COPPELL NEWS - NEW SIGNING

Caught wind of this last night as well. Should be interesting to see 1) how the transfer works 2) to see how he and his other Tiger teammates carry the program for the next couple of years.

If this is all true, they've got an incredible core of young talent!

How can a kid transfer in the middle of a season -- to another team in the same district? Hmmm.

Can't happen....can it?

Should'nt be allowed to happen or everybody will do it.

Was told dad rented apartment in Coppell.

Also was told he would only have to sit out 15 days.
The kid was also starting QB as soph at Flower Mounds football team.

I can't imagine how this would fly w/the UIL since we had a similar situation at Marcus several years ago with a Football player and the results were loss of game time and some coaches got into hot water.

But,,,,,,,,, in this case the said player's family are/were in the legal business so I would imagine all the i's have been doted and the t's crossed. Will be interesting to see how this turns out.

Train: Just a thought since I opened this thread thinking it was about a select team or a thread about a Coppell player making a college committment I think I would change the title of this thread to something like: Coppell News-New Student or New Transfer, the word New Signing just sounds a bit like recruiting. Just a thought.

Also, for those wondering about the UIL policy here is what the UIL site states:



Eligibility for Athletic Contests
meet all the requirements above,

are less than 19 years old on September 1 preceding the contest or have been granted eligibility based on a disability that delayed their education by at least one year,

live with their parents inside the school district attendance zone their first year of attendance (see your school administrator for exceptions),

have not moved or changed schools for athletic purposes,

have not violated the athletic amateur rule, and

were eligible according to the fifteen day rule and the residence rule prior to district certification.

Train,
I thought you were one who says "no sophomores make any real difference on varsity"

This kid could not get into the starting lineup at FM thus the reason for transferring. He was also a big disruption in the baseball lockerroom and not a team player.

This is a case of mommy and daddy enabling their son and not being happy with playing time, nothing more nothing less. We wish him nothing but the best and hope that mommy is there for him when something else upsets him or doesn't go his way later in life.

I'm just a fly on the wall here but....I imagine the following two items (at the least) are widely interpreted.

• "have not moved or changed schools for athletic purposes,"
  
  
• "....prior to district certification."

In any case, will this kid impact either team in 2007? I think the Coppell outfield is locked down, eh?

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Originally posted by oldbat-never:
Train: Just a thought since I opened this thread thinking it was about a select team or a thread about a Coppell player making a college committment I think I would change the title of this thread to something like: Coppell News-New Student or New Transfer, the word New Signing just sounds a bit like recruiting. Just a thought.

Also, for those wondering about the UIL policy here is what the UIL site states:



Eligibility for Athletic Contests
meet all the requirements above,

are less than 19 years old on September 1 preceding the contest or have been granted eligibility based on a disability that delayed their education by at least one year,

live with their parents inside the school district attendance zone their first year of attendance (see your school administrator for exceptions),

have not moved or changed schools for athletic purposes,

have not violated the athletic amateur rule, and

were eligible according to the fifteen day rule and the residence rule prior to district certification.

Train: I think you had it right the first time. No need to change the title.

BTW - If the FM coach believes the player transfered due to athletic purposes, it will be reviewed by the DEC for a decision on eligibility. This will be an interesting one to watch!

When I heard this news last night my first thought was......mystery solved maybe

Train is the transferee's Dad due to all the Flower Mound/Coppell talk over the years?

Is someone/some school getting "railroaded" on this one??????

It's a good thing mommy runs the Tigers or we might have a new summer team too.

What does this move have to do with the Tigers???

I wonder if the other sibling brothers of this player also enrolled in Coppell schools yesterday?

If athletic reasons were not the reason for the move I would think all would have enrolled.

Pantherdad,

With mommy's involvement he is assurred of getting to play. Without it he might get unhappy and have to change teams.

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Originally posted by diamondgirl:
It's a good thing mommy runs the Tigers or we might have a new summer team too.

Left Tigers to be a Mustang before summer '06...left Mustangs to be on Tigers summer '06...left FM to go to Coppell spring '07...

Are you suggesting there's a pattern?

