GO Cornell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Coach,
Hope you can bring them the same luck you brought for Butler!!!
Hope you can bring them the same luck you brought for Butler!!!
Hanging tough so far only down 2 with less than 10 min to go in the first half. Man it would be awesome to see those guys advance.
They might be smarter but not Fast enough. Blow out coming. Go Big Blue
Coach thanks for reply today. Good Luck to your son this year. I hope your not too big a Cornell fan.
quote:Originally posted by Coach_May:
GO Cornell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shame on you CM. Go BIG BLUE!!!
Have to admit, Calipari can really recruit.
Did it at U Mass. Oh, that's right, NCAA violations.
What a job he did at Memphis!'
Oh, that's right, NCAA violations.
First year at Kentucky and look at their recruits???
Did it at U Mass. Oh, that's right, NCAA violations.
What a job he did at Memphis!'
Oh, that's right, NCAA violations.
First year at Kentucky and look at their recruits???
quote:Originally posted by infielddad:
Have to admit, Calipari can really recruit.
Did it at U Mass. Oh, that's right, NCAA violations.
What a job he did at Memphis!'
Oh, that's right, NCAA violations.
First year at Kentucky and look at their recruits???
Infielddad - I realize that you aren't familiar with UK basketball. However, no program in the nation has been under more scrutiny... internally and externally. Our recruits are here for a reason and it has nothing to do with anything unethical or illegal. KY has ALWAYS been able to recruit.... well except under Billy Clyde. More great ones a comin' too!!
quote:Originally posted by keepingthedreamalive23:
Coach thanks for reply today. Good Luck to your son this year. I hope your not too big a Cornell fan.
Welcome to HSBBW Georgetown!
Hey every year when its tourney time I am sweating out UNC's games and watching everyone pull against us. Now I get the chance to do the same thing to the other big boys since we are in the freaking NIT!
Calipayme, I mean Calishady, Dang it I mean Calipari has done a great job bringing in these great players. Lol
Calipayme, I mean Calishady, Dang it I mean Calipari has done a great job bringing in these great players. Lol
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He does recruit good. Its been much more fun for UK fans than the past few years. Calipari is doing alot for community and personally I like him from everything I have seen . He would be great to play for if you were a player as he motivates in a positive way.Umass tough to blame on him. Can't say for Memphis.
We know how you feel coach. Our programs have had more fun than most so being hated comes with the territory.
lafmom,
Some fine coaches have raised questions about Calipari.
Takes a few years.
Tough for a zebra to change stripes.
Maybe he did.
Time will tell because those freshman will be gone come June.
Let me phrase this a different way. I don't think you would ever see Calipari coaching an Ivy league team.
Is he good enough as a coach? After all these years, I think the answer is still open.
Would it impact his recruiting? I think the answer is pretty clear. Could he go to Stanford, for instance, and do what Mike Montgomery did? I have my doubts both as a coach and recruiter.
The future will tell about Calipari at Kentucky, not the present.
Some fine coaches have raised questions about Calipari.
Takes a few years.
Tough for a zebra to change stripes.
Maybe he did.
Time will tell because those freshman will be gone come June.
Let me phrase this a different way. I don't think you would ever see Calipari coaching an Ivy league team.
Is he good enough as a coach? After all these years, I think the answer is still open.
Would it impact his recruiting? I think the answer is pretty clear. Could he go to Stanford, for instance, and do what Mike Montgomery did? I have my doubts both as a coach and recruiter.
The future will tell about Calipari at Kentucky, not the present.
quote:Originally posted by infielddad:
lafmom,
Some fine coaches have raised questions about Calipari.
Takes a few years.
Tough for a zebra to change stripes.
Maybe he did.
Time will tell because those freshman will be gone come June.
Let me phrase this a different way. I don't think you would ever see Calipari coaching an Ivy league team.
Is he good enough as a coach? After all these years, I think the answer is still open.
Would it impact his recruiting? I think the answer is pretty clear. Could he go to Stanford, for instance, and do what Mike Montgomery did? I have my doubts both as a coach and recruiter.
