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D1 Roster Spot or JUCO $$$ ???

P packsthecoolerMember
First, thanks for all the great advice posted...I have read and re-read over the last few years as I have attempted to educate myself in the strange new world of baseball and now recruiting.

Have an older sibling in college so finances are an issue. Senior son, 4 yr varsity starter, moved from infield to catcher position junior year. Has more to learn but has excelled and gotten noticed by JUCOs, mid D1's and a few major D1's through summer ball and a few camps/Area Code try out.

Mid D1 has made an good offer and official visit is planned but his academic interest is not offered by this school. Academically-would have to compromise if he goes with this school. Very good possibility of playing time as they are graduating at his position. coach has been at almost all of his games. He is very wanted at this school which makes him and his parents feel good.

JUCO's are calling, going to meet with two of them next week. Nothing in writing but telling us they will pay for everything and he will get to play. Big plus.....He will get to play. new position and he needs to play to get better. These JUCO's have also been at a lot of games to watch him.

Now, major D1 has called and offered a roster spot. No $$ and others on team at his position that are on scholarship. Academic fit but not really a baseball fit as a freshman other than you are one the team in a uniform and get to practice, possibly earning $ in the future.

Please sound off.....Just a "cooler packer" and don't know the ends and outs of this recruiting roller coaster. Don't want to hurt any feelings especially a D1 college, but is there a good reason to just take a D1 roster spot over the playing time/$$ at a JUCO?

In my simple mind, I'm not finding the logic. Please help. I really appreciate all the posts on this message board and they have helped me greatly in understanding everything from recruiting to POP times. THANKS
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B baseballmom
Additionally, he wants to be at a school where he is "valued" & can play (earn a spot). If you are saying he would be behind several others, ummm, I'd be cautious. He won't get better riding the pine.
Juco's are a good transition for some who may need a step between HS & D-1 adjustment, as in learning to live on his own. However, there are drawbacks, in that Juco coaches don't typically keep as close an eye on their players.
CollegeParentNoMoreCollegeParentNoMore1,000+ posts
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Very good possibility of playing time as they are graduating at his position.


I don't know anything about your son or the school you mention, however if you go this route (D1 walkon) don't expect significant playing time as a freshman. Assuming you son makes the team.....PT will be based upon your son's ability to prove he can hit college pitching and to a much lesser extent his abiltiy to catch. Your son is not their only option for catching, there will be competition for the spot.
H HighCheese100+ posts
Have you looked at other programs offered by the Mid D1 to see if anything else interests him there? Dont forget, a huge number of incoming freshman change their major, so unless he has grown up dreaming about being a whatever, he very well might as well. Walking on at a big time baseball school, especially at a new position, especially at catcher, sounds like an invite to the bench and a likely transfer to me, but obviously, you would know better. my son was offered by a major baseball school at the 11th hour, but wanted to go where he was wanted, no tjust another guy that they were going to try to replace up the road. There is no shame in telling you son that $ is an issue, so if he has his heart set on big-time baseball u, he will have to go JUCO, and work on getting there in 2 years. There is a lot of quality Juco baseball down there.
floridafanfloridafan5,000+ posts
If he loves to play baseball and his dream is to continue to play, I would recommend going where he has the greatest opportunity to play and be developed.
Son was offered Recruited Walk-on roster spot at a major D-1 that consistantly goes to Omaha, a very nice scholarship to 2 good D-2's and a number of JUCO's.
We chose to go the JUCO route, and we have no regrets.
CM Coach May1,000+ posts
Just remember one thing. No matter where your son goes he will have to compete. You can believe that other players going to that same JUCO have been told the exact same thing your son has been told. When he shows up there will be alot of players there all expecting to play. No one packs up , moves , travels to a strange place to go to school and play baseball expecting to ride the bench or get cut. Everyone of them expects to make the team and play. So do not base your decision on playing time or what the coaches said about playing time. No matter where he goes he is going to have to beat other guys out and he is going to have to compete for playing time.

JUCO rosters are littered with guys that went there because they felt it offered them a better opportunity to play right away. Dont base your decision on this.
YoungGunDadYoungGunDadHSBaseballWeb member since 2005
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Originally posted by baseballmom:

Additionally, he wants to be at a school where he is "valued" & can play (earn a spot). If you are saying he would be behind several others, ummm, I'd be cautious. He won't get better riding the pine.
Juco's are a good transition for some who may need a step between HS & D-1 adjustment, as in learning to live on his own. However, there are drawbacks, in that Juco coaches don't typically keep as close an eye on their players.



