 2 months.
Just a thought ...
) I would think that using the strongest patch to start would help limit the withdrawal from nicotine that you have become addicted to having on a regular basis. I felt that the patch benefited me because I wasn't waiting for the "urge" to replace the cigarette with gum or a lozenge and it kept me from putting something in my mouth as a substitute for the cigarettes. Changing the behaviors is half or 3/4 of the battle for most of us ... we know someone who uses dip and tried to quit without reducing the nicotine urges and he was not able to stay off the dip for more than 2 months.
Just a thought ...
Good advice FBM. I am also a reformed smoker who has been smoke free since June. Problem is the weight gain which I am battling now.
My suggestion is go see your doctor. Apparently there is a natural and a physical depression associated with getting off of nicotine. Thus, products such as Wellbutrine (sp) can help you kick the habit plus fight the depressive aspects of kicking the habit.
My suggestion is go see your doctor. Apparently there is a natural and a physical depression associated with getting off of nicotine. Thus, products such as Wellbutrine (sp) can help you kick the habit plus fight the depressive aspects of kicking the habit.
My best wishes to you Clevelanddad. It will be worth the fight down the road for you.
Trickdaddy, I agree that seeing a doctor is a great first step toward quitting. Let a professional tell you what steps to take and what medications will help you.
I have a very informative link for you to read:
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/content/PED_10_13X_Qu...asp?sitearea=&level=
Lots of information here. I'm a cancer survivor, and love to hear when a young man like yourself makes the decision to leave tobacco behind. Good luck.
Trickdaddy, I agree that seeing a doctor is a great first step toward quitting. Let a professional tell you what steps to take and what medications will help you.
I have a very informative link for you to read:
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/content/PED_10_13X_Qu...asp?sitearea=&level=
Lots of information here. I'm a cancer survivor, and love to hear when a young man like yourself makes the decision to leave tobacco behind. Good luck.
My best wishes right back at you Baseballdad1228
My thoughts and prayers go out to you and the many others who are battling that terrible disease. From one of my favorite movies - "Live long and prosper"
My thoughts and prayers go out to you and the many others who are battling that terrible disease. From one of my favorite movies - "Live long and prosper"
Way to go FBM and CD!
Quitting tobacco is tough.....but well worth the effort. Good luck to you!
Quitting tobacco is tough.....but well worth the effort. Good luck to you!
I smoked for over 30 years and stopped cold turkey--I found that was the only way for me--make up my mind and do it--it becomes mind over matter
Ditto to what luvbb just said!!
WAY TO GO, FBM AND CD (and TR and 1228, too)!!
I have never smoked, but my entire immediate family all have, to the health detriment of every single one of them. Some have quit, one is trying (via the patch) now, and some are simply hopeless. I truly admire anyone who kicks the habit, because nicotine is apparently even more addictive than most of the recognized "nasty" drugs.
Continued success with all of your endeavors!
WAY TO GO, FBM AND CD (and TR and 1228, too)!!
I have never smoked, but my entire immediate family all have, to the health detriment of every single one of them. Some have quit, one is trying (via the patch) now, and some are simply hopeless. I truly admire anyone who kicks the habit, because nicotine is apparently even more addictive than most of the recognized "nasty" drugs. Continued success with all of your endeavors!
PAmom ...
I was hoping you would notice since you did a good job of sharing your feelings with me about the nasty habit a while back, emphasizing the health risks (which I was aware of "for others" but not myself). It took one scare which proved nothing, and it was hard to give up the habit but I feel (and smell) so much better. However, I must say that it sounds like ClevelandDad and I have suffered one of the side effects ... weight gain. Oh well, my doctor seems less concerned about that than the smoking.
TR ...
Congrats for doing it cold turkey. My husband succeeded with that approach many years ago, but I tried that several times in the past to no avail.
ClevelandDad ...
Since I suffer from clinical depression, I was already on Welbutrin so that helped I am sure. It amazed me that I actually cried when I told my husband I was quitting ... felt like I was giving up a part of me ... albeit a nasty part ... because it had been a part of my life for 40 years (no, I did NOT start when I was 5). But I am sure you are feeling as good now as I am and it was well worth the struggles of quitting.
BBD1228 ...
I hope that you are feeling much better and am thankful for your survival.
TrickDaddy ...
Good luck on your efforts. The idea of going to a doctor is a valuable suggestion ... hadn't passed my thoughts tho I conferred with my doctor when I quit. Please let us know how you are doing with this effort ... you can do it and now is the best time before you get so addicted that you feel trapped.
I was hoping you would notice since you did a good job of sharing your feelings with me about the nasty habit a while back, emphasizing the health risks (which I was aware of "for others" but not myself). It took one scare which proved nothing, and it was hard to give up the habit but I feel (and smell) so much better. However, I must say that it sounds like ClevelandDad and I have suffered one of the side effects ... weight gain. Oh well, my doctor seems less concerned about that than the smoking.
TR ...
