what do you think about it?
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This subject has been talked about many times on this site. I believe you will find that most folks would tell you to stay away from something that nobody really knows what the long-term effects to your body may be.
I am not sure of you age, but workout, eat very well and let father or mother time take care of the rest. My sone was 6' 1" 154 pounds when he graduated from HS. He is 6' 3" and 195 now. It took him awhile, but he ate well continued to be patient and worked his butt off in the weight room. There was no Creatine involved. Keep working.
O42
This subject has been talked about many times on this site. I believe you will find that most folks would tell you to stay away from something that nobody really knows what the long-term effects to your body may be.
I am not sure of you age, but workout, eat very well and let father or mother time take care of the rest. My sone was 6' 1" 154 pounds when he graduated from HS. He is 6' 3" and 195 now. It took him awhile, but he ate well continued to be patient and worked his butt off in the weight room. There was no Creatine involved. Keep working.
O42
right now im only 14 turning 15 in january, but im 6'1"-2" and about 175 lbs. I eat very healthy, and I work harder than everyone else.
I know im worker harder because now im starting to get stronger than most of the sophmores (me being a freshman).
Im taking creatine right now, my trainer has a master in sports nutrition and says the only products he takes are creatine and protein shakes.
I know im worker harder because now im starting to get stronger than most of the sophmores (me being a freshman).
Im taking creatine right now, my trainer has a master in sports nutrition and says the only products he takes are creatine and protein shakes.
Here is some info I pulled off of the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons website.:
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# Doctors are still studying the benefits and risks of using creatine supplements. They don't know the long-term health effects, especially in bodies that are still growing.
# Because of unknown health risks, children and adolescents under age 18 and women who are pregnant or nursing should never take creatine supplements.
People who take creatine supplements may gain weight caused by muscles holding water. Other side effects of long-term use include muscle cramps, dehydration, diarrhea, nausea and seizures. It may be dangerous to take creatine supplements while undergoing dehydration (i.e., for wrestling competition) or if you are trying to lose weight.
* No one knows what may happen to important organ systems like the heart, brain, kidneys, liver and reproductive organs if you take creatine supplements.
* No one knows what may happen if you combine creatine supplements with over-the-counter medications, prescription drugs, vitamins, etc.
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# Doctors are still studying the benefits and risks of using creatine supplements. They don't know the long-term health effects, especially in bodies that are still growing.
# Because of unknown health risks, children and adolescents under age 18 and women who are pregnant or nursing should never take creatine supplements.
People who take creatine supplements may gain weight caused by muscles holding water. Other side effects of long-term use include muscle cramps, dehydration, diarrhea, nausea and seizures. It may be dangerous to take creatine supplements while undergoing dehydration (i.e., for wrestling competition) or if you are trying to lose weight.
* No one knows what may happen to important organ systems like the heart, brain, kidneys, liver and reproductive organs if you take creatine supplements.
* No one knows what may happen if you combine creatine supplements with over-the-counter medications, prescription drugs, vitamins, etc.
Next...1,
Your trainer has a masters in sports nutrition which is not an easy degree and I applaud him for it. I do not have those credentials in that area. But just becasue he has a Masters in that field does not necessarily mean he is right about Creatine. I may not be right either, because it is just an opinion.
My question to you is this:
Do you want to take the chance?????
O42
Your trainer has a masters in sports nutrition which is not an easy degree and I applaud him for it. I do not have those credentials in that area. But just becasue he has a Masters in that field does not necessarily mean he is right about Creatine. I may not be right either, because it is just an opinion.
My question to you is this:
Do you want to take the chance?????
O42
quote:Originally posted by orioles42:
Next...1,
Your trainer has a masters in sports nutrition which is not an easy degree and I applaud him for it. I do not have those credentials in that area. But just becasue he has a Masters in that field does not necessarily mean he is right about Creatine. I may not be right either, because it is just an opinion.
O42
Good post, also keep in mind what works for your trainer as far as diet and protein intake may be different than the next guy. I also assume with his credentials that your trainer is much older than you are, age makes a difference as well. As you stated, it is all in ones opinion.
NOTE: Make sure your diet is good first before supplementing.
Let me tell you this. I did water polo, got pretty ripped, sorta muscular. Made baseball, stopped lifting got a little chubby. In November i was 148lbs, I started lifting 5 x a week on creatine and by june i was 165 lbs and am off it now and am still 165. It works. Not like steroids, but stick with it and lift and you will see results. It help me go from 5'7 148 lbs to 5'7 165 lbs, in case you cant do math I gained 17 lbs on it. Only side effects are a slight stretch mark on my right shoulder/chest area and dont expect to stay trim and ripped on it. It will bulk and thicken you out.
skeet skeet skeet skeet...
thats all i have to say,
instead of that use whey.(protein)
thats all i have to say,
instead of that use whey.(protein)
I took it for 6 months and it messed my kidneys up. They only work at 55 percent now. I would suggest you have your doctor do a blood or urine test every 6 months for a year or two to make sure it's not hurting you, then every year after that if you are going to take it.
