Dallas Baptist

Looking at your former posts, this is the 6th school you've asked about this year -- and the third one this month! I noticed that your son got his first offer back in July. Still looking for that perfect fit?

Regarding DBU, here is the link to a thread that may answer some of your questions:

http://hsbaseballweb.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1786003481/m/1251083691

And another comment from another thread:

I saw on the internet today that Dallas Baptist has hired Dan Heefner as their new head coach. Their old coach took a pitching job at Nebraska. My son attended DBUs camp last year and we were really impressed with Coach Heefner and his approach to hitting and his interaction with the players. My boy learned alot and had fun doing it.

Coach Heefner is one of the best coaches and MEN there is to play for. You won't find a group of better coaches that will not only be concerned about developing baseball players, but about building men of character.

Going here requires chapel three days a week, taking religion classes and attending discipleship meetings. They do awesome mission type work as well. They play a tough schedule against big name schools. It's a beautiful campus. They are not in a conference. Anything else - just ask or send in a PM.

I thought that was what this board was for??? My son is yet to make a decision. I am trying to find out as much info as I can on all of his options as it seems he is being given a different one almost everyday. Have two more schools to ask about Memphis and Michigan. We thought he was done and had made a choice but after a post on HSB we decided to keep looking.

Williekc, you are absolutely right. My apologies. I'm on Day 15 of a viral infection and haven't been my usual self. Just ask my family! Best wishes to you and your son as y'all try to find the right fit.

I'll vouch for IF08 too!!! She's no meany, I promise. Good luck to your son!!!

I think it sounds like your son needs to decide what he wants.Sounds like he is getting offers from smaller D1 schools but not the big guys.Does he want a chance to play as a freshman,develop and go to one of the BIG schools,play on TV and get all that comes with a big program or would he be content playing just for the love of the game.It is hard for freshman to get playing time at a big school but as a developed player he goes in with a better chance to do just that.
Is he a good student? Would he be better off going to a juco to get down the art of being a college student and a ball player or is he smart enough to pull it all off.Those are all things he has to think about above and beyond what program he wants to play for.My best advice is to go where he is really wanted the most and the program that most fits his personality. Good luck !

I would not say that at all. He has offers from A SEC school (the one he turned down) Two big 12 Schools and the ones I have asked about. He is a very good student 3.5. Thet's exactly what we are trying to do. I'm not sure I understand why all the sudden when you ask about a couple of schools out of your area people feel the need to come down on you. I had the idea this site was for people to help families who had not been through the process before. I am starting to feel like I was wrong....

Sorry I guess I misunderstood your posts.Glad he is getting interest from all the schools.I was just trying to help you out with some advise.Being a good student will really help him as it is very hard to be a student athelete.
Enjoy the ride and good luck to your son. He sounds as if he has a bright future in baseball as well as life.I think you may be a little on edge as the recruiting process can take its toll on the family.Good luck and enjoy his senior year as it will be gone before you know it.

I am a little on edge. Sorry., It's a given he needs to make a decision. I am just trying to get as much info as possible to help him make it.

No problem. Again,much luck to you and your son.

I believe this guy is their third coach since Jim Harp left about five years ago. I don't know if that means anything. They are not in a conference, but just recently moved up to D-1. They have been the best D-1 school in the area as of late. The other two being UT-Arlington and TCU. They don't always play the stiffest competition, which I think hurts them to a certain extent because all other schools are in conference play.

I wouldn't exactly call the campus breathtaking. It sits high on hills and the baseball field is down by a creek bottom which is a swamp that comes off Mountain Creek Lake. The field is nice, but they get few fans.

The school is close to Grand Prairie and Duncanville. I wouldn't go into West Dallas. He can go right over the toll bridge into Grand Prairie and find little things to do. I wouldn't exactly say there is any campus life at DBU because it is so small. They get numerous transfers every year that I remember. I live about 20 minutes from there if you would like any more info about the area or school.

Competition this coming year includes TCU, Rice, UT, Oklahoma, Baylor, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech.

Regarding the appearance of the campus, judge for yourself:

http://www.eubankroofing.com/images/aerial/DBU%201.jpg

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.suzan...0%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

Here's a link to the new baseball clubhouse:
http://www.dbu.edu/athletics/baseball/clubhouse/

Infield08-
Looks like some pretty good competition to me!

That Clubhouse is something special. Lucky boys!
I think I could live in there...Congratulations again, I see good things happening there.

That looks like a beautiful campus to me and the clubhouse is spectacular!

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Competition this coming year includes TCU, Rice, UT, Oklahoma, Baylor, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech.

That's impressive. In my mind, there is not much difference between playing at a top baseball school and getting an opportunity to play them

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Originally posted by Infield08:
Competition this coming year includes TCU, Rice, UT, Oklahoma, Baylor, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech.