I personally think, he is one of the Top 2009 players both as a pitcher and as a position player. What is wrong with positioning yourself for the future. If he was not getting playing time with Flower Mound it does not hurt the team. If he can help Coppell so be it.

Is this lady good looking and single because im in the market and my son could use a few more innings.

11sdad

You crack me up!

BAAAAAAACK: Up and leaving a High School team midseason then going across the tracks to a district rival just doesn't sound good no matter how you spin it.

What ever happened to the term "finish what you started"?

If things weren't working out for the player (starting/not starting)then why didn't he just finish it out then cash out? Guess that is a question only they can answer.... hope it works out for them....

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Originally posted by BAAAACK:
I personally think, he is one of the Top 2009 players both as a pitcher and as a position player. What is wrong with positioning yourself for the future. If he was not getting playing time with Flower Mound it does not hurt the team. If he can help Coppell so be it.

After watching Coppell the last few games they could use him. They will be losing a lot of quality players to graduation. If he was not playing, what difference does it make?

My understanding is that '07 brother remains at FM -- who would move their senior to another school with 6 weeks until graduation?

There are scores of kids that change summer teams, some do it annually -- let's cut them a little slack here. As I understand it, the kid doesn't lack summer playing time. Of course, I am more up on the '08s.

I'm in a room full of skeptics!

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Originally posted by Panther Dad:
My understanding is that '07 brother remains at FM -- who would move their senior to another school with 6 weeks until graduation?

There are scores of kids that change summer teams, some do it annually -- let's cut them a little slack here. As I understand it, the kid doesn't lack summer playing time. Of course, I am more up on the '08s.

I'm in a room full of skeptics!

Heck, I think he should have gone to Prestonwood or TCA.

quote:

Originally posted by 11sdad:
Is this lady good looking and single because im in the market and my son could use a few more innings.

Doesn't matter to me if she is good looking or single if it will get my boy more innings!

quote:

Originally posted by Panther Dad:
My understanding is that '07 brother remains at FM -- who would move their senior to another school with 6 weeks until graduation?

There are scores of kids that change summer teams, some do it annually -- let's cut them a little slack here. As I understand it, the kid doesn't lack summer playing time. Of course, I am more up on the '08s.

I'm in a room full of skeptics!

PD,

It is no skin off my nose either way, but what happened to teaching a kid a life lesson by fighting for playing time and working to make your home program successful, instead of running to the next team to the right and hoping to get PT handed to you?

T-Bird Son's team is having a tough year. The other day, he told me he wants to help make the team stronger the rest of this year and the next two...wouldn't transfer if I stuck a gun to his head...just different strokes for different folks I guess.

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but what happened to teaching a kid a life lesson by fighting for playing time and working to make your home program successful, instead of running to the next team to the right and hoping to get PT handed to you?

Sounds like free agency doesn't it.

"The Ticket"

TB-D -- I agree with you -- and am not suggesting that it is a good practice to take your ball and go home --- or in this case to take your ball and change homes......but, I know little about this specific circumstance. I suppose the district coaches may have a hand in the decision on whether the transfer student can play this year.

I admire your son for his approach to tough times.

Pantherdad, I would agree that the older sibling would not change schools but there is a younger one too. Surely he would change schools.

diamondgirl,
Maybe the younger sibling is going to keep living with mom and the boy in question is going to live with dad.

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Originally posted by Train:
Heard some great news of a new kid we all know just transfered to CHS. WOW.....it stays in the TIGER family over here!!!

Waiting to hear if its true. Saw him at our game last night along with many of the FM team.

This can help us MEATSDAD. Would you not agree?

Train,

I don't know who you are but you say you are a friend. Introduce yourself to me at the next game and we can talk about this kid off line.

Everyone else, let's remember even if we aren't using this kids name he is still a 16 yr old boy.

His parent got a divorce and he had to change schools....even if he wanted to or not that is still a very big deal.

Let's back off and think about this kid, I don't care about his parents.

Also, this kid is much more a big time QB than a baseball player. Yes, he is a high potential baseball player but he wasn't their #1 starting pitcher and he had several players to split time with in the outfield.

I think he moved because it might be the best thing for the family including the young man.

