Defensive indifference

Well, once again the published rules are pretty clear. OBR 10.06 "(b) When, with one or more runners on base, the batter advances more than one base on a safe hit and the defensive team makes an attempt to put out a preceding runner, the scorer shall determine whether the batter made a legitimate two-base hit or three-base hit, or whether the batter-runner advanced beyond first base on the fielder’s choice."

So, by rule, it is termed a fielder's choice.

Actually "defensive interference" isn't a scoring term. OBR 10.07 "(g) The official scorer shall not score a stolen base when a runner advances solely because of the defensive team’s indifference to the runner’s advance. The official scorer shall score such a play as a fielder’s choice."

Searching the PDF file of Rule 10 shows that a lot of things are properly termed fielder's choice. However, I think most people perceive a difference between a decision to not attempt to put out any runner versus a decision to play on one runner rather than some other runner. So for the specific situation of ignoring a runner's advance, I think that "defensive indifference" is a reasonable description. If the defense is making some kind of play, then fielder's choice is more appropriate.

Related to your original play, if the defense played on the runner at second while R2 scored, Rule 10.04 has the following:
"(c) The official scorer’s judgment must determine whether a run batted in shall be credited for a run that scores when a fielder holds the ball or throws to a wrong base. Ordinarily, if the runner keeps going, the official scorer should credit a run batted in; if the runner stops and takes off again when the runner notices the misplay, the official scorer should credit the run as scored on a fielder’s choice."

I also use Scorekeeper - while technically as far as official scoring rules I believe fielder's choice is correct, to keep an accurate record of what happened for myself, I would use Advance On Throw for this situation.

Dan

Thanks, guys. I think I undersand the fielder's choice logic. And, I never realized "advance on throw" was an option in SK. Needless to say, I'm taking a closer look at the advance/out options when moving runners around the bases using Scorekeeper.

Related question: Runner is stealing, pitch is in dirt, catcher goes down to block and therefore makes no play.

WP? Or FC?

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Originally posted by Rob Kremer:
Related question: Runner is stealing, pitch is in dirt, catcher goes down to block and therefore makes no play.

WP? Or FC?

If the runner is as you say stealing, it’s a steal.

OBR - 10.07 Stolen Bases And Caught Stealing
The official scorer shall credit a stolen base to a runner whenever the runner advances one base unaided by a hit, a putout, an error, a force-out, a fielder's choice, a passed ball, a wild pitch or a balk, subject to the following:
(a) When a runner starts for the next base before the pitcher delivers the ball and the pitch results in what ordinarily is scored a wild pitch or passed ball, the official scorer shall credit the runner with a stolen base and shall not charge the misplay, unless, as a result of the misplay, the stealing runner advances an extra base, or another runner also advances, in which case the official scorer shall score the wild pitch or passed ball as well as the stolen base.

Do you have a copy of OBR, plus a copy of the rules you’re scoring under? Almost all question like that are answered in Rule 10 or its equivalent.

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Originally posted by SKeep:

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Originally posted by Rob Kremer:
Related question: Runner is stealing, pitch is in dirt, catcher goes down to block and therefore makes no play.

WP? Or FC?

If the runner is as you say stealing, it’s a steal.

OBR - 10.07 Stolen Bases And Caught Stealing [i]OBR - 10.07 Stolen Bases And Caught Stealing
The official scorer shall credit a stolen base to a runner whenever the runner advances one base unaided by a hit, a putout, an error, a force-out, a fielder's choice, a passed ball, a wild pitch or a balk, subject to the following:
(a) When a runner starts for the next base before the pitcher delivers the ball and the pitch results in what ordinarily is scored a wild pitch or passed ball, the official scorer shall credit the runner with a stolen base and shall not charge the misplay, unless, as a result of the misplay, the stealing runner advances an extra base, or another runner also advances, in which case the official scorer shall score the wild pitch or passed ball as well as the stolen base.

Do you have a copy of OBR, plus a copy of the rules you’re scoring under? Almost all question like that are answered in Rule 10 or its equivalent.