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My son is a Junior at a small, private high school and plays catcher. He wants to play Div. 3 baseball but is not Ivy League and has no aim to play beyond college. (right now, he's got a 3.6 GPA and a 28 ACT). I see a lot of info about Div. 1 timelines, recruiting, getting scholarship $ etc. but what about Div. 3.? 

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In my experience, the more aggressive national D3's begin recruiting junior year but the majority recruit the spring/summer between junior and senior year all the way up to the usual Nov 1 Early Decision deadline (senior year).  There is a lot of leeway and less structure with D3 recruiting, but still a lot to consider in the grand scheme of things.

Good luck!

In general, if your son needs help with Admissions to get into a more competitive school (than he would otherwise consider) the Coach may be able to help.   With that help (in most cases) the Coach will want him to apply ED as a form of committment.   If your son is competitive or exceeds the Admissions requirements then he has some decisions to make.  For the most part it comes down to leverage and options.....who has it and how do they want to use it.  There are many people on this board who have applied to many D3 schools RD and walked on with no guarantee of a roster spot.   There are also many who have applied ED and guaranteed themselves a roster spot.  A lot of it is understanding the coach and the situation.   D3 can vary greatly, and the advice you can receive on this board is priceless with regard to specific D3 schools.  

A lot of higher end D3 prospects are also mid major D1 prospects. The D3 programs have to wait for the entire recruiting process to shake out. If the prospect doesn't have a D1 verbal by the end of the summer showcases and tournaments the D3s swoop in. They will ask their top prospects to apply ED. It's as close to a commitment as a D3 can make.

The thing to watch out for at the D3 level is an invitation to walk on. Remember, the best prospects were asked to apply ED. And chances are the coach walked the application through admissions. Everything else is a free for all gamble. D3 s can roster as many players as they wish. It doesn't do much good to be player #40 when only about eighteen to twenty players get reasonable playing time. Or if the coach is limiting the roster size to find out you're one of twenty five walk on competing for two roster spots.

Theres a saying that applies to every level. Go where you are loved, not where they just show interest. Make a business plan. Pick target schools. Email them. Find out where to get in front of them. Select the best events you can afford combined with executing your plan.

BROC,

We are also a California family with a 2012 D1 and a soon to be 2016 D3 player.  The process was a bit different for each, but there were more similarities, particularly upfront.

Creating a vetted list of target schools, i.e., schools where your son could be admitted AND could play baseball, was a starting point for us.  That's the list of schools the player is pursuing.  None were a slam dunk for both admission or Spring roster spot, but all were "possible" for both.

Then it's getting in front of those schools (Admissions and baseball staffs), e.g., email, letters, phone calls, showcases, camps, campus visits, online Admissions and baseball profiles, etc.  "Demonstrated interest" by the player is very important, particularly for a player who's not a "must have" talent.  Now is a great time to start for a high school Junior with D3 schools. 

My 2016 had a dozen D3 coaches offer him a Spring 2017 roster spot.  He turned down 5 of those schools and applied to the remaining 7 (1 ED, 5 EA, 1 RD).  Despite support with Admissions by the Head Coach, he was denied at the ED school which was the biggest academic stretch by far.  "Support" doesn't mean guarantee at this level.  He's been admitted at all five EA schools.  He really likes the RD school, but they didn't offer EA so he's in the regular pool. 

Had the ED school accepted my 2016, he would've been done with this process in December.  If he accepts one of the EA schools, then he'll be done now.  If it ends up being the RD school, then he's done in March.  The bottom line is your player is roughly 11-14 months from being done with this process so timing is essential to start now.

Also, a 28 ACT (and perhaps a greater score coming?) will open doors for many schools if the baseball talent is there.  Higher is better of course. 

Best of luck!!! 

fenwaysouth posted:

...all the way up to the usual Nov 1 Early Decision deadline (senior year).  There is a lot of leeway and less structure with D3 recruiting, but still a lot to consider in the grand scheme of things.

Broc, in some cases the Early Period of NLI Signing (mid November) also comes into play. Recruits who are hoping to sign a DI NLI will wait until the Early Period ends with no offer before committing to a D3. 

