Any information? Top academic school, great campus, excellent coaches.
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Davidson is about 5 minutes from my house. My son was recruited there, but instead decided to attend another school (just TOO close to home).
We know Coach Cooke, he's an excellent coach and even better person. You'll receive good instruction.
But, you don't go to Davidson to play baseball. Though they play hard, they have very limited scholarships. You won't get a bunch of athletic money (they hardly give anyone any). You go to Davidson to get one of the best educations south of Harvard/Yale. Academics is simply outstanding.
Small, personal, beautiful campus.
BUT ... because Davidson is a bit pricey, compete in a tough Southern Conference, have very few (I think it's less than 3) baseball scholarships, you won't go to Davidson to win a baseball championship.
There is a steady trickle of players drafted out of Davidson. The program is respected. Interestingly, I don't think any were drafted after their junior years. It was after graduation.
You go to Davidson to get prepared for the REST of your life after baseball. If you use that attitude, it MAY be the best baseball school in the nation.
We know Coach Cooke, he's an excellent coach and even better person. You'll receive good instruction.
But, you don't go to Davidson to play baseball. Though they play hard, they have very limited scholarships. You won't get a bunch of athletic money (they hardly give anyone any). You go to Davidson to get one of the best educations south of Harvard/Yale. Academics is simply outstanding.
Small, personal, beautiful campus.
BUT ... because Davidson is a bit pricey, compete in a tough Southern Conference, have very few (I think it's less than 3) baseball scholarships, you won't go to Davidson to win a baseball championship.
There is a steady trickle of players drafted out of Davidson. The program is respected. Interestingly, I don't think any were drafted after their junior years. It was after graduation.
You go to Davidson to get prepared for the REST of your life after baseball. If you use that attitude, it MAY be the best baseball school in the nation.
quote:You go to Davidson to get prepared for the REST of your life after baseball. If you use that attitude, it MAY be the best baseball school in the nation.
HiHardHeat - (H3) is simply one of the most knowledgable members we have regarding the eastern, southeastern, and southern regions of our country. He knows baseball and academics. People should not hesitate to get his opinion when considering a school in these regions.
I would be interested in HiHardHeat's thoughts/opinions of Wofford College and the baseball program.
CD: Thanks for the props. Hows Ty doing? Haven't talked with you in ages.
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Wofford, like Davidson is a VERY small college.
Davidson is in a class by itself when it comes to small college academics. It's simply outstanding.
Wofford falls into a class of extremely good colleges/universities below the 5000 student level (Wofford has about 1800 I think) where the academics are extremely well respected.
Wofford is a very pretty campus and I love the field. It's in the heart of the campus. You can walk down to the field from your classroom, plop on the bank (or grab a rocking chair if you get there early) and watch baseball. Great atmosphere.
Wofford is also extremely underfunded when it comes to athletic scholarships in baseball. They get very good position players but struggle in finding depth in the pitching staff and overall team depth.
My only knock on Wofford is that, after their head coach retired this past summer, they announced a "nation-wide" search for a new head coach and then promoted the assistant coach to the head position. It's his first head coaching job, so the jury is still out. He's young and energetic, so it may be fine, but I just don't know. The SoCon is a tough conference. When WCU lost their head coach to Tennessee, they grabbed an assistant (Bobby Moranda) out of Georgia Tech.
Todd Interdonato, (28 YO new head coach) brought in Dusty Blake (App State, 2003) from Catawba College for pitching and Nick Jaksa (UNC-Asheville, 2004) from the Univ of Evansville for the hitters. That's a young staff, all from smallish colleges and none with a winning tradition. The energy should be there, but there is a lack of experience top to bottom. I expect, it will take them at least a few years to climb to the middle of the pack in the SoCon.
You'll get a great education at Wofford, they had Brandon Waring (and doing very well in the minors) drafted out of the program this past summer.
Average SAT scores at Wofford are about 1300, so expect to hit the books very hard at Wofford. I have no hesitation about recommending the college for a quality education.
Wofford plays decent competition. In the past, they loaded up the front end of their schedule with a lot of weakish snowbirds which didn't prepare them for much tougher in-conf play. Later in the season, they always play Clemson, South Carolina and have upset them in the past. With the change to the Uniform Start Date, the scheduling should probably change, so that isn't much of an issue.
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Wofford, like Davidson is a VERY small college.
Davidson is in a class by itself when it comes to small college academics. It's simply outstanding.
Wofford falls into a class of extremely good colleges/universities below the 5000 student level (Wofford has about 1800 I think) where the academics are extremely well respected.
Wofford is a very pretty campus and I love the field. It's in the heart of the campus. You can walk down to the field from your classroom, plop on the bank (or grab a rocking chair if you get there early) and watch baseball. Great atmosphere.
Wofford is also extremely underfunded when it comes to athletic scholarships in baseball. They get very good position players but struggle in finding depth in the pitching staff and overall team depth.
My only knock on Wofford is that, after their head coach retired this past summer, they announced a "nation-wide" search for a new head coach and then promoted the assistant coach to the head position. It's his first head coaching job, so the jury is still out. He's young and energetic, so it may be fine, but I just don't know. The SoCon is a tough conference. When WCU lost their head coach to Tennessee, they grabbed an assistant (Bobby Moranda) out of Georgia Tech.
Todd Interdonato, (28 YO new head coach) brought in Dusty Blake (App State, 2003) from Catawba College for pitching and Nick Jaksa (UNC-Asheville, 2004) from the Univ of Evansville for the hitters. That's a young staff, all from smallish colleges and none with a winning tradition. The energy should be there, but there is a lack of experience top to bottom. I expect, it will take them at least a few years to climb to the middle of the pack in the SoCon.
