You would think that the NCAA would at least get the headline right....?????

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Vander Tuig propels NC State past UCLA with 2-1 victory in Game 8

they cann't spell colllege - 

what a jokkke they are lately

(boo LA! lol now another State v UNC game, where are the tums?)

Savage and UCLA sure have executed a good pitching plan tailored to the ball park.

For those back East, Savage is well regarded...for a long time...as a pitching guru out here.

UCLA is showing that you can win with an anemic offense, good great, pitching and excellent defense. 

However it is a tight rope and I think NC State will come through the looser bracket and win this side. 

I think UCLA's strengths and style of play are perfectly adapted to CWS ballpark.  MS State is on a roll, and they have the inside track with no losses.  MS State seems to grind out "W's", and I really like their team chemistry.  It is going to take a lot of talent and depth to overcome the one loss by NC State, UNC, and Oregon State to advance.  I think if anyone can do it, it is UNC but that is coming from a guy that lives in ACC country.

Hate to say it, but I think Oregon State (who I am NOT rooting for) is the team that can do it.

told you so. 

Go Heels! lol  

Would really like to see them in the finals. 

Apparently the NY Times is questioning the workload of UNC's Emanuel and some other pitchers/programs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/21/sports/baseball/a-top-pitchers-heavy-workload-comes-under-scrutiny.html?ref=sports&_r=0

I was listening to Peterson discuss this pitching workload issue after the game last night.  Peterson is a former player, and he follows the college game very closely.  It surprised me a little bit that he was speaking out, but he had my attention.  It got me thinking....other than the pitcher who has his long term health best interest at heart? The pitcher doesn't want to squawk too much about overuse while playing in college because he can get a rep as a malcontent, and possibly hurt his chances at the next level.   Let's face it the pitching coach and head coach hold all the cards, and I'm not entirely sure that is a good thing in all cases.  Oversight may be a good thing if administered with common sense.  

Fenway,

That is a common theme from MLB scouts.  "Don't go to college, they'll abuse your arms.  They want to win more than develop you.  MiLB will help you develop as they are not so focused on winning as college".   In any event, this is something that is getting and most likely will get more review.

Rodon wasn't as sharp last night.... You can probably find case after case of performance issues after extreme outings. Brackman may hae been overused by Avent as well. (don't know all the details, but he had surgery right after leaving State)

I believe we have several examples of "too much too soon" here on the board. 

I think that this is very apparent in the pros, you will see a pitcher go the distance game after game and have a great year, then not be as reliable the next (there are exceptions).  Or you will see a pitcher pitch a complete game shutout and by the end of season has had a stint or two in the DL.  This also happens to teams that go deep into the post season, the next year there are lots of injuries.

Scouts say that because they want players to sign, there is pitcher mis management in the pros just as there is in college. 

Most of you know I am very much against high pitch counts.  However, there are exceptions to every rule, and IMO, you can't deny that UNC, does turn out healthy pitchers for the draft year after year. And these guys get there quickly because they are doing what is required to do, which takes some longer, pitch at least 100-105 pitches per outing.    

Watching last night's game (in between time outs from the NBA final game), that pitcher is a beast, he got his power from his lower body and his mechanics were exceptional.  And he threw all fastballs and not long innings to tire him out.  You don't find that type of prepared player in every college program.  FWIW, #1 pick in 2007, David Price, pitched complete games in college, and up until this year  has had no issues.  Last year's success may have been what caused some issues this year but he also is an exceptional pitcher with exceptional mechanics that uses his entire body properly.

I do believe in tournament play there should be some guidelines.  Or as suggested in last night's broadcast, more staff to cover the load.

It will be interesting to follow these guys to see if they remain healthy, but rest assured Emanuel will not pitch much more the rest of the season and if so will not be as a starter.

Emmanuel is due to start tonight's game.....

I am sorry, I typed my response up very quickly and didn't reread it.

What I said about him not pitching was in regards to whether he signs or not, the team will most likely give him time off, or a few innings as a reliever due to college workload.

That is assuming he goes pro.