The future will tell about Calipari at Kentucky, not the present.
Bill, I don't think any Ivy League basketball program can recruit like KY can... regardless of coach. Just my personal opinion of course. Could Calipari do what Montgomery did at Stanford? Could Montgomery do what Cal has done here? You can spin both of those in many directions. I do agree with ya though on one thing... time always gives us answers.
Hats off to Cornell! Nice effort and I can certainly see why they advanced this far!!
Now... UK off to play with Huggy!
Now... UK off to play with Huggy!
If a kid wants to play in the NBA Calipari is the right coach. If a college wants to get to the Final Four while risking probation Calipari is the right coach. Give him time. Kentucky will end up on probation. I'll push all my chips in on this bet.
I believe if a coach's program goes on probation the probation should follow the coach when he leaves. Then he can't run away from the problems he created.
I believe if a coach's program goes on probation the probation should follow the coach when he leaves. Then he can't run away from the problems he created.
That rule should go for everyone including ex Kansas Coaches that are now at UNC. Rules should be the same as Memphis situation with Dukes program and Magette. NCAA needs to have consistancy with its rulings. The UMASS situation with Calipari could not have been controlled as player took money from agent during final season and was turned in during the summer by UMASS when they found out. The deal with Rose is a little more cloudy but NCAA had the opportunity to rule on eligibility of Rose if they questioned his clearinghouse status. Barnhart at UK is a stickler on compliance issues check out the Paxton situation on baseball team. With the many rules the NCAA has it takes good compliance department to keep up with everything.
keepingthedream -
I'm not a fan of Barnharts. With that said, there is one thing that is very clear about him. He is a STICKLER for sure about compliance and our compliance officers reflect that attitude.
People outside our area have no idea of the investigation that was done into the Memphis situation. UK knew all about the (at that time) investigation that was occuring and made sure that the NCAA had NO implications of ANY wrong doing on Cal's part. Nor do they understand the investigation was about multiple issues down there - outside of basketball program. Folks like to take stories and sometimes run with them. As you said earlier, folks also like to take down programs that are typically successful. We all like to root for the underdog - myself included.
The NCAA has many faults - including not being consistent in their rulings. Oh, I could go on and on.... no one here cares about my opinions!
I'm not a fan of Barnharts. With that said, there is one thing that is very clear about him. He is a STICKLER for sure about compliance and our compliance officers reflect that attitude.
People outside our area have no idea of the investigation that was done into the Memphis situation. UK knew all about the (at that time) investigation that was occuring and made sure that the NCAA had NO implications of ANY wrong doing on Cal's part. Nor do they understand the investigation was about multiple issues down there - outside of basketball program. Folks like to take stories and sometimes run with them. As you said earlier, folks also like to take down programs that are typically successful. We all like to root for the underdog - myself included.
The NCAA has many faults - including not being consistent in their rulings. Oh, I could go on and on.... no one here cares about my opinions!
quote:As you said earlier, folks also like to take down programs that are typically successful.
I disagree. Notre Dame was the only place Lou Holtz didn't get his program on probation. ND is hallowed ground. Alabama got nailed big time and their probation didn't include being banned from bowl games. USC football should get nailed big time and will probably get slapped on the wrist.
Basketball has a sleazy reputation. I once read an article quoting a college basketball oldtimer insider saying there have probably been four or five clean basketball coaches in the past thirty years. He said Bob Knight was one of them. He said cheating in college basketball is rampant and the NCAA can't keep up.
I don't buy a coach not being responsible for actions between players and boosters. A coach has to know what's going on in his program. He has to be concerned with the character of the players he recruits. He has to be careful what characters are hanging around the program. While illegal contributions from boosters don't happen in front of the coach, the program knows who is close to the program. These people are visible. THey have money. They're in the first row at games. They're at road games. They sometimes check out practices. They get close to the program.