I don't think many HS players know and parents who think that this "transition" time is quite important and invaluable. They get star struck at ALL the other issues, i.e. D1, playing time, $$, etc. Many freshmen go to D1 and adjust fine. I know for my son this transitional time has been of the utmost importance. He has had to learn to grow up, make decisions that ultimately affect him, make daily important decisions in all matters, etc.

He is now a JUCO Sophomore and is now settled into a routine that comes with live and learn results (and not to mention a Dad who is a former Marine!) and it has gotten easier. Please do not underestimate what baseballmom has said about this.

While he had THAT JUCO coach last year who didn't keep much of an eye on his players, this year he DOES have a coach who seems to have quite a few eyes!

Good luck!

P.S. I have pretty good knowledge of most JUCO's here in the southeast. If you'd like to PM me to ask about certain programs, coaches, etc, I'll try to give you any information I can.
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RR Ryan Robinson100+ posts
Its a no brainer-JUCO-This option serves many options including finances, immediate playing time, and the ability to have all of your options open after just one year of playing. Juco is in most cases the safest choice for the majority of players. I wish your son the very best! Also if your son is going thru a position change think of this. D-1's are limited on the amount of time they can spend on the field in the fall-JUCO's for the most part start practice the first week of the fall semester and stop practicing in December. Alot more time in the fall on the field in Juco.
B baseballmom
Just wanted to add this comment from another thread by Clint Taylor, "2-way player...", General forum, whose son is a freshman at D-1:

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Dad is not sure what to think, but he is making an outstanding transition to college life. (Makes it a lot easier on Mom and Dad)
Note: the coaches are outstanding and very protective..., it is a great atmosphere.


packsthecooler, Please note emphasis.
My son has been very fortunate to have had this type of experience at his D-1. Freshman year was a big adjustment (Dad & I WERE concerned, believe me!!). Sophomore year, son's father died unexpectedly, during a game (3/7/2008). I couldn't have made it, son couldn't have made it...without all the support his coaches & teammates bestowed on him, esp. immediately, but for the duration of the Spring season. They've become "extended family", so to speak.

Back to Juco vs D-1...You know your son best, his maturity level, his determination, lifestyle, etc. Consider carefully the coaches, the atmosphere, the scholastic "feed" to D-1, among other things, like finances, driving, etc. Like others have said, coaches are giving ALL the recruits the same shpeel, so, in your BEST JUDGEMENT, who "speaks with straight tongue", who speaks with "forked tongue"? Make your list of pro's vs. con's on those factors most important to you & son, place a valuation on them & see how it all totals up.
Good luck!!
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MTHMTH10,000+ posts
1. Are you in a state with lottery scholarships? Is the D1 school in state? Many public colleges in states with lottery scholarships are trying to recruit in state kids as preferred walkons. The math is not complicated. 35 roster spots, 27 scholarships max. There have to be 8 (or more) non-scholarship players. It's a lot easier to get an in state kid to take one of these spots, especially if he's going to get a chunk of roster money. It's even easier if he'll get other academic or need based aid. It doesn't mean they think any less of him. That's just the way the system works.

College coaches are going to play the kids that can help the team the most, whether they're on scholarship or not. Remember, the ones that are on scholarship are only on 1 year scholarships

2. If he goes to the JUCO what are the odds that he will be able to transfer to a school that has the major he wants 2 years down the road? If the odds are slim, why bother with the JUCO? Assuming he can transfer to a school with his major, what are the odds that he will be able to finish that major in 2 years? If you're dealing with a specialized major the odds may be pretty slim. In which case you're looking at a 5th year of school, at your expenses. If this scenario is likely, is the JUCO worth it?



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Originally posted by packsthecooler:
First, thanks for all the great advice posted...I have read and re-read over the last few years as I have attempted to educate myself in the strange new world of baseball and now recruiting.

Have an older sibling in college so finances are an issue. Senior son, 4 yr varsity starter, moved from infield to catcher position junior year. Has more to learn but has excelled and gotten noticed by JUCOs, mid D1's and a few major D1's through summer ball and a few camps/Area Code try out.

Mid D1 has made an good offer and official visit is planned but his academic interest is not offered by this school. Academically-would have to compromise if he goes with this school. Very good possibility of playing time as they are graduating at his position. coach has been at almost all of his games. He is very wanted at this school which makes him and his parents feel good.