The problem lies, IMO, with the NCAA playoffs and how the difficult road to Omaha taxes the pitching staff.   If your sons are fortunate to get there, you will understand how there are just too many games with not enough arms. 

Well Mississippi State vs UCLA.

Not what I envisioned for the finals.

If I was a gambler I would have lost a lot of money.....

I am curious who's brackets had these two in the finals?

One of the reasons baseball is such a wonderful and maddening sport. 

Both teams have been incredibly opportunistic in the games I've watched.  MS State's pitching has overachieved, defense stout, and offense has been tough to contain.  UCLAs pitching is just plain dominant, defense stout, and their offense has a heartbeat when needed.   I want MS State, but I think UCLA wins this one.  Pencil it in with the conviction of a politician.

I'm sticking with Mississippi State. I have not seen UCLA play in person but got to see MSU play two games. They seemed loose and can play all facets of the game.

I'm gonna say that I am rooting for UCLA (Pac12 brethren) and I think Savage has built and coached a team nearly perfectly suited for that ballpark.  Whether on purpose or not?  (UCLA's home park can definitely give up some home runs).

However, I do like the old days better.  Need some home runs...even doubles (more of them) to make this more fun to watch.  Yup, parent of a pitcher saying that. 

I don't want them to change the bats, but they need to do something to get home runs back as part of the game.

Our HS summer team had a game canceled last night, so we had a rare practice.  I rushed home from work and had five minutes to throw down a burrito before heading to the field.  I was able to watch two AB's of the CWS final game 1 while home.  Those two balls in play gave me at least five practices worth of  material to cover.  The first was a lefty/lefty matchup and one of the commentators stated that the only way the hitter would have success was if he went the other way.  Sure enough, he sits back and takes a hard grounder thru the 5-6 hole.  The next was a nicely placed sac bunt down 3b line.  It was spinning hard and I'm pretty sure it would have gone foul but the catcher elected to field it and fire to 1b.  The throw was too far in on the line.  1b (the MSU lineman) decided to poorly straddle the bag directly in the path of the runner in an attempt to field the throw.  The runner (who was well inside the running lane, BTW) drilled the 1b and the throw got away.  This eventually led to two runs being scored and provided the winning margin.  Game ended up 3-1.  Heck of a lot of baseball to talk about for such a short segment of the game.

BTW, I'm very surprised there wasn't more discussion or coach argument on the runner being inside the lane.  Anyone else see that?

http://www.ncaa.com/video#!pla...s/sports/baseball/d1

The runner was not in the lane, but the actual rule refers to interfering with the fielder taking the throw.  Of course, the most obvious way to interfere with "taking the throw" is to be hit by the ball, but there can be other ways. However, it has to be a quality throw.  In this case, the throw arrived before the runner, but was off line, and F3 was at best poorly positioned.  There would have been a lot of comment if interference had been called.

UCLA absolutely ran a clinic on how you win in college baseball today. They executed every aspect of the game (pitching, defense, and timely hitting) needed to win with today's bats. It seemed every time they had a runner get to second base, they came through with a timely hit (usually the 52 bounce variety up the middle). This happened all throughout their 10-0 run in the College World Series. 

I'm sure every team they played felt like they weren't beat by a better team, but lost the game on their own. In fact, quite the opposite is true. I wonder if we will see any changes happen in college baseball with the balls or bats going forward. One might describe the way UCLA won as methodically boring. I'm wondering how it played out in the ratings on TV.

My thought is how really different the college game has become from the pro game... It almost like watching 2 different sports.

My apologies to justbaseball - I see you posted something quite similar.... At least we agree!

That say's it all.  UCLA made this CWS final a snoozer.  I was flipping through the channels watching Wimbledon highlights and Big Bang Theory re-runs.  In the 5th inning, my wife seriously challenged the approach of the MS State hitters.  "Can't they change their approach, and take some pitches forcing the pitchers to throw lower?"  Apparently not.   Yep, a snoozer.

Congrats UCLA on a well played CWS.  You had a plan and stuck to it.