ballboy6
of the first 100 players drafted 43 were hs players 8 were rhp, 8 were lhp,
these were the position players listed in order of first man taken by position:
Washington 2b l/r
Borchering 3b s/r
Davidson 3b r/r
Arenado 3b r/r
Mier ss r/r
Franklin ss s/r
Owings ss r/r
Givens ss r/r
Hamilton ss r/r
Diekroeger ss r/r
Baron c r/r
Joseph c r/r
Garfield c r/r
Murphy c r/r
Myers c r/r
Grichuk lf r/r
Nash lf r/r
Walla rf l/l
Tate cf r/r
Trout cf r/r
Fuentes cf l/l
Heathcott cf l/l
Williams cf l/r
Thompson cf r/r
Dugan cf s/r
Cooper cf s/r
I dont think left handed batting played a super premium over just plain hitting well or being a great athlete. It looks to me like a "nice to have" but the "must have" was plain great hitting ability... except in the case of catcher where the first catcher taken was not known for his hitting ability. The rest of the catchers are great hitters first and catchers second... except Garfield who is both a good hitter and good catcher.
Thanks playfair
PGStaff, just for fun.... I am curious, out of all the kids that were drafted from my "43 hs kids in the top 100" who went to a PG event and who did not?
playfair,
Went into our database... here is the answer.
Out of this list of the top 26 position players drafted, they have attended a total of 142 Perfect Game events. If we added the highest drafted pitchers, it would all of those too, who had attended a PG event. For that matter we could even add the college players and it would be about the same.
BTW, Here is your list...
Washington 2b l/r - 9 PG events including National Underclass Showcase and National Showcase
Borchering 3b s/r - 14 PG events including two National Underclass Showcases and National Showcase
Davidson 3b r/r - 9 PG events including Cal Underclasss Showcase/2007 Rising Juniors National Showcase/ Sunshine Showcase and National Showcase
Arenado 3b r/r - 9 PG events including Cal Underclasss Showcase/2007 Rising Juniors National Showcase/Sunshine Showcase and National Showcase
Mier ss r/r - 11 PG events including Cal Underclasss Showcase/2007 Rising Juniors National Showcase/Sunshine Showcase/08 National Showcase and National Showcase
Franklin ss s/r - 18 PG events including National Underclass/World Showcase/National Showcase
Owings ss r/r - 5 PG events
Givens ss r/r - 15 PG events including National Underclass Showcase and National Showcase
Hamilton ss r/r - 4 PG events including National Underclass
Diekroeger ss r/r - 0 PG events, the only one on this list who did not attend a PG event. PG still had him ranked.
Baron c r/r - 5 PG events
Joseph c r/r - 1 PG event
Garfield c r/r - 4 PG events including Cal Underclass showcasw/Sunshine Showcase and National Showcase
Murphy c r/r - 9 PG events including National Underclass Showcase
Myers c r/r - 7 PG events including National Showcase
Grichuk lf r/r - 2 PG events
Nash lf r/r - 9 PG events
Walla rf l/l - 1 PG event
Tate cf r/r - 13 PG events including National Showcase
Trout cf r/r - 9 PG events
Fuentes cf l/l - 2 PG events including World Showcase
Heathcott cf l/l - 6 PG events including Underclass and National Showcase
Williams cf l/r (18) - 2 PG events
Thompson cf r/r - 2 PG events
Dugan cf s/r - 1 PG event
Cooper cf s/r - 1 PG event
Here we added the HS pitchers. 42 of the 43 pitchers/players drafted in the top 100 did attend at least one PG event. For that matter we could even add the college players and it would be about the same. The 17 pitchers below attended a total of 84 PG events. All but one HS player or pitcher drafted in the top 100 picks attended at least one PG event and those 43 players attended a total of 226 PG events. Didn't get quite as complete as the position players, on the events they attended.
Here are the HS pitchers drafted in the top 100
Hobgood - 3 PG events including Cal Underclass Showcase
Wheeler - 18 PG events including National Showcase and National Underclass
Turner - 4 PG events including National Showcase and PG Indoor
Matzek - 3 PG events including PG National
Purke - 3 PG events including PG National
James - 6 PG events including PG National and National Predraft
Miller - 1 PG event
Skaggs - 2 PG events
Pounders - 12 PG events including National Underclass and PG National
Gould - 4 PG events including PG National
Berglund - 1 PG event
Eliopoulos - 1 PG event
Bushue - 3 PG events
Holmberg - 14 PG events including Academic Showcase/National Underclass/PG World and PG National
Matz - 5 PG events including Sunshine and PG National
Erlin - 3 PG events including Cal Underclass Showcase
Barrett - 1 PG event
Important Note: Before anyone gets mad about the bragging. We are not claiming that we had anything to do with these players getting drafted that high. It aint us, it’s the players and all those who helped them realize their talent. Parents, Coaches, etc.