Regarding the appearance of the campus, judge for yourself:

http://www.eubankroofing.com/images/aerial/DBU%201.jpg

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.suzan...0%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

Here's a link to the new baseball clubhouse:
http://www.dbu.edu/athletics/baseball/clubhouse/

Yes, They play those teams every year on the road. Texas never makes the trek up to play any of the D-1 schools in the DFW area. Oklahoma, Baylor, and A&M will come into UT-Arlington on occasion. Texas Tech will usually come into TCU.

That air shot looks nice, but believe me the campus is nothing compared to that shot. Jut to the right of the picture runs Spur 408 which is heavy with traffic. However, over the years it has been a pretty good baseball school. I don't think you would be disappointed with that aspect.

I'm simply telling you what I have seen with my own eyes. Lance Broadway originally went to school there before transferring to TCU. He was what I would grade a B+ pitcher at best in high school. Five innings was his max. If I remember correctly, he was the first round pick of the Giants a couple of seasons back.

I used to play catch with him when he was younger and show him some very basic fundamentals of pitching. I take no credit whatsoever.

To the starter of this of this thread. if there is anything you would like to know or I could help you with about DBU, please feel free to send me a PM. A college education and choice of athletic program is a major desicion.

Anyway, good luck and don't forget the most two important things. To be happy with your decision and to earn that degree.

For an "urban" campus, DBU is nice. I think anyone who has been on the campus would agree with this assessment.

PGStaff
HSBBWeb Old Timer

Posted December 19, 2006 09:54 PM
"Many years ago there was a young high school player I used to work with (hitting) at our facility in Cedar Rapids, IA. He had some talent, but more important he was a true student of the game and couldn't ever get enough of it. He was also one of the nicest kids we have ever had the pleasure of meeting.

His name is Dan Heefner and he is now the recruiting coordinator at Dallas Baptist. He has become one of the top hitting coaches in the country and he has proven it with results at a very high level before coming to Dallas Baptist. He is exactly the kind of person I'd want to coach my son. His honesty and integrity stands out.

Well thats about all I know about Dallas Baptist other than they're a good baseball program. "
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Dan Heefer is now the head coach at DBU.

What a beautiful clubhouse! DBU sounds like a perfect fit for Infield08 son. Good things happening at that campus and not just on the baseball field!!

Mr. Hendrix - you already made your feelings known in your previous post. Then, a mother of a future player at DBU posts some positive things so you have to out trump that with some more negatives. That is not appreciated! In the future, if you do not have something positive to say then send the poster a PM to express your views.

Regarding about playing the top teams on the road - that was another low blow comment imho. Are/were you a D1 baseball player? If not, maybe you do not appreciate how much talent it takes to get on the same field with UT or the like and I don't care if that is on Mars. If you are/were, please keep these type of comments to yourself next time.

Correct ClevelandDad-

Infield08 and son have made their decision, and believe me they did their research and made an informed decision that was best for son. This was not his only choice - this was the best choice for him, and a very good one. Excellent academics and great baseball, great coaches. What more do you want

williekc--Hang in there- go by your gut-take what you want from this site, leave the rest.
Good Luck!

Stop raining on their parade Jimi, It's time to celebrate!

With a name like "Lance Broadway" if baseball doesn't work out, there's always show business.

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Originally posted by ClevelandDad:
Mr. Hendrix - you already made your feelings known in your previous post. Then, a mother of a future player at DBU posts some positive things so you have to out trump that with some more negatives. That is not appreciated! In the future, if you do not have something positive to say then send the poster a PM to express your views.

Regarding about playing the top teams on the road - that was another low blow comment imho. Are/were you a D1 baseball player? If not, maybe you do not appreciate how much talent it takes to get on the same field with UT or the like and I don't care if that is on Mars. If you are/were, please keep these type of comments to yourself next time.

ClevelandDad,

RIF. This young man has not chosen a school. I think I know more about what goes on in the Metroplex baseball scene than you do. I didn't put down the baseball program. TCU has built a nice new stadium in the last couple of years. UT-Arlington has upgraded it facility somewhat. What you need to understand is DBU is basically a commuter school. I was trying to give the lady a realistic view of what the school really looks like. I've lived twenty minutes from there for the last thirty years. Most people that haven't even set foot on the campus or know anything about the history of Patriots (nee Indians) baseball are giving all kinds of advice. I usually have a pretty good handle on what is happening with the three D-1 schools in the DFW area. Not as much as I used to because the people I knew have left.

Yes, I know what kind of talent takes to get to the D-1 level. I've seen kids leave a school such as UT-Arlington where they got much playing time and make the big switch to UT-Austin and ride the pine. Baseball is a way to get an education. Don't forget that's the reason you're in school for. It's not like high school. It comes at you fast.