JUCO's are calling, going to meet with two of them next week. Nothing in writing but telling us they will pay for everything and he will get to play. Big plus.....He will get to play. new position and he needs to play to get better. These JUCO's have also been at a lot of games to watch him.

Now, major D1 has called and offered a roster spot. No $$ and others on team at his position that are on scholarship. Academic fit but not really a baseball fit as a freshman other than you are one the team in a uniform and get to practice, possibly earning $ in the future.

Please sound off.....Just a "cooler packer" and don't know the ends and outs of this recruiting roller coaster. Don't want to hurt any feelings especially a D1 college, but is there a good reason to just take a D1 roster spot over the playing time/$$ at a JUCO?

In my simple mind, I'm not finding the logic. Please help. I really appreciate all the posts on this message board and they have helped me greatly in understanding everything from recruiting to POP times. THANKS
P packsthecoolerMember
Had checked several times yesterday and was disappointed that there were no responses BUT now this morning WOW Thanks so much.

1. Mid D1 with limited academic option. Yes, have seriously thought about the "what will my major be?" and how many times you can change your mind. So we are taking an official visit to this one especially since he is "supposedly" their #1 recruit. Coach has mentioned that many on the team are General Studies major. Any insight on this major, pros and cons?

2. JUCO's are the best fit for him in my mind. The development as a player since it is a relatively new position for him. Great advice about choosing a "coach with eyes". Have asked about study time etc. Should I ask about curfew times? What other questions to determine how much discipline the program demands? Really really want this as this is how he has been raised and also the travel team is almost military and he as flourished with this system.

3. Exactly how would your son word his phone call to the D1 coach offering the roster spot? Don't want to burn any bridges here as this is a very good school but this is just not would be best for him right now, more as a player and his parents finances than in the academic fit/maturity level.

We are fortunate that our son is listening to us and his coaches/mentors of the game and not getting the D1 stars in his eyes but really thinking about what will make him happy and his realistic playing ability. He has also thrown a few comments around that he would like to be fairly close to home so that he could get a good home cooked meal every once in a while.

Last question...as you check out these programs, I find that talking to a player/current and former/ has given us great insight. Do you ask the coach for players names or does my son just do the facebook qwest off of the roster?

Thank you all so much for sharing your experiences.
BBFDad2010BBFDad201010+ posts
"Packs"

My son is going thru the same thing as your son, he has gotten decent amount of interest from Mid-Level D1's and a few upper level.

I posted a link in the Ask about Colleges that describes what he is going thru.

Read my post in "ASK About Colleges"

The one thing that has blown me away thru all of this is a comment my son made to me.

"I may not be 100% ready for a Major D1 now, but I don't want to settle for less, when with a lot of hard work over the next 2 years, I give myself a good chance to still play for a top D1 even if only for 2 years." He also said he doesn't want to be mad at himself 10 years from now that he didn't "Go for It", even if it doesn't happen at least I went for it."

He does a lot a stupid stuff from time to time like any teenager, but I think he is actually growing up.
MTHMTH10,000+ posts
We recently went through the same thing. My son's attitude was much the same as yours. He opted to go for it, and is glad he did. He is a pitcher. He got a couple of mid week starts last year and it looks like he will earn more time on the mound this year, at a big time D1 program.

I know every kid wants to play as much as possible, as soon as possible. But what happened to paying your dues and biding your time until you got your shot? I can remember when freshmen didn't play, and didn't expect to.

It is your son's call, not yours. (Except with regards to the money) He may decide to go for it. If you/he can make the money situation work do it.

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Originally posted by BBFDad2010:
"Packs"


The one thing that has blown me away thru all of this is a comment my son made to me.

"I may not be 100% ready for a Major D1 now, but I don't want to settle for less, when with a lot of hard work over the next 2 years, I give myself a good chance to still play for a top D1 even if only for 2 years." He also said he doesn't want to be mad at himself 10 years from now that he didn't "Go for It", even if it doesn't happen at least I went for it."

He does a lot a stupid stuff from time to time like any teenager, but I think he is actually growing up.
CollegeParentNoMoreCollegeParentNoMore1,000+ posts
quote:
know every kid wants to play as much as possible, as soon as possible. But what happened to paying your dues and biding your time until you got your shot? I can remember when freshmen didn't play, and didn't expect to.


There's a not so fine line between waiting for an opportunity and being taken advantage of. How much do you trust the coach? i.e. Your kid spends a couple of years working with the coach only to be told his time still hasn't come and the coach brought in some JC transfers at his position which is already 3 deep....just wasted two years that you could have been playing. It doesn't always happen that way.....but it does happen.