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Broc - you're getting great advice, but the one piece of the puzzle missing so far is getting your son in front of those D3 schools.  Unless he's already on a travel team getting plenty of exposure, most folks here with D3 kids recommend attending  one or both of the following this coming summer:

http://www.headfirsthonorroll....l-showcase-camps.asp

http://www.stanfordbaseballcamp.com/

 

 

Broc3248 posted:

Wow! What great responses! I can see I have a lot more reading to do...

On the showcases, we live in California and he's signed up for the Sacramento Head First showcase in June ...anyone's thoughts on attending the August Long Island one, too? And I've heard the Stanford camp is more about DI or II coaches attending.

 

My son only attended Stanford camp and received interest from a very strong academic D3 that saw him there. He is now just waiting for admissions to see if he gets in. He is also the coaches first support on the list so we will see how much weight if any the coach has. 

Broc3248 posted:

Wow! What great responses! I can see I have a lot more reading to do...

On the showcases, we live in California and he's signed up for the Sacramento Head First showcase in June ...anyone's thoughts on attending the August Long Island one, too? And I've heard the Stanford camp is more about DI or II coaches attending.

 

D3s typically have limited budgets for travel. There are a lot of quality academic D3s in the east. If going across country for college is viable he should attend the LI Head First. Check out the schools in the NESCAC and Centennial Conference. 

My 2016LHP just committed to a D3 this evening. He had been talking to several schools but was looking more for an academic fit than baseball fit. Between visits and playing summer ball on college campuses, we visited over 30 schools. He realized early on if he wanted to play baseball he was probably a D3 kid because he still has some growing to do.

I can tell you his favorite coach is not at the school he committed to because it just didn't feel right to him. He was down to two schools but leaning to one of them because of academics. The coach of his coach offered him a roster spot and he took him up on his offer.

Congrats to your son and its never too early to begin looking or too late to be recruited. You just got to get in front of coaches.

JBoss posted:

My 2016LHP just committed to a D3 this evening. He had been talking to several schools but was looking more for an academic fit than baseball fit. Between visits and playing summer ball on college campuses, we visited over 30 schools. He realized early on if he wanted to play baseball he was probably a D3 kid because he still has some growing to do.

I can tell you his favorite coach is not at the school he committed to because it just didn't feel right to him. He was down to two schools but leaning to one of them because of academics. The coach of his coach offered him a roster spot and he took him up on his offer.

Congrats to your son and its never too early to begin looking or too late to be recruited. You just got to get in front of coaches.

JBoss - Congratulations to your son with his committment tonight!!!!!  Well done.

Branson Baseball posted:

Go where the schools on your son's vetted list will be. 

HF Sac & HF LI were much better for my 2016 than Stanford. Stanford was a lot of fun. But far fewer coaches compared to HF. 

Branson - can you elaborate why HF's were better for your son?  PM is fine...  I have a 2018 and we'll be hitting the Stanford All Star Camp, then likely a HF (but maybe the Jupiter HF in NOV).

And don't forget this, still the best advice I know: go to the school you like the most that wants you the most. Both of our sons played D-III baseball-one was a 4 year all conference player and the other played very little, but adores the game and became the captain of the dugout, complete with assigning "fun demerits" and the like. Both loved their experiences and we vicariously did as well.   There is a "pureness", for lack of a better word, at D III schools when you know they are playing for the love of the game...because there ain't no money. Of course D I and D II guys love the game just as much, but D III is just different in a good way.   Not sure my oldest would have hung in there for 5.1 years academically but he had to stay eligible to play the game he loved, got his degree (finally...), and is very successful in the business world.    (and as for the level of talent, plenty of talent at D III level-3  D III guys off of our summer league team, all pitchers, have been drafted, all 3 threw low 90's with control.)

Get that ACT above 30 and more academic D3 doors open... GPA is always tough because it really depends on the HS curriculum.  A "small private" hopefully also means you have a "dedicated" guidance staff who can explain how their school relates to others. Being asked to go ED is a D3 coaches way of getting you to commit to his school and think about no others. If you need help getting in, some may even be able "assist more" in that time period. Really depends on your target school though.  Questions your son needs to ask during the process and something a HS guidance staff will understand.  Remember that when going to an academic D3 - the ability to get grants is being compared against some non-athletes perhaps coming in with 4.0+'s and 32+ ACT's.  If there's AP courses at your HS - those are good to have in your back pocket. I think a lot of schools are going the way of the common app with perhaps school specific writing prompts.  See if you can find out what those are and think ahead how/what to write about. Good luck and enjoy the ride/process!