Went into our database... here is the answer.
Out of this list of the top 26 position players drafted, they have attended a total of 142 Perfect Game events. If we added the highest drafted pitchers, it would all of those too, who had attended a PG event. For that matter we could even add the college players and it would be about the same.
BTW, Here is your list...
Washington 2b l/r - 9 PG events including National Underclass Showcase and National Showcase
Borchering 3b s/r - 14 PG events including two National Underclass Showcases and National Showcase
Davidson 3b r/r - 9 PG events including Cal Underclasss Showcase/2007 Rising Juniors National Showcase/ Sunshine Showcase and National Showcase
Arenado 3b r/r - 9 PG events including Cal Underclasss Showcase/2007 Rising Juniors National Showcase/Sunshine Showcase and National Showcase
Mier ss r/r - 11 PG events including Cal Underclasss Showcase/2007 Rising Juniors National Showcase/Sunshine Showcase/08 National Showcase and National Showcase
Franklin ss s/r - 18 PG events including National Underclass/World Showcase/National Showcase
Owings ss r/r - 5 PG events
Givens ss r/r - 15 PG events including National Underclass Showcase and National Showcase
Hamilton ss r/r - 4 PG events including National Underclass
Diekroeger ss r/r - 0 PG events, the only one on this list who did not attend a PG event. PG still had him ranked.
Baron c r/r - 5 PG events
Joseph c r/r - 1 PG event
Garfield c r/r - 4 PG events including Cal Underclass showcasw/Sunshine Showcase and National Showcase
Murphy c r/r - 9 PG events including National Underclass Showcase
Myers c r/r - 7 PG events including National Showcase
Grichuk lf r/r - 2 PG events
Nash lf r/r - 9 PG events
Walla rf l/l - 1 PG event
Tate cf r/r - 13 PG events including National Showcase
Trout cf r/r - 9 PG events
Fuentes cf l/l - 2 PG events including World Showcase
Heathcott cf l/l - 6 PG events including Underclass and National Showcase
Williams cf l/r (18) - 2 PG events
Thompson cf r/r - 2 PG events
Dugan cf s/r - 1 PG event
Cooper cf s/r - 1 PG event
Here we added the HS pitchers. 42 of the 43 pitchers/players drafted in the top 100 did attend at least one PG event. For that matter we could even add the college players and it would be about the same. The 17 pitchers below attended a total of 84 PG events. All but one HS player or pitcher drafted in the top 100 picks attended at least one PG event and those 43 players attended a total of 226 PG events. Didn't get quite as complete as the position players, on the events they attended.
Here are the HS pitchers drafted in the top 100
Hobgood - 3 PG events including Cal Underclass Showcase
Wheeler - 18 PG events including National Showcase and National Underclass
Turner - 4 PG events including National Showcase and PG Indoor
Matzek - 3 PG events including PG National
Purke - 3 PG events including PG National
James - 6 PG events including PG National and National Predraft
Miller - 1 PG event
Skaggs - 2 PG events
Pounders - 12 PG events including National Underclass and PG National
Gould - 4 PG events including PG National
Berglund - 1 PG event
Eliopoulos - 1 PG event
Bushue - 3 PG events
Holmberg - 14 PG events including Academic Showcase/National Underclass/PG World and PG National
Matz - 5 PG events including Sunshine and PG National
Erlin - 3 PG events including Cal Underclass Showcase
Barrett - 1 PG event
Important Note: Before anyone gets mad about the bragging. We are not claiming that we had anything to do with these players getting drafted that high. It aint us, it’s the players and all those who helped them realize their talent. Parents, Coaches, etc.
Mr. PG Staff brings a very good point. If you are a talented player, you want to test your skills against the very best and for the most part PG events seems to have all the best talents available at any given time. I know there are are lots more showcases/tournaments available but in my opinion PG database is the most complete one available and accessible to College/pro scouts. 
PG,
Just to clarify...when it is listed that they attended 14 events that includes tournaments like the WWBA Chamionships etc..and not 14 Showcases.
Just to clarify...when it is listed that they attended 14 events that includes tournaments like the WWBA Chamionships etc..and not 14 Showcases.
redsox8191,
Yes, that is true.
