Dominican College Coach

Any thoughts?

I know absolutely NOTHING about this particular coach but I just finished reading "Coach" by Michael Lewis of Moneyball fame. It is a great book about his former hs bb coach. Some players loved this coach, others hated him. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. All I know is that my generation is being called "helicopter parents". For better or worse we are very involved in our childrens lives. In some cases, much too involved. Hopefully the truth will come out in this case and have a fair resolution.

Go figure! The whiners quit. The player now in pro ball thinks he's a great coach. A friend's son played at a major baseball program that expects to go to the CWS. His son said the coach had the team very united. They all thought he's an ***. But they won .... a lot. The kid has the ring.

The kid was drafted low. He's never been handed a position at any level of minors. He's never started an opening day game. But the first teammate who mentally caved in under the pressure lost their positon to him. He's at AAA now. Do you think a marginal talent (by the draft's standards) would get this far if a parent was holding his hand instead of allowing him to get mentally tough?

I have known Coach personally for a number of years and have had players in the program. In fact one our kids just did an overnite last week with them. He is one of my favorite baseball people---tought ? YES !!! but fair !!! Sometimes the kitchen gets too hot for some players---if so get out

I know nothing of what is being said but I am hopeful Coach will get back to me regarding the situation

I can say this: he has made a difference in the life of kids we sent there---some kids react to "tough" and others cry to daddy and mommy

To be honest with you all I am getting tired of all this parent stuff at the college level not to mention their HS level---time to let the boy go and cut the embilical chord---what are these "soft' kids going to do in the business world after college ?---call their daddy when they find it tough ???

Playing college ball with a tough coach is easy compared to the business world with a tough boss

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Originally posted by TRhit:
Sometimes the kitchen gets too hot for some players---if so get out

That's fair advice TR...just get out if it's not going to work...leave it at that and move on.

Just like, on occasion, coaches move on.

"If it doesn't fit...you must split!"

It happens to both players and coaches.

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Originally posted by gotwood4sale:

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Originally posted by TRhit:
Sometimes the kitchen gets too hot for some players---if so get out

That's fair advice TR...just get out if it's not going to work...leave it at that and move on.

How often do you hear of an athlete leaving a program stating "I couldn't hack it there." They have to blame someone or face reality. Blaming someone else is easier for them.

In my late 20's, I remember sitting in a bar near the office after 80% of the office was let go. I said I had never been fired before. Someone stated we weren't fired, we were RIF'ed over budgeting issues." I told them to call it whatever they want in their little world of reality, but when a company doesn't want you anymore, you're fired. They saw value in 20% of the office and we're not one of them.

Sometimes people have trouble with me. I have a bad habit of dealing in reality. I've found dealing in reality gets me back on track faster rather than working through denial.

I agree with you TG...the reality remains...

Just get out if it's not going to work...leave it at that and move on.

Like a job...no sense in hanging around if it isn't going to work out. Assessment of blame isn't necessary ...just move on.

I'm not agreeing with making a big splash about this. The coach obviously has his supporters and his detractors. If there were nothing but detractors...everywhere...then the AD would have an easy decision..."Goodbye coach." This situation doesn't match that.

What kind of checking out of the program and coach did these players and parents do before signing with this school? It wouldnt take much to find out if a coach is a disciplinarian, etc. Among other things this is a lesson in doing your homewrok.

I read the article last night and what strikes me is that he has been at the school for around 17 years. If he really was abusing players I am sure that it would have been discovered in that time.

We are turning out a generation of soft kids. We are doing it with parents being helicoptor parents, the educational system doesn't want kids to fail because it hurts their feelings and other stuff.

Coach Giannetti was cleared and has been reinstated.

http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID...EWS03/709270406/1019

That's good news...the truth prevailed.

According to the article...They confirmed that meal money was distributed the second day Dominican was in Florida. Each of the players received $10 a day.


Perhaps these might help stretch the budget?

I'll bet their new coaches feel very comfortable with these guys trying out for their teams.

Imagine how many umpires have been sued by this guy Russo for making what in his mind are questionable calls.

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One of my son's coach's favorite pieces of advice is "IF YOU WANT SOMEONE TO BLAME JUST JAM YUR FACE IN THE MIRROR!!"

That's good Dad04!

I found some travel advice for the team.

Miami Beach on $10 a Day

Otherwise, they are likely Dollar Menunaires and Lovin' It!

You learn something new everyday!

"DON’T eat Beach Chicken."

Thanks Dad04.


Just like I learned as a youngster..."Don't eat the road apples or dingleberries."

Dingleberries you say? Are we to use our imaginations on this one?

Yup...use your imagination, a clothespin, and disposable gloves. Your pet (with the possible exceptions of a boxer, a manx, or a skink) will appreciate that their smelly, overburdened tail is finally liberated from those wild dingleberries!

After returning from a vacation and reading the bashing my friend justbaseball took on an issue I raised on this board, I have a much better understanding and impression of how some can react when questioned, feel they are being challenged, or feel they are not getting what they want or deserve.
Justbb's input always made this board a better place and a place where important questions could be discussed.
No longer, I guess.
Even though that coach has been "exonerated," it clearly looks like there is more to come from the conclusion of that article.

ya hope it's just some nutty parents, but a few thoughts ...

seldom do players/former players say publicly what they would say privately

where there is smoke there is often fire

the description sounds eerily similar to another NE school where after yrs of the school fielding a constant stream of complaints, granted releases to more than a dozen players to transfer that yr, then put the coach out to pasture

Infieldad,
where did this take place? The bashing, I mean.

iheart,

It was a battle of the oldies and newbies. The word is, an oldie casually wondered into an area frequented by newbies and asked a question. Not sure how it happened, but a small ruckus broke out.
The oldie was vastly outnumbered, but alas, many experienceed oldies came to aid. The battle raged for days with oldies gaining the edge little by little, until finally woody came in AND STUCK A FORK IN IT. LOL

There was a few "newbies" who came to the aid of the "oldies". Not all the Newbies agreed with the other newbies point of view, if you know what I mean.

Wondered in or wandered in...both make sense!

Anyway..."Dinner's ready!"

What are we having?

The usual...leftovers!

Ahh. Woody leftovers again..........

Those are definitely left overs. Two and a half years worth of left overs.

Exactly, Woody needs to get serve us somethin tasty.

Blah on the leftovers!!

Filet(medium), baked sweet potato, steamed veggies and salad with ranch.

Cassoulet?
I predict a Cass Elliot reference coming soon from GW**

Nope...that would be too silly!