Columbia Baseball Program

I do know one local kid who made Columbia and was a contributing P as a Freshman. Under 6', sat 84-5. No idea of his academics. He was not a star in HS. My son remembered hitting him pretty hard. Having said that, he seemed to be one of those kids who it all came together for at just the right time. I saw him at an August HA camp just before senior year, and he was one of, if not the best P out there. Great command, sharp breaking pitch, could spot the fastball. Made the hitters look overmatched. I am guessing Boretti saw him(this was LI) and made a judgement call, even though he didn't have outstanding numbers or projectable size. Turns out he was right, and the kid had a good year in college.

   I always like to remember stories like this. Makes me hopeful that it isn't all about velo and size. I've seen HS kids adjust to upper 80's FB's thrown up in the zone, and the same kids get destroyed by an intelligent P who maxes out at 85, but can actually pitch.

 I've heard good things about Boretti, and the field looks great. Gotta want to be a city guy to go there, of course.

Son loves NYC. I am originally from the area so he has family and some connectivity to New York already. Definitely a unique environment. Well, fingers crossed that when my boy goes to Showball or HeadFirst this summer he performs. Always tell him to work his ass off and then if it doesn't work out you have no regrets- you did everything you could and the stars just didn't align. 

Speaking of Showball and HF, we are planning a trip out to Cali to see some schools and do one of the camps either in San Fran or Sacremento while out there. Due to summer travel schedule and an overseas trip he can't make the Northeast camps, unfortunately. Any thoughts on if that puts him at a disadvantage being out there with California players? I would image it would...

If you're headed out west to attend camps, you should consider attending Stanford's camp, especially if the west coast HA schools are an option if they show interest.  Registration for their camps starts in January and will likely fill fast.

BaseballDad72 posted:

Speaking of Showball and HF, we are planning a trip out to Cali to see some schools and do one of the camps either in San Fran or Sacremento while out there. Due to summer travel schedule and an overseas trip he can't make the Northeast camps, unfortunately. Any thoughts on if that puts him at a disadvantage being out there with California players? I would image it would...

If a girl is pretty in Baltimore, she'll be pretty in Sacramento.

"If a girl is pretty in Baltimore, she'll be pretty in Sacramento."

As someone who attended school and lived in Baltimore, and now lives in California, I can speculate you didnt get to Baltimore much.

In all seriousness, if the coaches are there, it doesn't matter where you're playing. Back in the day, I thought that Stanford camp had slightly better level of talent than HF California, but that the HF camps were equal on both coasts.

Goosegg posted:

 

A 1200 kid needs to be an immediate impact player who will lead the team to a championship. (The one kid I know who was around there was probably the best player to EVER play in the Ivy; certainly the best to ever play at son's school.)

Did the kid you know graduate from that Ivy? I've heard Ivy admissions people say they believe that a majority of the applicants who aren't accepted would have had academic success at their schools if given the chance. They simply have the luxury of select those with the most impressive applications. I'd like to think that there is evidence to support this opinion.

Corroborating what others have said, last year Tischler said that 26 - 27 on the ACT would work.  That seems about like a 1200 SAT.  

Texas1836 posted:

Corroborating what others have said, last year Tischler said that 26 - 27 on the ACT would work.  That seems about like a 1200 SAT.  

As a means of published Ivy comparison this is lower than what Yale states on their emails to potential recruits.  They suggest a 3.8GPA and 30 ACT (approx 1360 SAT) are general thresholds to academic considerations. 

Harvard, Princeton, and Yale all have slightly higher requirements. As several here have already posted, some of the Ivy's have a little more leeway. Of course what the RC was really saying is that they DO have the ability to get a 1200 SAT through admissions but you likely would have to be their #1 prospect for that incoming class. He probably tells every recruit the same thing during their visit so that you remain interested but in the end he will have to find an index balance that works with all of his incoming recruits. So my advice would be to shoot for a 1400+. My post (and some posts from other members) are just repeating what we all heard directly from the Columbia RC.  I just commented because I want other members not to give-up on an Ivy education because of lower test scores. If you have the baseball chops I am 100% sure the schools have the ability to work with the lower test scores--but they will have to "offset" that score with some other recruit.

Basically, if you are going to be let in to Columbia with a 1200 SAT, then you have to be good enough of  a baseball player to get into Vanderbilt. The vast majority of Ivy recruits have VG/EXC grades and test scores...all their baseball skill does is get them admitted more surely than the average joe with great GPA/SAT's.

57 is right on.

To the poster who asked if the kid who had a 1200 graduated: yes, took an extra semester because he signed as a FA junior. Wasn't a top student - but it wasn't his priority; baseball was and I predict one day when his playing career is over he will return as the school's HC.

(And, like every other student, took a writing class, did an original junior "paper" [one semester of work], an originally researched senior thesis [one full year], and passed his department's final "comprehensive" exam [which covers all that disciplines prereq classes]. Not bad for a guy who really focused on baseball.)

This is exactly right. Id make sure whatever event you go to has a critical mass of coaches from schools your son will be comfortable attending.  There should be as many coaches as possible getting looks at your kid, and your son will want them to know ahead of time that he is going to be there.