JBoss posted:

My 2016LHP just committed to a D3 this evening. He had been talking to several schools but was looking more for an academic fit than baseball fit. Between visits and playing summer ball on college campuses, we visited over 30 schools. He realized early on if he wanted to play baseball he was probably a D3 kid because he still has some growing to do.

I can tell you his favorite coach is not at the school he committed to because it just didn't feel right to him. He was down to two schools but leaning to one of them because of academics. The coach of his coach offered him a roster spot and he took him up on his offer.

Congrats to your son and its never too early to begin looking or too late to be recruited. You just got to get in front of coaches. 

JBoss posted:

My 2016LHP just committed to a D3 this evening. He had been talking to several schools but was looking more for an academic fit than baseball fit. Between visits and playing summer ball on college campuses, we visited over 30 schools. He realized early on if he wanted to play baseball he was probably a D3 kid because he still has some growing to do.

I can tell you his favorite coach is not at the school he committed to because it just didn't feel right to him. He was down to two schools but leaning to one of them because of academics. The coach of his coach offered him a roster spot and he took him up on his offer.

Congrats to your son and its never too early to begin looking or too late to be recruited. You just got to get in front of coaches.

Congrats to your son. In the Fall of last year my 2016 also verbally committed to a DIII school in PA. Lots of interesting twists and turns. I feel it was being in the right place at the right time. Very fortunate since there were many coaches from a number of schools who did not see him good enough for their program. There is a fit if you are willing to do the work and get in front of schools and coaches. Wish your lefty a lot of luck.

One thing about the D3 gig that can drive a parent nutty: The Spring roster isn't finalized until very late. I see that this week, even with opening games just a few days away, many D3s still have 2015 rosters up on the websites. At son's D3, they are STILL adjusting who's on and not on the Varsity team. When 60+ show up each Fall...it's a loooong winnowing process. Getting the team jersey is one thing: Getting on the travel team is another. Roster's in a constant state of flux. Which, given injuries, eligibility issues, etc., I guess is true at all divisions though. 

Broc3248 posted:

Branson - you can reply on this thread if you want -  the more info for me, the better.

BTW- My son did the Stanford Pitchers/Catchers in Dec. of Sophomore year and that was very helpful. 

I'm not Branson, but Stanford was really just a non-starter for us (opposite side of the country, and at the point where he was seriously ready to showcase, just not possible timing-wise).  We did have plans for potentially doing a HF event (probably the LI one), though those were also problematic travel/timing-wise, but didn't end up doing it because we found a Top96 event close enough to be much more palatable, and with coaches from enough schools he was interested in that we figured we could gauge the necessity of doing HF after attending it.  He got significant interest from several of his target schools at the Top96, and ended up committing to one of them in the fall of his senior year (the showcase was in July).

If it helps any, my son was quite high on the high academic side, and relatively run of the mill on the athletic side, so he had his sights set squarely on DIII from the beginning.

Al Pal posted:

One thing about the D3 gig that can drive a parent nutty: The Spring roster isn't finalized until very late. I see that this week, even with opening games just a few days away, many D3s still have 2015 rosters up on the websites. At son's D3, they are STILL adjusting who's on and not on the Varsity team. When 60+ show up each Fall...it's a loooong winnowing process. Getting the team jersey is one thing: Getting on the travel team is another. Roster's in a constant state of flux. Which, given injuries, eligibility issues, etc., I guess is true at all divisions though. 

Want to echo this one strongly.   It's especially complicated when there is a JV team to boot -- which is another thing to look out for.    On my son's team it looks like not a single freshman position player  will make the varsity, at least not initially, this year.   Injuries and blown opportunities might change that.  But who knows?   Some frosh pitchers might well get some innings on varsity, though.   As  of now I gather that 16-17 pitchers total are still in the mix for the varsity.  No way that many play and get consistent innings.   Another school in our conference has their 2016 roster up, but it doesn't (yet) include a single freshman -- and I don't think this school has a JV team to absorb the frosh.   I'm assuming it's still up in the air which frosh make the team.  Season starts next week in these parts. 

Al Pal posted:

One thing about the D3 gig that can drive a parent nutty: The Spring roster isn't finalized until very late. I see that this week, even with opening games just a few days away, many D3s still have 2015 rosters up on the websites. At son's D3, they are STILL adjusting who's on and not on the Varsity team. When 60+ show up each Fall...it's a loooong winnowing process. Getting the team jersey is one thing: Getting on the travel team is another. Roster's in a constant state of flux. Which, given injuries, eligibility issues, etc., I guess is true at all divisions though. 