Congrats for doing it cold turkey. My husband succeeded with that approach many years ago, but I tried that several times in the past to no avail.
ClevelandDad ...
Since I suffer from clinical depression, I was already on Welbutrin so that helped I am sure. It amazed me that I actually cried when I told my husband I was quitting ... felt like I was giving up a part of me ... albeit a nasty part ... because it had been a part of my life for 40 years (no, I did NOT start when I was 5). But I am sure you are feeling as good now as I am and it was well worth the struggles of quitting.
BBD1228 ...
I hope that you are feeling much better and am thankful for your survival.
TrickDaddy ...
Good luck on your efforts. The idea of going to a doctor is a valuable suggestion ... hadn't passed my thoughts tho I conferred with my doctor when I quit. Please let us know how you are doing with this effort ... you can do it and now is the best time before you get so addicted that you feel trapped.
I"m with TR on this one. Same story but far fewer years
CD--I'm still battling the weight gain 20 years later. I hope you have better luck!!!
CD--I'm still battling the weight gain 20 years later. I hope you have better luck!!!
Mary Ann---
I DID notice and remember sharing about my Mom. Unfortunately, she is the "hopeless" one, and it literally kills me to see what the habit has done to her. She has tried, but is literally a slave to nicotine. And it will kill her. I am ecstatic that you've conquered its hold on you. One thing at a time. We're ALL battling the insidious weight creep...smokers or not. Kudos to you!!
I DID notice and remember sharing about my Mom. Unfortunately, she is the "hopeless" one, and it literally kills me to see what the habit has done to her. She has tried, but is literally a slave to nicotine. And it will kill her. I am ecstatic that you've conquered its hold on you. One thing at a time. We're ALL battling the insidious weight creep...smokers or not. Kudos to you!!
Trickdaddy,
Quitting was one of the easiest things I ever did and one of the most rewarding. It took me one day to quit after 35 years of doing everything but mainlining nicotine. Here's the way I approached it. I looked at myself in the mirror and asked myself if I was such a weak individual that I needed a crutch or a support group to help me do something as simple as not putting something in my mouth. I woke up the next day feeling good! I knew I had just kicked the a$$ of the meanest dude in town!
Fungo
Quitting was one of the easiest things I ever did and one of the most rewarding. It took me one day to quit after 35 years of doing everything but mainlining nicotine. Here's the way I approached it. I looked at myself in the mirror and asked myself if I was such a weak individual that I needed a crutch or a support group to help me do something as simple as not putting something in my mouth. I woke up the next day feeling good! I knew I had just kicked the a$$ of the meanest dude in town!
Fungo
CD, I'm told that weight gain equals about 1 pound per year smoked. My dad smoked for 35 years and quit cold turkey because he just got tired of all the coughing. He gained 35 pounds, but has dropped it in the 25 years since he quit (now 82). I never smoked but seem to have added the 35 pounds anyway 
I have told everyone that mentions quitting smoking the same thing: "I have met a lot of people that have quit smoking and not a single one of them is sorry they quit."
I have told everyone that mentions quitting smoking the same thing: "I have met a lot of people that have quit smoking and not a single one of them is sorry they quit."
jaxnbulldog ...
That's 40 for me ... I haven't gained that much but a lot more than I had hoped. Looks like it is time for a typical new year resolution 
That's 40 for me ... I haven't gained that much but a lot more than I had hoped. Looks like it is time for a typical new year resolution
Thanks to all for the nice words. I'm doing great - never felt better. I'm hoping that Trickdaddy kicks the bad habit today to avoid radiation and chemo that tobacco use invariably leads to. I never smoked, so do not know how difficult it is to kick a nicotine habit, but I perceive that it's a daunting challenge. BTW, you all are very kind with your thoughts and generous with your knowledge and experience. I appreciate it.
All I can tell you trick daddy, is that if you're serious about quiting, you need to do whatever it takes to quit now. The longer you dip, the harder it will be to quit.
Yah I am losing my pop to cancer right now. His lungs are bad, let me tell you. Let me pray that everyone finds the strength to quit.
I started smoking at 16 and quit at 38....at which time I was up to 3 packs a day.....
I was threatening to miscarry....the Doctor said if I stopped smoking it might help...so....that was it....I quit......
Would never go back.....because it was so hard to quit....no patches 19 years ago....bottom line.....he's 19 now and has a wicked swing....
TrickDaddy...regardless of the motivation to quit.....do it.....it is an awful and terrible addiction.....think seeing your Doctor is the best advise......and even to this day.....wish they had those patches 19 years ago....whatever helps....go for it.....and Good Luck......
I was threatening to miscarry....the Doctor said if I stopped smoking it might help...so....that was it....I quit......
Would never go back.....because it was so hard to quit....no patches 19 years ago....bottom line.....he's 19 now and has a wicked swing....
TrickDaddy...regardless of the motivation to quit.....do it.....it is an awful and terrible addiction.....think seeing your Doctor is the best advise......and even to this day.....wish they had those patches 19 years ago....whatever helps....go for it.....and Good Luck......
forgive me if this is a dumb question, but can you get lung cancer and/or emphysema from dip.