I casually know someone through a friend who gives one million a year to his college football powerhouse alma mater. He's on the fifty yard line at home games. He travels to all the away games. He knows the players. If I were the AD and football coach I'd keep as close eye on where this kind of many lands.
I would have given Cornell a legit chance against any other team in the tournament at this point.
UK is just too talented for a cinderella to keep up with.
The Cornell kids are very game and talented, a great way to end a career for an Ivy League school.
UK is just too talented for a cinderella to keep up with.
The Cornell kids are very game and talented, a great way to end a career for an Ivy League school.
There were no boosters concerned with Calipari with either Umass or Memphis. At Umass an agent paid Marcus Camby in the middle of the season his Junior year to represent him in the next draft, at the end of the season Umass officials found out about this and turned the situation in to the NCAA. Coaches should know whats going on with players but this is very hard to police. Roy Williams actually paid players families to fly I believe mistakenly and landed Kansas with some violations upon leaving for North Carolina but thats not brought up much. Cory magette of Duke took money as a high school player and NCAA ruled him ineligible player but Duke got to keep Final 4 appearance.
A little effort at some humor:
Cornell Hoops Team Under Investigation
Cornell's run to the Sweet 16 as a No. 12 seed may be tarnished after reports surfaced today that all 13 players on the roster have been given elite educations that all but guarantee high-paying jobs after they leave the school. "It's important to remember that right now these are only allegations -- allegations that we are looking into," said NCAA president James Isch. "But, obviously, if true, this would be very disappointing. The NCAA has certain expectations and standards. It's not fair for players at one school to be given expensive educations while athletes at other member schools receive basic, remedial instruction that is worth essentially nothing." According to documents seized from the school's registrar's office, Big Red players have received an education worth $39,450 per year -- or $52,316 including room and board -- totaling more than $200,000 over a four-year career. Compare that to player at a school like Kentucky, where tuition is set at $4,051 -- but with an actual value far below that. Kentucky coach John Calipari, whose team must play Cornell in the next round, says the disparity troubles him. I don't want to say too much until these reports are confirmed," said Calipari. "But we're talking about more than a $150,000 difference in education per player -- and that's even if my players stayed four years or graduated, which many of them do not. Then these Cornell players are reportedly stepping into six-figure jobs after graduation while my kids, if they don't make the NBA, have absolutely no job prospects or life skills. It's far from a balanced playing field. They are buying the best players by giving them a high-priced education." In addition to the allegations that they were given an expensive education, many Cornell players have been spotted around campus holding books, studying and engaging in interesting conversations. Others have been seen with people who are known to not be tutors. Cornell point guard Louis Dale, who is reportedly enrolled in the College of Human Ecology, denied allegations that the Big Red program is cheating. "The discourse on this matter is fatuous and inane," he said, only implicating his program further.
Cornell Hoops Team Under Investigation
Cornell's run to the Sweet 16 as a No. 12 seed may be tarnished after reports surfaced today that all 13 players on the roster have been given elite educations that all but guarantee high-paying jobs after they leave the school. "It's important to remember that right now these are only allegations -- allegations that we are looking into," said NCAA president James Isch. "But, obviously, if true, this would be very disappointing. The NCAA has certain expectations and standards. It's not fair for players at one school to be given expensive educations while athletes at other member schools receive basic, remedial instruction that is worth essentially nothing." According to documents seized from the school's registrar's office, Big Red players have received an education worth $39,450 per year -- or $52,316 including room and board -- totaling more than $200,000 over a four-year career. Compare that to player at a school like Kentucky, where tuition is set at $4,051 -- but with an actual value far below that. Kentucky coach John Calipari, whose team must play Cornell in the next round, says the disparity troubles him. I don't want to say too much until these reports are confirmed," said Calipari. "But we're talking about more than a $150,000 difference in education per player -- and that's even if my players stayed four years or graduated, which many of them do not. Then these Cornell players are reportedly stepping into six-figure jobs after graduation while my kids, if they don't make the NBA, have absolutely no job prospects or life skills. It's far from a balanced playing field. They are buying the best players by giving them a high-priced education." In addition to the allegations that they were given an expensive education, many Cornell players have been spotted around campus holding books, studying and engaging in interesting conversations. Others have been seen with people who are known to not be tutors. Cornell point guard Louis Dale, who is reportedly enrolled in the College of Human Ecology, denied allegations that the Big Red program is cheating. "The discourse on this matter is fatuous and inane," he said, only implicating his program further.