As for helping Coppell this year. I don't see a spot for him on Varsity were he will get any more playing time than what he was getting at FM.

So again, I doubt this move was just for baseball / sports.

Also, Coach Fuller ( Coppell Football )was at the baseball game last night...I think that might be a first. Especially at an away game.

In the long run it can never hurt to have a young talented athlete in the program. I wish him the best.

Colliker,
How convenient. I would then ask which parent is tasked with establishing legal residence per their divorce decree.

Oh what the heck, it doesn't really matter much anyway.

I didn't know there was a divorce involed or I wouldn't have said what I did. Sorry!

I know beyond the shadow of a doubt that it is the mother, not the dad that is moving immediately. She is married, and the move is convenient for the step-father as well. From what I understand, this is occurring as we speak (it's a little more than just an apartment). I was under the belief that the father was possibly moving in the summer.

As to the other boys, one of them is a senior and it would be rather foolish to have him leave the high school he has spent nearly 4 years at. The other one is in middle school, and there's is little reason not to let him finish this year. Concerning the player in question, it only makes sense to move now as opposed to later. If he does indeed face the 1-year penalty, he could join the team this time next year instead of missing the whole season.

I'm sure that the football team can find a place for the quarterback that beat them last year, and I don't know about baseball. He may not have a spot now, so any senior parents shouldn't feel too threatened, and he definitely brings some young talent that will help Coppell in the future.

My information extends a bit beyond just this, but out of respect, I don't believe much of it really needs to be known. I feel I should remind many people here that they are indeed adults and maybe their conjectures are best left off this site.

-WMN

Edit*
I think it should also be clear that what happened with Nick Stephen 2 years ago, is a different situation. He was transferring within LISD, whereas this one is not

Just curious, are there eligibility issues for football as well? Seems like if you had to sit out a year for baseball wouldn't that also apply to football?

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Originally posted by cheapseats:
Just curious, are there eligibility issues for football as well? Seems like if you had to sit out a year for baseball wouldn't that also apply to football?

The eligibility rules would apply to both sports, though it is unclear what the end result will be.

If the kid was allowed to play he would attain a starting role in matter of time. He was fast becoming Flower Mound N0 2 or 3. The kid has some big time ability and sure help injury riddled staff
at Coppell. This weekends game between the two will be quite interesting.

quote:

Originally posted by TimeToStepUp:
If the kid was allowed to play he would attain a starting role in matter of time. He was fast becoming Flower Mound N0 2 or 3. The kid has some big time ability and sure help injury riddled staff
at Coppell. This weekends game between the two will be quite interesting.

Believe me he will be welcome but as for this year I doubt Coach English would mess with the chemistry.

The pitching staff is fine, actually the roles are becoming more and more refined while...yes, we wait for Cole to return.

If the boy in question was fast becoming the 2 or 3 then FM is in more trouble than I thought from a pitching stand point. But I don't think that is the case, Bruening seems to be more reliable.

The boy in question is a fine athlete but didn't make it out of the 3rd and then the 4th inning the last two outings and was a bit wild.

With Coach English it is all about trust, he has to know a pitcher before he gives him a shot and then the pitcher has to earn the trust and walks get you the hook.

Things would have to go really bad for several boys (including my own) between now and the April 13 game against Newman Smith for him to get a shot.

I do still believe that the UIL and the District will let him play this year. This is a non-sports driven move and if the UIL penalized every kid who's parent got a divorce or had to go live with an aunty or uncle in a different DISD school zone there would be a lot of kids sitting out.

It will be nice to have an extra outfielder and bat of the bench.

Why is this such big news? Let the kid move on and play ball. I dont think it should be this popular of an issue. JMO

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Originally posted by FmJags1330:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BaseballandBeer:
Why is this such big news? Let the kid move on and play ball. I dont think it should be this popular of an issue. JMO

Honestly, I agree. The kid is a good athlete and should be welcome at Coppell. He's leaving on good terms with most people at FMHS, so let's just let him have his shot. He's certainly not hurting the team. At the very least, let's try to be a little more respectful of the position he's in, as most of us don't understand it.

Even with a total lack of understanding however, diamondgirl appears ready to spew venom wherever she can.