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FBD,
Not that you need any encouragement on the subject of World Series and post season tickets... a couple of our instructors who play or have coached against Veal and Atkins (pitchers at Peoria) say they are the real deal! What are they going to do with all that young pitching inventory who got big league experience last year? I thought they would have talked to the DRays about Crawford or Boccadelli by now! Felix Pie looks like neither Mickey Rivers or Vada Pinson right now. More like Tuffy Rhodes!
The White Sox have dropped off the map. What starting pitcher is Williams going to trade next for minor league prospects in return? It seems the Sox are having some financial issues. The Cubs should try to trade for Crawford. They have plenty of good pitchers in the bullpen that they could possibly move. I would hold off on any talk about World Series tickets in Chicago this year. Although, the Cubs are way ahead of the Sox as of right now going into this season.
I think, as a Fair Weather Sox fan, (not the Die Hard of my beloved) that Kenny Williams is doing the right thing in developing inventory for his fourth or fifth starter and/or doing the same thing, looking to trade for a CF with promise to push Anderson or for a young veteran like the Drays have to offer! He'll probably put Josh Fields in LF and more Posednik to CF, if he can't get what he wants in trade.

FBD- Vada Pinson, my CF on the best team of players not in or likely to be voted in the Hall of Fame... (based on their best ten year averages).

1B-Kluszewki (obviously!)
2B-Whitaker
SS-Trammell
3B-Santo
C-Ted Simmons
LF-Rice
CF-Pinson
RF-Murphy
LHP-Sam McDowell
RHP-J.R. Richard

A great read= "Out by a Step" by Michael Shalin
or Bill James' histrorical abstract.
Elgin..

That's quite a team. Can't argue with it. It makes you think about how a player is seen by the media and thus by the fans quite often. Cal Ripken Jr. is a great role model and has a great image and was a fine ballplayer, but is way over-rated and while his streak should be in the HOF, I'm not sure he should be. He held his team back by insisting on playing SS, but no one made a big deal about that. I think if Vada Pinson were a white guy, he would have been in, but since he made some noise about racial problems he wasn't well-liked.

Jim Rice is a no doubt HOF player. In my book Santo is too, no matter how pathetic his efforts to get in have made him look.

Sam McDowell is way ahead of the Phil Niekros of the world who were long-term studies in being average. JR Richard was so scary in the 70's I don't think anyone wanted to be in the box against him. Was it a stroke that ended his career?

Some other names....Pete Rose is on my team, jerk or not. If this steroid thing breaks open after the Judge ordered the test results to be part of the record we might have a few guys with big numbers who don't get in.

This is fun stuff that can help get thru the winter.
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