My point, kids need to play to get better, watching from the bench doesn't improve one's hitting! The nice thing about the JC's is that there isn't much waiting...if you can play, you play. Some D1 coaches will tell your kid he will learn more at his d1 practices then he ever would pratcing and playing games at a JC. This arguement errounously assumes the D1 coach is a better coach then the JC coach.
ClevelandDadClevelandDadHSBBWeb Administrator
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Originally posted by CollegeParent:
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know every kid wants to play as much as possible, as soon as possible. But what happened to paying your dues and biding your time until you got your shot? I can remember when freshmen didn't play, and didn't expect to.


There's a not so fine line between waiting for an opportunity and being taken advantage of. How much do you trust the coach? i.e. Your kid spends a couple of years working with the coach only to be told his time still hasn't come and the coach brought in some JC transfers at his position which is already 3 deep....just wasted two years that you could have been playing. It doesn't always happen that way.....but it does happen.

My point, kids need to play to get better, watching from the bench doesn't improve one's hitting! The nice thing about the JC's is that there isn't much waiting...if you can play, you play. Some D1 coaches will tell your kid he will learn more at his d1 practices then he ever would pratcing and playing games at a JC. This arguement errounously assumes the D1 coach is a better coach then the JC coach.

CollegeParent - you make good points. There are fine lines all over the place at the upper levels of the sport. Sometimes what we are all talking about when discussing these lines is about risk. I agree a kid needs to play but consider...

Competition may ultimately be the best "coach" for a player. One guy goes to Program A, starts right away and is never seriously challenged by anyone on the entire roster or from the opposing teams in the conference for that matter. Same player goes to Program B. There is an intense competition to even see the playing field. Perhaps it takes a year or two of training and biding time, graduation of some players, before the same player can get onto the field. All the time that guy has had to scratch and claw and fight for every morsel of playing time he has gotten. He continues to hone his skills in the college summer leagues and one day he emerges as the starter. It was painful at the time but that guy may ultimately wind-up a much better player for having to compete his butt off to get where he is.

Some of this boils down to long term goals. For some players, the mere chance to play while getting their education is enough. For more ambitious players, you might want to consider a program that is currently just beyond their reach and one they will have to seriously improve in order to play.

packsthecooler - welcome to the hsbbweb!

I think your logic is sound. Considering your family's current situation and the fact that your son has recently transitioned to catcher, the JUCO opportunity sounds like a good one. Only you can make that decision however.
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CollegeParentNoMoreCollegeParentNoMore1,000+ posts
I can understand going for the "reach" program, however one pitfall for such a program is some coaches first impressions can be difficult to overcome, even if the kid works hard etc. and really improves over the years. In the coaches mind he's still not good enough and he doesn't really get a chance to show it. i.e. never makes an attempt to get him into a highly competitive summer league etc..
ClevelandDadClevelandDadHSBBWeb Administrator
quote:
Originally posted by CollegeParent:
I can understand going for the "reach" program, however one pitfall for such a program is some coaches first impressions can be difficult to overcome, even if the kid works hard etc. and really improves over the years. In the coaches mind he's still not good enough and he doesn't really get a chance to show it. i.e. never makes an attempt to get him into a highly competitive summer league etc..

I totally agree. I was not disagreeing in any way with your previous post but only trying to add other ideas to it for consideration.

Again, these decisions all come with risk. To a certain extent, players can analyze a program's history for developing players. Is a program known for inviting huge fall rosters followed by cuts? Is a program known for smaller rosters and developing their players? Do you trust the coach? Can he point to past examples of players who earned their way into a starting role? There will always be risk however.
Infield08Infield081,000+ posts
quote:
To a certain extent, players can analyze a program's history for developing players. Is a program known for inviting huge fall rosters followed by cuts? Is a program known for smaller rosters and developing their players? Do you trust the coach? Can he point to past examples of players who earned their way into a starting role? There will always be risk however.


My son was one of those players who aimed for a "reach" program. He is now a sophomore and thus far has done surprisingly well. In analyzing his situation, perhaps his success is not such a big surprise after all since his program meets pretty much all the good criteria laid out by ClevelandDad: it brings in less than 35 in the fall and puts a huge emphasis on development; the coaches are totally trustworthy and men of integrity; and numerous players who sat quite a bit their freshman and even sophomore years were able to start by junior year. Believe it or not, it is possible to "sit" and improve at the same time!