You'll get a great education at Wofford, they had Brandon Waring (and doing very well in the minors) drafted out of the program this past summer.
Average SAT scores at Wofford are about 1300, so expect to hit the books very hard at Wofford. I have no hesitation about recommending the college for a quality education.
Wofford plays decent competition. In the past, they loaded up the front end of their schedule with a lot of weakish snowbirds which didn't prepare them for much tougher in-conf play. Later in the season, they always play Clemson, South Carolina and have upset them in the past. With the change to the Uniform Start Date, the scheduling should probably change, so that isn't much of an issue.
Hihardhit
Thanks very much for your information, very nice, take a look at the new financial aid program!
In Spring 2007, Davidson became the first national liberal arts college to eliminate student loans from financial aid packages. Beginning with the 2007-2008 academic year, Davidson students now have 100 percent of their demonstrated need met entirely through a combination of grants and student employment.
My youngest son is thinking about Davison, excellent student athlete, thanks again!
Thanks very much for your information, very nice, take a look at the new financial aid program!
In Spring 2007, Davidson became the first national liberal arts college to eliminate student loans from financial aid packages. Beginning with the 2007-2008 academic year, Davidson students now have 100 percent of their demonstrated need met entirely through a combination of grants and student employment.
My youngest son is thinking about Davison, excellent student athlete, thanks again!
Thanks HHH - much appreciated info.
Didn't Wofford lead D1 in home runs in 2007?
Bobby - in addition to this info, you might want to do a search on the site for "Davidson". I'm pretty sure there was another discussion about the school.
HHH -
If this has been explained before, I apologize in advance...
I thought Division I schools gave 11.7 in scholarships (excluding Ivy and Patriot League).
Why does a school give less?
Thanks
If this has been explained before, I apologize in advance...
I thought Division I schools gave 11.7 in scholarships (excluding Ivy and Patriot League).
quote:BUT ... because Davidson is a bit pricey, compete in a tough Southern Conference, have very few (I think it's less than 3) baseball scholarships, you won't go to Davidson to win a baseball championship.
Why does a school give less?
Thanks
11.7 is the max amount of money but they don't have to give any BB scholarships.
I think some schools see the academic draw as enough to field a decent team. They may have good academic and other grants as well.
I talked to one parent at a game in Charleston from a prestigious academic school and he didn't even consider BB money. He said it was an honor to go to that school.
I think some schools see the academic draw as enough to field a decent team. They may have good academic and other grants as well.
I talked to one parent at a game in Charleston from a prestigious academic school and he didn't even consider BB money. He said it was an honor to go to that school.
Is there someplace where I can find out how many scholarships colleges give?
My guess is that they don't publish that info. That would be an interesting bit of info if it was. I don't even know how many my son's school funds but I know it is not 11.7.
I don't even think it is an appropriate question to ask a coach but maby the AD.
I don't even think it is an appropriate question to ask a coach but maby the AD.
Thanks for the info!
quote:Originally posted by justaflmom:
HHH -
If this has been explained before, I apologize in advance...
I thought Division I schools gave 11.7 in scholarships (excluding Ivy and Patriot League).quote:BUT ... because Davidson is a bit pricey, compete in a tough Southern Conference, have very few (I think it's less than 3) baseball scholarships, you won't go to Davidson to win a baseball championship.
Why does a school give less?
Thanks
Interesting question, but it relates more to a schools philosophy than anything else. You can always raise student activity fees to meet athletic scholarship goals if needed.
Davidson, though they play in a tough SoCon conference in all other sports, play in the Patriot League for football. The reason for that is that the Patriot league is entirely non-scholarship for football. Since they were not going to give out any football scholarships, the wouldn't have been competitive in the SoCon (who wants to lose 30-40 straight contests by double digits) so they bailed to a conference that met their academic goals.
It makes sense. That's their priority. You have to accept it and move on. It's obvious that, at Davidson, since they have a pretty healthy endowment, that it's a philosophical decision.
As for Wofford (since we added them to the discussion), they only have 1800 students. Meeting scholarship goals has to be balanced. Instead of investing a huge amount of money (relatively speaking) into baseball scholarships, they instead concentrate their monies in the Revenue Sports, funding their football program fully (and basketball to a lesser degree). They probably don't have the budget to fund all sports and you can't bump up scholarships in baseball without an equivalent bump in a Title IX sport (which makes sense).
Wofford did lead the nation in HR's last season. They racked up early against so weak snow-birds, but they really had some players who could rake the ball. In fact, 3 of the top 4 teams in HR's last season were from South Carolina. The field plays small. Balance that with a team ERA that approached 7.+ last season and you'll see the imbalance that is caused by too limited a number of scholarships. They have trouble recruiting the necessary pitching.
Opportunities are there, that's for sure.
HHH
Actually Davidson plays football in the Pioneer Football League not the Patriot League. Probably similar in philosphy towards scholarships.
Actually Davidson plays football in the Pioneer Football League not the Patriot League. Probably similar in philosphy towards scholarships.
quote:Originally posted by jmepop:
HHH
Actually Davidson plays football in the Pioneer Football League not the Patriot League. Probably similar in philosphy towards scholarships.
Yep ... Sorry about that. Same philosophy though .. no football scholarships.
quote:Originally posted by justaflmom:
Is there someplace where I can find out how many scholarships colleges give?
I raised the same question here:
Fully funded vs partial scholarships
Thanks! I did more searching and found some more great threads. Sorry to raise a previously asked question. You guys are great! 
No need for apologies! I simply knew where to point to help you out. I don't think the question is answered there either but it might help get a better understanding.