Yes, that is true.
someone asked about draft statistics so I am bumping this thread for his/her reading.
quote:Originally posted by OnWabana:
This took me a long time to compile and then when I went back through to double-check my work it didn't seem to add up exactly. They might be off + or - 2 players. But anyways these are pretty close and I will try to post exact numbers in near future:
D1- 680 players
D2- 61 players
D3- 14 players
NAIA- 47 players
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Thanks for taking the time to create the list.
Anyone have an idea why NAIA would have 3x more kids drafted than D3?
Some one will correct me if I am wrong but I am under the impression that D3 (think Chapman University) schools are high academic schools with no athletic scholarships and NAIA (think Azuza Pacific and Lewis and Clark State) schools are funded with scholarships and not tough academically to get into.
Completely different kids competing for spots in those programs.
Completely different kids competing for spots in those programs.
Many NAIA schools take in D1 transfers and many NAIA schools do offer schollys, whereas D3 does not offer athletic schollys, only non-athletic schollys. One school that has stood out at the D3 level is Wisconsin-Oshkosh, they have a notable former #1 draft the Angels took a few years back.quote:Originally posted by Vector:quote:Originally posted by OnWabana:
This took me a long time to compile and then when I went back through to double-check my work it didn't seem to add up exactly. They might be off + or - 2 players. But anyways these are pretty close and I will try to post exact numbers in near future:
D1- 680 players
D2- 61 players
D3- 14 players
NAIA- 47 players
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Thanks for taking the time to create the list.
Anyone have an idea why NAIA would have 3x more kids drafted than D3?
Has anyone run the totals on the 2010 draft to see if the breakdown of hs vs. college(and level of college) was consistent with 2009? Does anyone have any ideas whether the possible changes in the draft after 2011 (possible hard slot) will affect the number of hs players drafted this year?
2010 draft fun
4Y = 4 Year University juniors (so and sr noted)
J1= juco freshman
J2= juco sophomore
J3= juco 3rd year (someone please explain)
I have rounded up/down to nearest % so I may be +or- 1% of 100%
Round 1: 32 players total
14 4y (1 so),1 J1,17 Hs
Round 1A: 18 players total
7 4y, 0 JC, 11 hs
Round 2: 32 players total
17 4y (1sr,1so), 2J1, 13 hs
Round 3: 30 players total
16 4y (1 so), 2J2, 12 hs
Round 3A: 3 total players
1 4y, 2J2
Round 4: 30 total players
17 4y (4sr), 2JC (j1,j2), 1 no school(Paxton), 10 hs
Round 5: 30 total players
20 4Y (1sr), 1J2, 9 hs
Total through round 5:
175 players
83 4Y jr or 47%, 3 4Y so, 6 4Y sr, 10 JC (4j1, 6j2), 1 no school, 72hs
53% are 4y players, 6% are JC, 41% are hs seniors.
4Y = 4 Year University juniors (so and sr noted)
J1= juco freshman
J2= juco sophomore
J3= juco 3rd year (someone please explain)
I have rounded up/down to nearest % so I may be +or- 1% of 100%
Round 1: 32 players total
14 4y (1 so),1 J1,17 Hs
Round 1A: 18 players total
7 4y, 0 JC, 11 hs
Round 2: 32 players total
17 4y (1sr,1so), 2J1, 13 hs
Round 3: 30 players total
16 4y (1 so), 2J2, 12 hs
Round 3A: 3 total players
1 4y, 2J2
Round 4: 30 total players
17 4y (4sr), 2JC (j1,j2), 1 no school(Paxton), 10 hs
Round 5: 30 total players
20 4Y (1sr), 1J2, 9 hs
Total through round 5:
175 players
83 4Y jr or 47%, 3 4Y so, 6 4Y sr, 10 JC (4j1, 6j2), 1 no school, 72hs
53% are 4y players, 6% are JC, 41% are hs seniors.
Round 6: 30 total players
17 4y (4 sr 1 so), 2JC2 , 11 hs
Round 7: 30 total players
16 4y (4sr), 3JC (1j2,2j3), 11 hs
Round 8: 30 total players
15 4y (5sr,1so), 7JC (1j1,4j2,2j3), 8hs
Round 9: 30 total players
19 4y, (8sr,1so), 2J2, 9hs
Round 10: 30 total players
17 4Y (2sr), 5JC (1J1,4J2), 8hs
Carryover totals:
Totals rounds 1-5 = 175 players:
175 players
92 4Y (83 jr or 47%, 3 4Y so, 6 4Y sr), 10 JC (4j1, 6j2), 1 no school, 72hs
53% are 4y juniors, 6% are JC, 41% are hs seniors.