For anyone but the complete player who has already "arrived," excellent instruction and development is key. When my son entered college he was a better fielder than hitter, but because of the excellent batting instruction he's received he is hitting better in college than he ever did in high school. I'm not sure that he would have gotten this level of instruction had he played at some of the JUCO's which showed interest in him.

That said, there are good (and bad) instructors on all levels. We know pitchers at 2 D1's who have faltered on the mound because of poor, almost nonexistent instruction, and their parents are having to pay for private lessons. The important thing is to carefully research each program being considered and ask lots of questions, not only of the coaches but also the players and their parents. What you learn will help you determine what is the best fit.
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playfairplayfair500+ posts
Passthecooler,

We were in the same spot. Consider these things:

First, there is no guarantee your son will find a place to play at a 4 year after his stint at a JUCO.

Second, look into what kind of academic progress your son will need to have achieved at the JUCO to be eligible to play at a 4 year institution upon transfer. It might be smarter to go straight to the 4 year.

Third, your son will never regret the college experience. He could regret not having it.

Fourth, your son will have great academic support at the D1 level. He will be on his own at the JUCO level.

Good Luck! You are already blessed by having all the options.
CollegeParentNoMoreCollegeParentNoMore1,000+ posts
pf, I disagree. It doesn't matter if you are at a JC or D1, D2 etc, the experience/results depend soley on what your kid puts into it.

D1s can have the same drawbacks as JCs.

-There is no guarantee that the d1 coach won't redshirt you then cut you...even in your senior year
-Academic progress should not be any more of a problem at a JC then a D1, unless you are pursuing certain degree that isn't well funded at the JC (could have the same problem at D1)or don't pay enough attention to which classes transfer.
-The teacher to student ratio is much lower at a JC so the students actually have access to the professor and not some TA that can't teach...as many Universities have. Plus, the academic support at a D1 might be worthless depnding upon your degree (i.e. engineering).
-Unfortunalty, the college experience can sometimes be regrettableFrown
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fanofgamefanofgame5,000+ posts
I dont think there is a right or wrong answer.My son went to JUCO for one year and got an offer this summer to a good school.He had a great year as a freshmen and played with guys older than him, most of his Juco team turned over this year.
My son was challenged last year, and I think it was good for him to be at the JUCO for that year.But this year he felt he needed to move on,be challenged at a higher level
We have no regrets about the JUCO, he wanted to go there and try to get more D1 attention.That was his dream.It worked out well, he had the Correct units(can not emphasize that enough), and was a qualifier.If he had not been a qualifier he would not of been able to go after one year.
Our sons have their own ideas, we can give them advice but they still have to be happy with their own decisions, and live with them as well.
YoungGunDadYoungGunDadHSBaseballWeb member since 2005
quote:

Originally posted by playfair:

Passthecooler,

We were in the same spot. Consider these things:

First, there is no guarantee your son will find a place to play at a 4 year after his stint at a JUCO.
However, you'd be surprised at the majority of JUCO players who DO go on to 4yr schools to play.

Second, look into what kind of academic progress your son will need to have achieved at the JUCO to be eligible to play at a 4 year institution upon transfer. It might be smarter to go straight to the 4 year.
I'm not sure I follow your logic on this one. JUCO's are a great starting point to get their "academic" feet underneath them while taking quality transferrable classes.

Third, your son will never regret the college experience. He could regret not having it.
I whole heartedly agree!

Fourth, your son will have great academic support at the D1 level. He will be on his own at the JUCO level.
Not true. My son's JUCO offers free tutoring should he ever need it. JUCO's are not some fly by the seat of your pants institution.

Good Luck! You are already blessed by having all the options.

20dad20dad1,000+ posts
many things have changed since we went through this.
we had no idea how important being a qualifier was, we had no clue what that meant.

transferable credits at a jc/cc. another very important thing. son was not acedemic. the apple didn't fall far..not even a good bounce.

some other big question's, why are you going to college? is it just to play baseball? if they didn't have baseball,would you still go there? can we afford this?

a scout once told me, baseball isn't a major. but it can be a great motivator for one.

i think very highly of jc/cc. they often have much more help for those that need it. the coaches usually love what they do, and keep an eye on the teams class work. as in all achools,their sucess goes hand in hand.


the jc/cc is usually a more affordable chance to get things right. getting 2 yrs towards a degree at a discount. while they aren't the first choice for all, they are sometimes the only choice. never the less a choice.
good luck in your decision. it isn't an easy one.
Coach_MayCoach_May10,000+ posts
CD that was an awesome post. What type of program is it if every freshman coming in is playing? What does that mean for your son when he is a soph jr or sr? Does that mean the incoming fresh will start over him then?

