D3 recruit guarantee?

theres no guarantee the coach will even be there next year right? All you get in college is a SHOT to play..if the HC is all over your kid he probably really wants him..and will give him a shot..

Son had same experience last year. Was very surprised at how many kids were trying out. From what I understand, since there is no NLI to sign, coaches dont know for sure who is showing up until the first day of school.

My son was recruited to and played 4 years at CNU, a D III that spent much of last season in the top 10. They guaranteed a roster spot the first year. After that, it's all performance based. I've heard other D III's do the same thing, but not all.

Some D III's are famous for "cattle call" tryouts. All schools have them, but some lead more players to believe they are "recruited" than they have room for so do your homework. For example, CNU has tryouts but it's rare for a player not recruited to make the team, and never more than 1-2.

Sounds like the question to ask is how many players on the roster were recruited, and how many just showed up and tried out.

I've noticed some DIIIs carry large rosters - looks like show up and you've got a shot at being rostered.

My son was recruited 2 years ago by several schools in the OAC. The school he chose guaranteed him a roster spot for four years, but not playing time. They recruited heavily, and only the athletes they recruited were guaranteed a spot. Walk-ons were welcome to try out, but with the understanding that they would have to be better than those that were recruited.

Another school in the OAC has a no-cut policy, and yes, they mean it. They had 90 freshmen try out last year, and 90 more this year. The only players with a shot a playing time were the ones that were recruited. Son was afraid he might have a bad game or two and be sent back down with the masses. Those that were not on the traveling squad spent the spring scrimmaging each other.

I'm not terribly worried, the roster is 30-31. They have approx 6-7 openings and it appears 6 recruited freshman that showed up.
Since they made it to the NCAAs it is a very competitive baseball program.
Train hard, work hard, study hard and see what happens.
He turned down invited walk-on to a D1 that has been in NCAAs because this seemed a better fit overall.

I forgot to mention something. These words mean absolutely nothing:

"He will have a chance to contribute as a freshman".

To the coach saying them, it means "He will get a look, perhaps a very small look, and if we like him, he may make the team, and maybe he will play".

To the player, it means "I may start as a freshman."

To the parent, it means "My kid could be a freshman All American".

This expression is the college baseball version of "I'll respect you in the morning." It means nothing.

When you say this line around college baseball players, they just laugh. They all heard it somewhere during the recruiting process.

My sons experience at D3 was much the same, roster of 25-30.recruits........ and virtually none of the "try outs" made the team ...

The "try out" was unadvertised on campus and had the feel of just fulfilling a requirement to be all inclusive..

The vast majority left when the schedule of practices, workouts, games, scrimmages and field duties were posted.....

Hobie,

Perhaps it's semantics but, he said he "expects" him to contribute, not have a chance to contribute.

If his control is there and he consistently hits 88-91, He should contribute.

All American??? ROFLMAO, not even in my dreams. I was honestly shocked he had the talent to play any level college ball.
No "rose colored" glasses here.

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Originally posted by stage4survivor:
No "rose colored" glasses here.

After what you've been through, it's all gravy, my friend. Enjoy every minute.

How about this one, "it is your job to lose" to an incoming freshman outfielder who is behind several well established rostered upperclassmen. It meant to that parent - my son will start the fall as the #1 guy.

The only expectation my guy has - he knows he will have to work his tail off, every minute, every hour, every day - then do it again. Everything else is gravy!

GED10DaD

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Originally posted by AntzDad:

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Originally posted by stage4survivor:
No "rose colored" glasses here.

After what you've been through, it's all gravy, my friend. Enjoy every minute.

It's honestly not what I've been through but, what my loved ones have been through.
This "little boy" was 6 when I was diagnosed with lung ca spread to the brain.
I was blessed to see him grow into a fine young man and decent ball player

Dos this occur only with D3, how about D1 with athletic money, could they still not make the team? and if they don't play much do as freshman do they travel with the team? how about D2?

There is no difference between D1-D3 on playing issues. Whether you make the roster, the travel squad and how much you play is completely dependent on the coach, the other kids in the program and the player. Money and playing are not related other than coaches are likely going to give their high $$$ kids a longer look. (for D1,2 programs) With D3 the recruited kids will probably get a longer look.

dogma,

On my son's DII team only about 25 players of the 37-40 they had on the team traveled on each trip. There was sometimes some turnover on who traveled especially among pitchers, and injuries could be a determining factor also. The Red shirts did not travel of course. I also believe even home conference games were limited to 25 guys but the others could sit in uniform in the dugout.

Stage4,

With what you've all been through, this "ride" will be a breeze. Wow.


Enjoy!

And a pitcher throwing 88-91, unless he's wilder than the Wild Thing, before the glasses (Major League I), I can't imagine he won't get a very good opportunity at a D III school, or even higher for that matter. Any velocity that starts with a "9" will get noticed for sure.


Good luck!

The reality is that every year is a new year. However, coaches and programs really don't change much from year to year.

Parents; please read the rosters for the last few years. How many players each year and how many are freshman. Then look at the stats for that year. How many really played and of that how many are freshman.

If you do it for several years you will see that things really don't change.

The school my son attended; it was consistent that 3-7 freshman get an opportunity their first year. If they impress that stay in the line-up; if they slump the sit until the next year.

A big factor is what it the needs of the team. If your starter from the prior year graduated, there will be an opening and competition. If you have a bunch of returning players in from of you; you had better perform if you expect to see the field.