I think some you need to get a life in the real world
Respect the kids of the "BIG RED" not joke about them
Respect the kids of the "BIG RED" not joke about them
There was a lot made of an ivy league school playing a SEC school. KY players had a lot of fun with it and certainly meant no disrespect to Cornell. KY loves basketball and college athletics... always appreciate a good team.
One quote from one of our freshmen starters about last night's game.... "it's a basketball game, not a spelling bee". lol
Some folks might be interested in knowing that our oldest starter, junior Patrick Patterson, who will probably leave for the draft this year GRADUATES. For anyone that has trouble doing the math... that's a degree after THREE years of playing in a high intensity basketball program when many basketball players are known for not graduating EVER. Quality kid!
One quote from one of our freshmen starters about last night's game.... "it's a basketball game, not a spelling bee". lol
Some folks might be interested in knowing that our oldest starter, junior Patrick Patterson, who will probably leave for the draft this year GRADUATES. For anyone that has trouble doing the math... that's a degree after THREE years of playing in a high intensity basketball program when many basketball players are known for not graduating EVER. Quality kid!
Originally posted by infielddad:
"A little effort at some humor:
Cornell Hoops Team Under Investigation"
Infielddad, you made my lunch. Excellent post.
"A little effort at some humor:
Cornell Hoops Team Under Investigation"
Infielddad, you made my lunch. Excellent post.
quote:"But, obviously, if true, this would be very disappointing. The NCAA has certain expectations and standards. It's not fair for players at one school to be given expensive educations while athletes at other member schools receive basic, remedial instruction that is worth essentially nothing."
That is funny
I don't care where you go to school, you get out of it what you put into it. These Ivy kids aren't guaranteed jobs because of the diploma says Ivy, it's because they have a life long history of high academic results.
My "passion bucket" is still over flowing with Cornell red.
It's up to the coach to recruit kids of character and know, or have someone close to them who knows the rules.quote:Originally posted by keepingthedreamalive23:
There were no boosters concerned with Calipari with either Umass or Memphis. At Umass an agent paid Marcus Camby in the middle of the season his Junior year to represent him in the next draft, at the end of the season Umass officials found out about this and turned the situation in to the NCAA. Coaches should know whats going on with players but this is very hard to police. Roy Williams actually paid players families to fly I believe mistakenly and landed Kansas with some violations upon leaving for North Carolina but thats not brought up much. Cory magette of Duke took money as a high school player and NCAA ruled him ineligible player but Duke got to keep Final 4 appearance.
Sleaziest comment made by a college coach ...
Denny Crum when at Louisville (paraphrasing): It's not my job to graduate these kids. It's my job to get them ready for the NBA.
He had one or two NBA prospects at a time. What about the other kids? I'm guessing his real thinking was, "I have to win to keep the alumni and boosters off my back to keep my high paying salary, tv show and sneaker contract."
Denny Crum when at Louisville (paraphrasing): It's not my job to graduate these kids. It's my job to get them ready for the NBA.
He had one or two NBA prospects at a time. What about the other kids? I'm guessing his real thinking was, "I have to win to keep the alumni and boosters off my back to keep my high paying salary, tv show and sneaker contract."
Infield dad that was fabulous!
Infielddad,
LOL. Too freaking funny! You should "moonlight" as a Sports Information Director in your spare time.
LOL. Too freaking funny! You should "moonlight" as a Sports Information Director in your spare time.
if dad: awesome!!!
Thanks but I surely don't have the talent, creativity or humor to author this.
I cut and pasted it from a email I received, which didn't identify the actual source of the humor.
I cut and pasted it from a email I received, which didn't identify the actual source of the humor.