Its about reaching your potential and becoming the best player you can be. Or its about just getting playing. Its about just playing at the next level or being a part of something that is special and helping it be as special as can help it be.

Some kids want to play at the highest level they can play at and are willing to take on the challenge of proving they can play. Others want to seek out the best opportunity for playing time early.

You determine your value to the coach and the program. Your percieved value to the coach and program coming in will change once they step on the field. Some come in highly valued some come in not valued as highly. But work ethic , ability to make adjustments , injury , performance in the classroom , who gets better from year to year and who does not , who stays focused and who does not , VALUE changes from percieved value coming in to actually value to the program. So what is said before you get there means absolutely nothing once the rubber meets the road.

Its about the opportunity and how you take advantage of it that matters. If your afraid to compete dont go anywhere. No matter where you go you WILL have to compete. How hard do you want to compete? How important is it to have to compete? Just some thoughts.
ClevelandDadClevelandDadHSBBWeb Administrator
Coach May - you make fine points as well.

What no one can understand until they experience things is how difficult it is to even get to play in college. Getting recruited is indeed the easy part about the process although at the time it may seem difficult.

Coaches don't recruit players by telling them they see them sitting on the bench. Players are told things like "We see you as an immediate impact player" or "You will have a chance to compete for a starting position" All the players were all-conference, all-county, all-state, and/or all-american in caliber at the high school level. What you did in high school no longer has any relevance to the college level however.

I think the college game is more about mental toughness than physical toughness although physical tools certainly help the situation. What you get at each position is a competition of very talented individuals. There are ups and downs to the process. Those that can will themselves to overcome and not make excuses are the ones who will rise to the top. It is a challenging process that is unbelievably rewarding for those mentally strong enough to see things through.
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
This has been a good discussion.

I remember reading something by the former head coach son played for, recruiting is just as hard for them as it is for players making decisions (believe it or not). A coach has to bring in the right mix of players so that each and every player (even the best,older players) are challenged to their potential and challenges others to their potential, without that, the team becomes non competitive within themselves. Good experienced coaches have reasons for everything they do.

Every player should come to school, no matter which program they choose, with the intention of winning a starting spot. But, also has to remember that if it doesn't happen, it doesn't make the coach a bad person, or to speak up against team mates. I hear this so often, how unhappy players (and parents) are at not getting the playing time they think they deserve over others, when in reality they may have deserved it, but that is not always in the coaches plans, no matter what he said during the recruiting process, remember, it's his job to get you to come. If he promises you a sure thing out of the box, run in the other direction, that is not how it works in college baseball.

JMO.
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YoungGunDadYoungGunDadHSBaseballWeb member since 2005
If only these darn baseball recruiters were men of their words like the Marine recruiter when I was 18. He told me that if I joined I would make an immediate impact on the team, get plenty of "playing" time on the field, be a key role player in the trenches, be motivated daily to become the best I could become, learn from the best.

I believed him and joined the team. He was dead on with everything he said! LOL

Good luck in all this and have fun. Enjoy this very valuable time with your son. It passes by so quickly.
CM Coach May1,000+ posts
Why? BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH COACHES KNOW YOUR SON'S ABILITIES.

And they will learn all about those abilites as soon as YOU send all of them an email telling them how good they are and how they can play for them? And then they will invite them to a camp. And for a camp fee. And of course there is the flight , food , motel , etc etc. And just how many of these trips are you are going to take to be told the same thing you can be told at any showcase , workout , camp etc right there in your back yard?

Of course lets not leave out the cost this recruiting service is going to require of you. So for a fee you can have your information sent to every baseball program in the nation. And that will get you what? They will learn about your baseball abilities from an email?

10 to 20% of the responding schools will actively recruit you based on an email? Actively recruit you?

No need to be seen actually playing the game. No need to be seen displaying your abilities. Just send out enough emails and you will be actively recruited. Dang dude your on the wrong site. I know times are hard but seriously.
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When you block a person, they can no longer invite you to a private message or post to your profile wall. Replies and comments they make will be collapsed/hidden by default. Finally, you'll never receive email notifications about content they create or likes they designate for your content.
Note: if you proceed, you will no longer be following .
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