Does the run count?

rfc310+ posts

Never seen anything like this...

Bases loaded, no outs. Fly ball to right field. RT fielder goes to catch the ball, and the ball spins out of his glove.

Runners at 1st and 2nd take off to next base, not having seen the spinning ball caught by the same RT fielders throwing hand.

Runner at 3rd sees the ball pop out and then caught, and legally tags up and scores. Meanwhile, the ball is thrown to 2nd and then to 1st to complete the triple play.

Does the score count, under the timing rule? I understood that the runners were in a force situation, having to return to their base to continue the play. Am I wrong?

3/5/082:44 PM

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Athensump10+ posts

In the NFHS book rule 8-2-6(H). If a runner leaves a base too soon on a caught fly ball and returns in an attempt to retag then this is a time play and not a force out. If the appeal is the third out, all runs scored in advance of the appealed runner and scored ahead of the legal appeal shall count. The run would count

3/5/083:02 PM

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dash_riprock1,000+ posts

Athensump has it spot on. A force is just that - being forced to another base by a trailing runner. A runner returning to touch a base after a caught fly is not forced, even though only the base need be tagged to put him out.

3/5/083:43 PM

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505 Ump10+ posts

If the runners on 1st or 2nd were on the bag when it spun out, that is a good tag up as the rule say touched not caught.

3/5/086:30 PM

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jjk500+ posts

Yes the run would score, if before the out at 1B.
But, yes the runners are legal to leave when the Fielder "touches it", not, when it's caught.

So I gotta ask, did leave BEFORE the touch?

3/5/087:10 PM

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Athensump10+ posts

I wondered the same thing as to whether they left before the touch or the catch. If they left after the touch then it should have been runners at 2nd and 3rd with one out. Am I correct on this?

3/6/085:29 AM

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dash_riprock1,000+ posts

Yes.

3/6/086:27 AM

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biggerpapi5,000+ posts

WAIT?!?! Do I read this right?

On a fly ball, the runners tag up and have the right to proceed to the next base when the fielder TOUCHES the ball not CATCHES the ball?

Dang it. Several years ago we had runner on 3rd. Fly ball to left. Runner tagged and took off the instant the ball hit the left fielder's mitt. The fielder bobbled it two or three times before finally catching it. My runner was called out for leaving early.

I got ripped didn't I?

3/16/089:05 AM

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jjk500+ posts

You read it right and yes you were ripped off,
unless of course your R left before the "touch".

3/16/0811:08 AM

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jjk500+ posts

BPappi;
The reason I added this "unless of course your R left before the "touch". is because, did you/your team ask?

If you ask, Mr. Umpire sir, did you rule the leaving early from the "touch" or the catch"?

And he say's, "catch", you may now request him to consult his partner/s, if he has one. If after think-n it over it's still, time of the catch.

Now, you may lodge a protest for mis applying the rules.

3/16/082:56 PM

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