down time question

CTIGER....call BALCO or BB's trainer.

Talk to the folks at Rockwall. I recall reading on here they have a serious strength and conditioning off season program.

Good Luck

We have a strong weight lifting program in off season. Motto is:

Bigger
Stonger
Faster

Ctiger you have a PM

obn,

The problem at our school was the pitchers did the same heavy, back breaking workouts that the football team did. Caused my son to get one of those nasty C shots to repair some damage.
Luckily it was his non-throwing shoulder and was not major.

Train, your right I attented Rockwall last year and they do a REALLY tuff program it is spread out with everything, but the 1st 55 days is running and lifting, the weights werent major but the running was! when you lifted it was speed weight "little wieght alot of reps" it really helped me out and it payed off. gonna miss it there.

And Rockwall is going to miss you kid!

Yea yall will be fine though Coach Payne has it under control.

yea he is a good coach...like ML said though light weights and its a continuous rotation, no breaks. It works really good.

sure does, when I first moved to Rockwall I weighed about 220 lbs and going through the program i got down to about 200/205 lbs and my fastball gained a good 4 to 5 mph, of course with a little help on the side by my dad, but what I am trying to say is that it works good and its a perfect baseball workout with light weight and ALOT of running. Heavy weight only makes you stiff and is TOO hard on your arm for pitchers that is

I agree with the Rockwall guys...stronger and faster yes...bigger, not so much.

well some of them at least

Jesuit's baseball program is actually really forcing alot of light weights with tons of reps and stretching, me myself have found it WAY more productive then the past two years, and you dont have to put on massive amounts of weight to feel it. I think this is more successfull (spelling), then going to the weight room and doing 3 sets of bench and squats and leaving.

IMO

i agree with most of you on the light weight and high reps but this is the time to add some bulk and size. There will not be anymore time if it doesnt happen here during this time period.


You guys have seen most of the big 12 type college kids.
They are monsters.

We will go hard for about 18 weeks with a specific baseball weight workout.

This will call for more weight and less reps for these first 12 weeks or so. This brings me back to my original question of do any kids just take an extended amount of time off so they can hit the weghts hard and try to gain some significant strength gains..


Again we have a great fall workout with:
weightroom 3 days a week (mwf)

plyometrics and medicine ball work on tuesday and thursday

also we run sprints on tuesday and thursday and abs are done as well

Voluntary swimming 2 days a week as well in the morning..

Just a question to the experts out there...

Ctiger-

Do yourself a favor and DO NOT RELY on anyone at your school for conditioning help unless certified through a national affiliation that demands respect (American College of Sports Medicine [ACSM], or Coopers Inst.)... too many "coaches" out there preaching old workout routines... just like going to a little league game or high school game and listening to coaches tell their players to swing down and stay back, keep level shoulders during swing, squish the bug, etc...

In other words, go to someone who's primary job is working with sport-specific athletes (including by position)...

And, yes, you can play in the fall and still put on mass.... but how much mass do you want to put on?

http://www.asmi.org/

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Originally posted by Diablo con Huevos:
Ctiger-

Do yourself a favor and DO NOT RELY on anyone at your school for conditioning help unless certified through a national affiliation that demands respect (American College of Sports Medicine [ACSM], or Coopers Inst.)... too many "coaches" out there preaching old workout routines... just like going to a little league game or high school game and listening to coaches tell their players to swing down and stay back, keep level shoulders during swing, squish the bug, etc...

In other words, go to someone who's primary job is working with sport-specific athletes (including by position)...

And, yes, you can play in the fall and still put on mass.... but how much mass do you want to put on?

http://www.asmi.org/

While your at it seek out a certified nutritionist. Places like velocity have these people on staff. You will learn more in 30 minutes than several years of hearsay.

I have to totally agree with Velocity being a major contributor to knowledge, and experience in off season training. My oldest son went all summer, and was described in a TCL game this summer as "less than fleet of foot" during a radio game broadcast. Yesterday he was the only player on his college team to run a "330" (straight line pole to pole) AFTER practice in 40 seconds or less. He's a catcher/1B. The only speeding my family has ever been accused of came shortly after receiving driver's licenses.

Nutrition and quickness, with core strength building, not mass, are the most important things to concentrate on. Beach muscles only help if you are a lifeguard.

agree fungo... CORE STRENGTH.... not just because of great foundation for total body , but even as a hitter all the other body parts are just along for the ride (outside of core)...

I dont think this fall in line with old school workouts. We use a program drafted by a man named steve zawrotny he is certified with a couple of organizations such as

ccsc certified strength and condition specialists

nsca- national strength and conditoning assoc.


we have had great results with this plan.