I've said it before, and this seems like a good time to say it again:

D3 baseball breaks just as many hearts as D1--they just wait until the players get to campus to do it.

FWIW, in my experience at the high academic schools, the product sought by the player is a spot on the coach's list he submits for admissions.  The price for that spot is a commitment to go ED in November of the senior year. Regardless of your target schools, if I could offer one piece of advice, it would be to educate yourself on the process, understand the specific programs you are targeting  in terms of roster spots and general size of the roster, and then most importantly educate your son on how the D3 recruiting game is played.  He needs to know exactly what pointed questions to ask and what the answer means for him on his own.  it is preferable to let your son have all of the communications with the coaches and if he does not understand how D3 recruiting, ED, and admissions works he will come out of meetings with the coaches in the dark and that can be frustrating.   While many of the schools are similar in how they do things, no two are alike in how they run their programs and it can be tricky for a 17-year-old to figure out what to ask.  Many coaches will be very direct and to the point, others who either are not as sold or just not great communicators will speak in code and waffle.  If your son is armed with the tools to find out from a coach specifically where he fits into the program in terms of a guaranteed roster spot or a chance to try-out, and what the coach is willing to do with him in admissions, then the process will go much smoother.    

I echo the earlier sentiment that he should also try to get the ACT up a little as well it can mean merit money and/or a new academic opportunity for your son.

 

SD that sucks!  But I guess if the frosh develop and have fun playing JV then who knows, in  a year or two you could be posting about what a great experience it was for your boy and how well he's doing on Varsity.

 

OTOH if my kid plays D3 I may try to nudge him away from programs with JV teams unless the academic match is perfect.

There's a lot of great info here so far.  Lots to absorb!

We've been to this rodeo twice now.  Some words of wisdom we've picked up along the way...

- Player "wants" a Spring varsity roster spot guaranteed.  Some coaches won't do it.  We had a couple coaches challenge my 2016 to tryout in the Fall..."are you afraid of competition?"  No he's not.  But all things being equal, he wants to go where he will be on the Spring roster with a shot at playing.  Beyond that, we understand there are no guarantees.

- Commit to the school where you are loved, and where you will love to be.  With both a 2012 and a 2016 they've been "liked" a lot, but when they've been loved it was way more obvious.

- For college camps and showcases, go where the schools on your vetted list will be.  This is particularly true the Summer between Junior and Senior high school years.  Why waste time and money somewhere else?  Why waste time chasing schools where the player can't make the roster or can't make it in Admissions? 

- "Demonstrated interest" is key in college admissions.  There's lots of ways to do it.  It's also very important with college coaches when the player is part of the big pile of kids who are "interchangeable", i.e., somewhat similar abilities.  I hate to say it that way.  My 2012 had national D1 skills.  My 2016 is a phenomenal kid, and his baseball tools are not necessarily impact skills.  He's part of the big middle.  Excellent high school player looking for a college opportunity.

There's always threads on Stanford, HF, PG, Showball, etc.  I've probably posted thoughts on some of those.  My 2 cents for whatever it's worth and it's just IMHO.  My boys did the Future Stars, All Star, and a pitching/catching camp.  My boys did HF Jupiter and HF Long Island, one also did HF Sac. 

Stanford Futures and All Star are really fun camps.  Coach Stotz is a wonderful guy.  It's a blast to stay in the dorms (some of the camps have this residential option).  Instruction was solid.  It was very cool to play on the sunken diamond and to see the player's picture projected on the big screen.  Roughly 35-50 schools.  Some are high academic.  Some (Kansas, Butte JC, Abilene Christian...) not so much or at all.  For some high academic kids, schools on their lists will be at Stanford.   The camps had way too many players IMO.  We didn't care for moving around to the off site fields...typically just a handful of coaches there.  We didn't care for the assessments provided by the team coach...we found Perfect Game assessments to be much more accurate and useful.  

For college recruiting visibility for a potential "academic" D1 or D3 player, IMHO Headfirst is the best.   It has the most coaches present in a reasonably broad range of "academic" schools, from Kalamazoo College to Amherst and pretty much everything in between.   Access (players communicating with coaches) is encouraged and expected.  All four fields (Long Island and Jupiter) and the two fields (Sacramento...highly recommended) are together.  Every coach is there and all will observe the showcase. 