Like I said earlier, I wish the young man all the luck in the world. But, remember there are no guarantees. A pat on the back is nice, but sometimes a kick in the seat of the pants works better.

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I guess we'll see for ourselves. Visit scheduled. Thanks, Everyone.

Willie - that's the BEST way! GOOD LUCK!!

I will tell you they have grown tremendously. It is not a "commuter school" by any means. When three big 'ole baseball boys have to share a TINY space because there are SO MANY living on campus, that says something for the growth and development. I'd say that's pretty reputable! Be sure and check out the cool town homes that went in adjacent to the baseball clubhouse when you go too.

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Originally posted by Long_Live_Baseball:
Willie - that's the BEST way! GOOD LUCK!!

I will tell you they have grown tremendously. It is not a "commuter school" by any means. When three big 'ole baseball boys have to share a TINY space because there are SO MANY living on campus, that says something for the growth and development. I'd say that's pretty reputable! Be sure and check out the cool town homes that went in adjacent to the baseball clubhouse when you go too.

I decided to put my money where my mouth is. I got the opportunity to go out to the campus today. They have really done some major improvements to the school. I apologize for the misinformation earlier. I haven't had a chance to see DBU play at their field lately since they don't play on Sundays and some of the teams they have scheduled at home don't really make me want to go out and see a ballgame to be honest. They are blowouts for the most part.

I also took timeout to talk to former players Lance Broadway (drafted by the White Sox not Giants) and Austin Thorton.

If baseball is your major concern, I'd go where I knew I was going to play.

And yes, it is a "commuter school" for the most part as are larger campuses as UT-Arlington and UNT in Denton. Why do you think they have such sparse attendence?

Any concerns about anything in the area, please send me a PM.

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Why do think they have such sparse attendence?

They have a lower attendance because there are only 2000 students on campus -- as opposed to 8000 at TCU and even more at UTA. (DBU publicizes enrollment at 5000, but more than half attend satellite campuses throughout the Metroplex for continuing and adult education.)

The dorms are literally bursting at the seams and they are opening new dorms and townhomes every year.

Thanks for taking the time to visit the campus. Glad you liked the improvements.

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Originally posted by Infield08:

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Why do think they have such sparse attendence?

They have a lower attendance because there are only 2000 students on campus -- as opposed to 8000 at TCU and even more at UTA. (DBU publicizes enrollment at 5000, but more than half attend satellite campuses throughout the Metroplex for continuing and adult education.)

The dorms are literally bursting at the seams and they are opening new dorms and townhomes every year.

Thanks for taking the time to visit the campus. Glad you liked the improvements.

They opened up these satellite campuses for the "commuters" and there is no room for growth on the campus because of the area on which the school sits. Many students are also international as well. They just don't have what you would call a student body that is a fan base.

I've been to much larger D1 schools and seen not much more than the parents in attendance.

So what is the problem, jh? Did they give you a parking ticket twenty years ago on your last visit? Why are you trying so hard to find negatives about a good school (and I have no ties at all to DBU)?

Good Luck to your son on all his visits.I stand by my statement that he needs to go where he is most wanted and needed.Check out who else they are recruiting at his position,who is returning at his position and obviously ask about academics and if they offer what your son wants to major in if he knows or has at least a clue *lots of kids do not know for a few years*. The early years will not matter so much as all colleges require the basic classes the first few years. It is the later years that matter. Have fun and keep your ears open to everything that is said and not said.What is not said can be just as important.I think that Dallas Baptist is a good school with a good program. It will not have the feel of a major college but that might not be what he is after anyway.Enjoy the process and good luck.

If you go to a teams stats you can see what the attendance is at each game. It can range wildly from a couple hundred to several thousand.

I just checked and they had some 500-800 in attendance at a few games.

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by CD: That is not appreciated! In the future, if you do not have something positive to say then send the poster a PM to express your views.

many who ask questions DO NOT want pages of clapping hands, and DO find pros & cons helpful in seeking further info.

many who are just reading for general info are not served by pages of clapping hands, or the threat that anything you view as negative should be secret or will be censored

you have lost your objectivity & judgement,

please lighten up, enjoy, & relinquish your moderator privledges





the over/under by some of my pm's say this post won't last 20 minutes .. won't say which I took, but am banking on traffic and/or dinner

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Originally posted by Bee>:

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by CD: That is not appreciated! In the future, if you do not have something positive to say then send the poster a PM to express your views.

many who ask questions DO NOT want pages of clapping hands, and DO find pros & cons helpful in seeking further info.

many who are just reading for general info are not served by pages of clapping hands, or the threat that anything you view as neagative should be secret or will be censored

you have lost your objectivity & judgement,

please lighten up, enjoy & relinquish your moderator privledges





the over/under by some of my pm's say this post won't last 20 minutes .. won't say which I took, but am banking on traffic and/or dinner

I hope you took the over

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Bee>...