TD,
Cancer, while its name implies a single disease, is actually far more insidious and emerges in many forms. I don't want to get too technical or specific on the HSBBW, but the first problems you're looking at are mouth and throat cancer, although I hate to limit or predict. Please read the website through the link I provided, and if you want first-hand information on what going through radiation or chemotherapy are like, PM me. I will spend as much time as you'd like trying to give you my perspective, which comes from my experience fighting cancer in my body. I would love to help you walk away from tobacco use. Please let me know if I can help in any way.
Cancer, while its name implies a single disease, is actually far more insidious and emerges in many forms. I don't want to get too technical or specific on the HSBBW, but the first problems you're looking at are mouth and throat cancer, although I hate to limit or predict. Please read the website through the link I provided, and if you want first-hand information on what going through radiation or chemotherapy are like, PM me. I will spend as much time as you'd like trying to give you my perspective, which comes from my experience fighting cancer in my body. I would love to help you walk away from tobacco use. Please let me know if I can help in any way.
TrickDaddy.....my paternal Grandfather....loved baseball....was a decent catcher....played through high school and then on his employer's team....B&M RailRoad....many years ago.......chewed....and died from mouth cancer.....there is no good to come from chewing....smoking...dipping....no good at all....it harms you....and others....
Thank you to all who have responded to TrickDaddy's question...and Godspeed to all on the journey to either become or remain nicotine free, and cancer free. You all are tucked into my prayers.
My son, home from college, visited a former teammate and described the hundreds of empty tobacco cans lined up in the windows of the house he is renting with seven other guys...and then casually mentioned all the players who dip, chew, or whatever the term is on his team. Knowing what we have read on this thread in the last few days, and the thread on page 10--Dip and Chew--and reading all the links, we are at a loss for what to do. He said some of the guys have been dipping since they were twelve, and one has a "hole" in his cheek. Doesn't sound good to me. I'm frightened, and so is my son.
Any advice on how my son can help this boy? Should he help him? Or is this a "Gladys Kravitz" situation? I'm terrified for him and all the others who are addicted to this "innocent" -- because it's smokeless -- tobacco.
Thank you.
My son, home from college, visited a former teammate and described the hundreds of empty tobacco cans lined up in the windows of the house he is renting with seven other guys...and then casually mentioned all the players who dip, chew, or whatever the term is on his team. Knowing what we have read on this thread in the last few days, and the thread on page 10--Dip and Chew--and reading all the links, we are at a loss for what to do. He said some of the guys have been dipping since they were twelve, and one has a "hole" in his cheek. Doesn't sound good to me. I'm frightened, and so is my son.
Any advice on how my son can help this boy? Should he help him? Or is this a "Gladys Kravitz" situation? I'm terrified for him and all the others who are addicted to this "innocent" -- because it's smokeless -- tobacco.
Thank you.
What a problem...it sounds like the dipper needs to be looked at by a doctor at the very least...the family doctor must know that this player dips...if not he must be told to help this player out.
Any other ideas out there in HSSBW land?
Any other ideas out there in HSSBW land?
If his doctor isnt aware I am sure his dentist most certainly is
TRhit:
Good point TR.
Good point TR.
TrickDaddy- Best way that I've seen is the guy who comes to spring training...he had his mandible (jaw bone) removed due to cancer! Scariest thing I've ever seen in my life...and I saw a LOT of guys quit on the spot.
That stuff is obviously incredibly dangerous...might I suggest the Barbeque seeds from David? Good luck, man - that demon has taken down many a player over the years!
That stuff is obviously incredibly dangerous...might I suggest the Barbeque seeds from David? Good luck, man - that demon has taken down many a player over the years!
TrickDaddy, you can't get emphysema or lung cancer, but you can lose your face and your life.
I dipped Copenhagen for 25 years, helplessly addicted, tried to quit so many times. Finally, last year, December 12th, 2004, I pulled the plug on it, used the patches, and joined a support group online. The support group was a bunch of guys (and a gal, actually) from all over the US all trying to quit at the same time. Having that support, and to be able to help other people keep going, was what did it for me. I'm now 12 months and 20 days dip-free.
Visit http://www.quitsmokeless.org, join the current Quit Group under 'Community', look at some of the horrifying photos in the Gallery, and get yourself clean! I can't tell you how important it is. Good luck.
I dipped Copenhagen for 25 years, helplessly addicted, tried to quit so many times. Finally, last year, December 12th, 2004, I pulled the plug on it, used the patches, and joined a support group online. The support group was a bunch of guys (and a gal, actually) from all over the US all trying to quit at the same time. Having that support, and to be able to help other people keep going, was what did it for me. I'm now 12 months and 20 days dip-free.
Visit http://www.quitsmokeless.org, join the current Quit Group under 'Community', look at some of the horrifying photos in the Gallery, and get yourself clean! I can't tell you how important it is. Good luck.