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Anybody know if composite bats are legal under various sanctioning bodies (Dizzy Dean, Pony, USSSA)? For example, the Dizzy Dean rules say that a wood or approved ALLOY bat may be used (if you want to get the least bit picky carbon fiber isn't an alloy).

I've done a little reading on them and it sounds like we're in for an entire new series of escalations in the bat performance wars. From what I've read it seems that the manufacturers have found a way to circumvent BESR testing - they can adjust the center of balance by using weights to get a pass on BESR tests yet in real-life the bats still outperform the hottest aluminum bats. Also, according to what I've read, the companies submit brand new bats for testing but these bats actually get better after a break-in period.
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SM check out baum bats, I believe a lot of colleges and high schools as well as minor league teams are using these bats. Seems I was reading about the same thing today about how the big bat makers are covering up the testing of these bats by changing the center of balance, and actual speeds of the balls returning have been clocked in the 100+ range, leaving the pitcher about .3 seconds to get outta the way. One scout said he had the gun reading 114. That's ridiculous, how long till we're posting about a college or high school pitcher that gets killed. The speed of which they test these bats *aluminum* is at 70mph with a bat speed of 80mph.I've seen some high school kids swinging upwards of 90, and certainly chucking the pearl in the 90's. So what do you think a college junior or senior might be doing? Seems one of the guys employed by one of the big bat makers quit and spilled the beans on how the manufacturers were getting around the test. I pitch and have 2 boys that pitch so this stuff makes me very nervous.
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if composite bats are legal

Unless things have changed in the last year ... Most are good in most organizations... although there was a few years back that Titanium was banned by a couple leagues and caused a big flack... but then if the bat was BESR qualified... it was good... (boy was that a fun beginning to a new season, with PARENTS complaining and Easton threatening Law suits, and some umpires steadfast and others lenient)

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a wood or approved ALLOY

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an entire new series of escalations in the bat performance wars.


If we all STOP paying $300 for a bat... MIGHT cause that to change... But I've not seen that in the over dozen or so years that I've been buying bats... and will not hold my breath.... Thank goodness my boys now primarily use wood bats.

It will always be easier for Dad/Mom to go and buy the new super duper techno wonder bat than take the time and effort to improve son's skill. And younger boys will always want the COOLEST paint job.... (this must have been prophetic as the above post was not in as I was writing this...)

Even if you do improve skill you don't want your son to then be disadvantaged by someone' else's technology... at least in important competitions.

Its getting worst than Golf....

One thing... Even if manufacturers are trying to beat BESR... its better than it was PRE-BESR when trampoline affect had exit speeds in the 120s... I hate to see where it would be without the BESR in place...


PS... Another pet peeve... what's with the PLASTIC indented CUP on the end of metal bats...??? That only ADDS weigh. Cupping only works by removing excess material such as wood and making the bat lighter at furthest point from the application of power...(ie hands) Metal bats are "Hollow" so plastic cups actually add weight...,

but they look like what the pros use... GEEZZZ...
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If we all STOP paying $300 for a bat... MIGHT cause that to change...


True. Frown However, I have NEVER paid more than $100 for a bat. There are plenty of deals to be had on brand new in the wrapper bats on Ebay as long as you're willing to live with last years paint job.


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One thing... Even if manufacturers are trying to beat BESR... its better than it was PRE-BESR when trampoline affect had exit speeds in the 120s... I hate to see where it would be without the BESR in place...


True, but from the articles I've read it sounds like the manufacturers are getting pretty darned good at getting around the test.

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