Do D1 Schools find more money?

It is amazing what some schools, and in all three divisions, can do if they really want a kid---this is why grades are so important

Also note that not all D1 school fund 11.7 scholarships. There are many D1 school funding only 7 or 8 scholarships so they depend on giving out academic funds for those that are qualified.

The answer to your question is no...and yes.

The NCAA regulates non athletic aid to the scholarshipped athlete with very strict rules and guidelines. If the athlete possesses good grades and/or high ACT/SAT scores, then yes, the school can find other monies. Without those high marks, the school is handcuffed for what it can offer the athlete outside of athletic aid.

I remember back when my son was being recruited. He applied to Wentworth, a small D3 school in Mass. He received almost a free ride academically and the coach was very excited about him coming. They came up with the tuition difference, about 3ooo, in what they called "extracurricular activity grant". My son didn't go to the school, but the point is that even a D3 can be creative if they really want too.

Thanks for the information.

I have found that many D-3 schools can be more creative than D-I and D-II programs

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Originally posted by TRhit:
I have found that many D-3 schools can be more creative than D-I and D-II programs

agree 100%.....the best monetary offer my son received was from D-III....much of the credit for this goes to my son for his National Honor Society HS academic career and a darn fine SAT....yet, the school put together some pretty fine monetary deals to make a private D-3 more competitive...

I had a local D-I coach tell me that at his funding level (7.5) that he needed athletes with academic standing who could get academic monies or athletes who did not need money (rich kids).....

I don't really agree with the perception of a DIII finding more money for you. We asked the DIII coach about helping us get more academic money from the school and he said that the NCAA watches them closely to make sure that they don't change the scholarship rules at all to give any more money to an athlete than he/she would get if they were just coming to the school for academics.

If they really want you they will find a way to improve the financial end. You are right, in most cases a coach has no influence in getting more academic money. They can find work programs that pay a player to work in his office or find tuition incentives if a player is into community service or extracurricular activities. Not related to baseball.

Equipman is right. I am surprised people suggesting there are ways around the NCAA rules.
You would be surprised how tough their guidelines are even concerning non monetary benefits.

The NCAA has nothing to do with school grants and academic monies---that is up to the individual schools---

TR if that is true why set 11.7 as max. They control what is countable and what is not. You give a guy academic money that is more than what the marks warrant you will be penalized. If you give anything to a student athlete that is not available to a non student athlete you will be penalized. Inappropriate recruiting you will be penalized.

bobble

First of all not all schools have 11.7---it is the decision of the school as to whether or not thay have the fully funded situation---many do not

All the NCAA does is say you can have up to 11.7---they cannot say you have to

As far as what schools do outisde of baseball monies is up to the schools---I know kids who were offered 80 to 90 percent at Division III and Divsiion II programs

TR tell me something I don't know. My son's school was not fully funded.
You will find that they control all aspects of benefits that athletes receive. Not only from the school but friends of the school. Alumni etc.
If a SA get academic money it had to coincide with the academic standing and that is specifically mentioned in D1 rules and I am sure all three divisions.
Like I said you would be surprised what coaches etc can't do. My son couldn't work on campus and get a free meal plan until his 2nd year because it would appear as a benefit to recruit him.
The coach who advised Equipman is telling him the facts.

There are no violations when a coach makes certain kids aware of grants or other perks that sometimes go unused. It usually comes down to how well the coach knows the sources he can pull from. Some coaches will absolutely stay away from this end ...it can be a slippery slope. It depends on the school,the coach and many other factors.

They have a dept that lets you know what grants are available. Most coaches have a rough idea but these people are fully aware of all funding.

That's right. That's why a coach will find out what's available for some players that he really wants and won't dig so deep for others. He might inquire about any grants for lefthanded Albanians whose last name starts with Z. Of course I'm kidding but some grants and scholarship monies are pretty obscure.