As always, go where your schools will be.  Happy to PM with anyone.  Good luck!!!

 

    

JCG posted:

SD that sucks!  But I guess if the frosh develop and have fun playing JV then who knows, in  a year or two you could be posting about what a great experience it was for your boy and how well he's doing on Varsity.

 

OTOH if my kid plays D3 I may try to nudge him away from programs with JV teams unless the academic match is perfect.

Hey  JCG:

If we had it to do over,  we would definitely think hard before committing to a D3 school with a JV team, especially one that habitually places most freshman on JV.   Not saying we would definitely rule it out, but we  wouldn't definitely rule it in either, not  without asking some hard questions and taking a serious look at certain issues. 

 JV teams are no lose propositions for coaches.  It enables them to have a pretty large total roster, while still giving the younger and  perhaps less ready for prime-time players some actual playing time, against actual college competition, rather than just practicing and suiting up and sitting and not traveling to away games. 

Whether it's a good deal for a player is another question.   To decide that I would press the coach on whether JV is just a ticket to oblivion for most players or a true stepping stone toward a real future with the team.   If it's the former definitely skip it.  If it's the latter it  might be worth it  -- at least if the  alternative is being low on the varsity depth chart somewhere  where you may  practice but never travel and seldom play.   

Part of what you have to pay attention to to determine the answer is the  ebb and flow of the roster over time.   For example, at  my son's school the current crop of junior and senior outfielders  -- who are quite talented as a bunch, and one of deepest parts of the team as a whole, i gather  --  had opportunities to make contributions early on because of the relative dearth of upperclassmen when they came in.   This year's crop of incoming OF'ers clearly will have nothing like the same early opportunities that those guys had.   There is only one sophomore at present ahead of them, though, so they are all hoping that their day will come.    Two seniors leave the system after this year.  And some of the upperclassmen  ahead of them, though not without talent,   have been used very, very sparingly.  One surmises that they may have less upside in the long run than some of this years frosh.  They aren't being asked to play a large role now.  

This year's frosh  came in and had to compete with 7 returning upperclassmen and a couple of  junior transfers, though only one of the transfers made the team,  in the end.  Those are very daunting odds. I gather from my son and from looking over various profiles that  three of the frosh can  flat out play, though,  and might well be somewhere on a varsity depth chart if they had gone elsewhere.  

 On a related note, from what I've been able to glean only  two players (out of 13, I think)   from last year's JV are  on the varsity this year and none return to the JV as sophomores  (last year the JV had a combination of sophomores and frosh,)    Some of last year's JV OF'ers tried out, but were cut.  Some seem to have seen the writing on the wall and hung it up or maybe transferred.    Looking back over the last several years, this pattern seems  fairly typical.  From reading bios, it is clear that a small but sort of steady  stream of players have spent frosh year on the JV and went on to sometimes quite strong careers as upperclassmen.   But those with that trajectory  seem to be the exception rather than the rule. 

Don't know if it's the same at other places.  One thing about my son's school that may differ  from other more academically elite D3's  is that they seem to attract a fair number of  transfers, especially from local JC's in the area, but there are also a few D1 and D2 drop downs.     I gather that  6 transfers will make the varsity this year (including one D1 drop down and one D2 drop down and 4 JC transfers).   Such players obviously provide strong and direct competition for JV players hoping to rise -- and even for returning varsity players,  as a few of those were cut too.  It could be that this particular school,  as a good but not utterly elite academic institution,  may be able to  recruit more  transfers of a wider variety than are accepted at the very highest caliber academic D3's.    

Bottom line,  having a JV team is great for the coaches  -- since it enables them to stockpile talent and gives them the luxury of bringing younger players along at a slower pace  and enabling them to take a longer look at their talents without having to rely heavily on them or really commit to them.   It's great for the school, too, cause it helps get more paying customers through the door.   But it's clearly a much more dicey proposition for the player.   It significantly  ups the number of guys you have to compete with.  Especially if you throw a stream of  transfers into the mix along with  a constant stream of incoming frosh who can play, it's makes for an intensely competitive environment  with possibly long odds against success.   

It occurs to me that it may be a little like what was going on at the  D1 level before the roster limits were set to the current 35.  