Stick to the protein shakes - my whole family uses "Whey to go" as part of breakfast...
thanks everyone i will consider ur opinions and reasons.
Our pharmacist warned us about over use and said it woul damage your kidneys. It is protien and your kidneys can onjly handle so much. Said to use small amount before workouts.
brj1
did u take it for 6 months straight
because u are actually supposed to cycle creatine like take it for a few weeks then stay off for a few weeks then back on
and if you don't cycle you'll get too much for too long
did u take it for 6 months straight
because u are actually supposed to cycle creatine like take it for a few weeks then stay off for a few weeks then back on
and if you don't cycle you'll get too much for too long
This comes directly off of the label of a bottle of creatine from GNC.
"DIRECTIONS: As a dietary supplement, for creatine maintenance chew one or two tablets daily. For creatine loading, chew eight tablets per day: two tablets at four hour intervals. Continue this process for four days. Do not exceed the loading level for more than four days in any one month period. Drink 6 to 8 fl. oz. of water with each serving. Do not exceed the stated amount."
It also stated that it "may help to improve athletic performance". Nowhere does it state that it will help.More importantly it does state "These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."
Don't base a decision to use creatine on word of mouth. If you check out other supplements you will find the same disclaimer on them. If you want to live your dreams don't look for help out of bottle you still can't replace good work ethics.
"DIRECTIONS: As a dietary supplement, for creatine maintenance chew one or two tablets daily. For creatine loading, chew eight tablets per day: two tablets at four hour intervals. Continue this process for four days. Do not exceed the loading level for more than four days in any one month period. Drink 6 to 8 fl. oz. of water with each serving. Do not exceed the stated amount."
It also stated that it "may help to improve athletic performance". Nowhere does it state that it will help.More importantly it does state "These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."
Don't base a decision to use creatine on word of mouth. If you check out other supplements you will find the same disclaimer on them. If you want to live your dreams don't look for help out of bottle you still can't replace good work ethics.
interesting how some people pretty much say you should never take any supplement ever. theres plenty of legal, safe, and helpful supplements out there. i'm not an expert on them but i'm well aware that the pros all take supplements.(and by pros i mean baseball but we could extend it to football, basketball, boxers, body builders, hockey players....)
I say natural added mass is the best kind of added mass. Yea those supplements may help you but why can't you just eat right? Tuna, fish, chicken, all good stuff to eat for your protein doses right there. Think about the past days, you think the massive Greeks and Romans took supplements...of course not and they were the starters of being physically strong. All it takes is hard work and eating right.
Brent, the actual substance (creatine) is not the main problem. Purity of the product is a huge problem.
This comes from Consumer Labs.
All of the standard powdered product passed.
Chewable wafer product failed for having less than 90% of stated qauntity of creatine.
Both liquids failed. One contained less than 1% of the claimed amount and actually contained more creatinine contaminant than creatine. It did not follow FDA labeling requirements including making an unapproved claim, "BUILDS LEAN MUSCLE MASS"
The other contained less 95% of its claim.
An effervescent failed for creatinine contamination.
Half of the products tested by Consumer Labs passed. What about the other half? Only one manufacturer voluntarily submitted their product for testing. That was "Precision", they passed. Don't take my word for it. Check it out for yourself at consumerlab.com
This comes from Consumer Labs.
All of the standard powdered product passed.
Chewable wafer product failed for having less than 90% of stated qauntity of creatine.
Both liquids failed. One contained less than 1% of the claimed amount and actually contained more creatinine contaminant than creatine. It did not follow FDA labeling requirements including making an unapproved claim, "BUILDS LEAN MUSCLE MASS"
The other contained less 95% of its claim.
An effervescent failed for creatinine contamination.
Half of the products tested by Consumer Labs passed. What about the other half? Only one manufacturer voluntarily submitted their product for testing. That was "Precision", they passed. Don't take my word for it. Check it out for yourself at consumerlab.com
Is protein dangerious at all?quote:Originally posted by 08Dad:
Stick to the protein shakes - my whole family uses "Whey to go" as part of breakfast...
Nope won't hurt you at all and it is very benifical, unless you eat like 500 grams a day and you might mess up your kidneys.