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the over/under by some of my pm's say this post won't last 20 minutes

I agree. And righfully so. Not worth rebutting.

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righfully so. Not worth rebutting.44

thanks for the thoughtful response o44 .. hope ya didn't strain anything

kindly point out the portions of "new & pretty knowledgable poster" J Hendrix's post's that are offensive, I'll gladly eat my words, appolgize, AND return my over/under windfall

or is it just another poster CALLED OUT & intimidated by the censor


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welcome to the board J Hendrix, I appologize for the need for some to show new guys who's boss

Not sure how my question about Dallas Baptist got to this.

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Williekc...

Exactly...Never Should have.

Sorry.

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Originally posted by williekc:
Not sure how my question about Dallas Baptist got to this.

willekc,

Sorry if I caused any confusion on your part. Like I said in an earlier post, I spoke before I had complete information on campus conditions. DBU has what I would call an "Extreme Makeover" in the last couple to three years. That's why I went out there and did a look see so I could get a feel as to what everyone else was saying.

Yes, I'm sure their attendence is higher now than in years past becsuse they have kids living on the campus. They have done some things to the structure around the area of the campus that are truly amazing seeing that it sits on a hill that is black dirt. I'm sure there will be some more growth in the future.

FWIW-I never denounced the school nor it's baseball program. Until recently it was an NAIA school. Baseball and tennis were it's only sports. The school is in the process of growing athletically and academically. If your son decides to go there, he will be getting in on the ground floor for the most part.

If some had a problem if my posts, well that's life. I may be new to the forum, but I'm am not new to what constitutes the "politics" that form opinions.

Best of luck to your son.

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Originally posted by Bee>:

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righfully so. Not worth rebutting.44

thanks for the thoughtful response o44 .. hope ya didn't strain anything

kindly point out the portions of "new & pretty knowledgable poster" J Hendrix's post's that are offensive, I'll gladly eat my words, appolgize, AND return my over/under windfall

or is it just another poster CALLED OUT & intimidated by the censor


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welcome to the board J Hendrix, I appologize for the need for some to show new guys who's boss

I seemed to have ruffled a few feathers. Won't be the first time. Won't be the last.

THANKS TO ALL WHO HAVE WELCOMED ME TO THE FORUM. LOOKING FORWARD TO READING AND POSSIBLY SHARING IDEAS.

I love the game of baseball, but it's the game of life that's the hardest of all to play. I just hope all the kids understand that. When I coached, that's message I most tried to convey.

o44, that's what I thought ya never bothered to read Hendrix before letting fly

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suggested "politily correct" topic format:


P1-need info about a college program!

P2-send me a "Private Message"

P1-how? what's a private message ... ok, got it now

P1-wow, ya can't find that in a book : PM back at ya

P2-happy to help :PM back at ya

P1-thanks again :PM back at ya

P2-additional info :PM back at ya

P1-gee, I hadn't thought of that :PM back at ya

P2-suggestions from a former player :PM back at ya

P1-great stuff, very helpful :PM back at ya

P1-oops, I accidentaly deleted all your PMs, can you re-post them on the board

P2- sorry, I'm not permitted, just hand clapping and smilie faces

P3-hey, I'd like some info on that college too

P2-my finger is tired, ask P1 if he memorized it before he deleted it

P3-PM to ya, P1

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OK...Guess we'll continue the hijack (sorry williekc etal)...here is the explanation you asked for...

Yes, kept up and read all the Hendrix posts...and I have little problem with Jimi and/or his info, or your comments that you felt he was well within bounds. In fact I agree with this post...

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many who ask questions DO NOT want pages of clapping hands, and DO find pros & cons helpful in seeking further info.

Very true...many posters want a full range of opinions. I'd share that view, though i'd suggest that in SOME instances borderline comments may be better handled in a pm. But I thought that the posters who have a current or future connection to the school in question handled the thread exceptionally well. I also though after a rough start Jimi had a number of excellent and very candid posts explaining the nature of his posts and good intentions. All's well.

This however...

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...the need for some to show new guys who's boss...just another poster CALLED OUT & intimidated by the censor...you have lost your objectivity & judgment...
...relinquish your moderator privledges

I'm disappointed, you're much better/bigger than this...

...If you’re serious...then I suggest that these concerns and suggestions be sent in a PM directly to the moderator and to the site director (Mnmom)....

..If you’re not serious...then I see no constructive point to publicly attack well respected, volunteer help, and their honest and well intentioned efforts to keep us on track...

As far as "pc topics" go...Let me guess….The real pc will be the wrath of aforementioned "pm's" who will only be too happy to let me know politically incorrect and foolish I am...

And so this hijack goes....round and round...where it stops nobody knows...

No value to topic…or to baseball….

Pointless.

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