Just my two cents, as a parent whose eyes have been opened a bit by this experience.  

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SluggerDad posted:

 JV teams are no lose propositions for coaches.  It enables them to have a pretty large total roster, while still giving the younger and  perhaps less ready for prime-time players some actual playing time, against actual college competition, rather than just practicing and suiting up and sitting and not traveling to away games.  

Are JV players considered part of the team, thereby losing a year of eligibility?

Any idea how many of those JV freshmen who didn't make the team as sophomores are still at the school?

Keep this in mind. While a kid is "developing" on the. JV team he faces an additional class of recruited freshmen the following year. About six of these freshmen each year are highly recruited and more likely to be on varsity. How highly regarded is a recruit? Did the coach ask him to apply ED?

A friend of my son was told if he's admitted he will be on the team. He wasn't told to apply ED. He applied ED. He was wait listed. He was eventually admitted. He sat for four years. Fortunately from an academic standpoint it was his dream school.

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MidAtlanticDad posted:
SluggerDad posted:

 JV teams are no lose propositions for coaches.  It enables them to have a pretty large total roster, while still giving the younger and  perhaps less ready for prime-time players some actual playing time, against actual college competition, rather than just practicing and suiting up and sitting and not traveling to away games.  

Are JV players considered part of the team, thereby losing a year of eligibility?

Any idea how many of those JV freshmen who didn't make the team as sophomores are still at the school?

The eligibility clock starts ticking. They have five years to play four. From what I've been exposed to if D3 kids don't work out they bag baseball as opposed to transferring. I've seen some find a summer semi pro league to play.

RJM posted:
MidAtlanticDad posted:
SluggerDad posted:

 JV teams are no lose propositions for coaches.  It enables them to have a pretty large total roster, while still giving the younger and  perhaps less ready for prime-time players some actual playing time, against actual college competition, rather than just practicing and suiting up and sitting and not traveling to away games.  

Are JV players considered part of the team, thereby losing a year of eligibility?

Any idea how many of those JV freshmen who didn't make the team as sophomores are still at the school?

The eligibility clock starts ticking. They have five years to play four. From what I've been exposed to (son's former travel and high school teammates) if D3 kids don't work out they bag baseball as opposed to transferring. I've seen some find a summer semi pro league to play.

 

MidAtlanticDad posted:
SluggerDad posted:

 JV teams are no lose propositions for coaches.  It enables them to have a pretty large total roster, while still giving the younger and  perhaps less ready for prime-time players some actual playing time, against actual college competition, rather than just practicing and suiting up and sitting and not traveling to away games.  

Are JV players considered part of the team, thereby losing a year of eligibility?

Any idea how many of those JV freshmen who didn't make the team as sophomores are still at the school?

Don't know how many are still at the school, but I gather something like 2/3 of them tried out in the fall -- don't know about the others.  2 were kept and are on varsity.  Yes JV players lose a year of eligibility.  

RJM posted:

The eligibility clock starts ticking. They have five years to play four. From what I've been exposed to if D3 kids don't work out they bag baseball as opposed to transferring. I've seen some find a summer semi pro league to play.

D2/D3 student athletes have 10 total semesters to complete 4 seasons of participation, which is a little different than the D1 calendar system, but what I should have asked is, "Does that JV year count as 1 of your 4 years of participation?". From SD's response, it sounds like it does. Bummer.

MidAtlanticDad posted:
RJM posted:

The eligibility clock starts ticking. They have five years to play four. From what I've been exposed to if D3 kids don't work out they bag baseball as opposed to transferring. I've seen some find a summer semi pro league to play.

D2/D3 student athletes have 10 total semesters to complete 4 seasons of participation, which is a little different than the D1 calendar system, but what I should have asked is, "Does that JV year count as 1 of your 4 years of participation?". From SD's response, it sounds like it does. Bummer.

They do play actual games against actual college competition.    I've seen JV schedules that are as  many as 20 games and JV schedules that are as few as 6.  There is, by the way, no redshirting at D3 except for for injury related reasons. 

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SluggerDad posted:

They do play actual games against actual college competition.    I've seen JV schedules that are as  many as 20 games and JV schedules that are as few as 6.  There is, by the way, no redshirting at D3 except for for injury related reasons. 

I thought they might keep them separate from the varsity team, and treated like a club. Thanks

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