6-10 Totals:
Totals rounds 6 – 10 = 150 players
84 4Y or 56%, 19 JC or 13%, 47hs or 31%
Trends-
4Y draftees moved upwards 3% in rounds 6-10
JC draftees moved upwards 7% in rounds 6-10
Hs draftees moved downward 10% in rounds 6-10
6 4Y college seniors drafted in rounds 1-5, 23 4Y college seniors drafted in rounds 6-10
Overall rounds 1-10 totals:
Total rounds 1-10 = 325 players drafted
176 4Y or 54%, 29 JC or 9%, 119 hs or 37%, 1 no school (325)
17 4y (4 sr 1 so), 2JC2 , 11 hs
Round 7: 30 total players
16 4y (4sr), 3JC (1j2,2j3), 11 hs
Round 8: 30 total players
15 4y (5sr,1so), 7JC (1j1,4j2,2j3), 8hs
Round 9: 30 total players
19 4y, (8sr,1so), 2J2, 9hs
Round 10: 30 total players
17 4Y (2sr), 5JC (1J1,4J2), 8hs
Carryover totals:
Totals rounds 1-5 = 175 players:
175 players
92 4Y (83 jr or 47%, 3 4Y so, 6 4Y sr), 10 JC (4j1, 6j2), 1 no school, 72hs
53% are 4y juniors, 6% are JC, 41% are hs seniors.
6-10 Totals:
Totals rounds 6 – 10 = 150 players
84 4Y or 56%, 19 JC or 13%, 47hs or 31%
Trends-
4Y draftees moved upwards 3% in rounds 6-10
JC draftees moved upwards 7% in rounds 6-10
Hs draftees moved downward 10% in rounds 6-10
6 4Y college seniors drafted in rounds 1-5, 23 4Y college seniors drafted in rounds 6-10
Overall rounds 1-10 totals:
Total rounds 1-10 = 325 players drafted
176 4Y or 54%, 29 JC or 9%, 119 hs or 37%, 1 no school (325)
Round 11
15 4Y (4 sr), 2J2, 13 hs
Round 12
19 4Y (11sr), 4 JC (2J1,1J2, 1J3), 7hs
Round 13
18 4y (7sr, 1so), 6 JC (2j1, 3j2,1j3), 6hs
Round 14
16 4y (8sr, 1 so), 3 JC (1j1,1j2,1j3), 11hs
Round 15
19 4y (2so, 6sr), 2JC (1j1,1j2), 9hs
Round 16
17 4y (10 sr), 5 JC (1j1,3j2,1j3), 8hs
Round 17
16 4y (10sr), 6 JC (3j1,3j2), 8hs
210 total players drafted 11 -17
120 4y or 57% (56 sr, 2so), 28 JC or 13%, 62 hs or 29%
15 4Y (4 sr), 2J2, 13 hs
Round 12
19 4Y (11sr), 4 JC (2J1,1J2, 1J3), 7hs
Round 13
18 4y (7sr, 1so), 6 JC (2j1, 3j2,1j3), 6hs
Round 14
16 4y (8sr, 1 so), 3 JC (1j1,1j2,1j3), 11hs
Round 15
19 4y (2so, 6sr), 2JC (1j1,1j2), 9hs
Round 16
17 4y (10 sr), 5 JC (1j1,3j2,1j3), 8hs
Round 17
16 4y (10sr), 6 JC (3j1,3j2), 8hs
210 total players drafted 11 -17
120 4y or 57% (56 sr, 2so), 28 JC or 13%, 62 hs or 29%
Trends:
4Y seniors moved up consistently as rounds progressed. 6 in rounds 1-5, 23 in rounds 6-10, 56 in rounds 11-17.
JC players also moved up 10, 19 and 28 respectively
HS players moved down (probably signability) 72, 47, 62 (62 represents 7 rounds not 5)
Top 1/3 of the draft: 296 4Y (85sr) or 55%, 57 JC or 11% , 181 hs or 34%, 1 no school = 535 players drafted through rounds 17.
Notable: 16% of draftees in top 17 rounds of the 2010 draft were seniors of 4 Year colleges as compared to 11% juco players drafted in the top 17 rounds.
4Y seniors moved up consistently as rounds progressed. 6 in rounds 1-5, 23 in rounds 6-10, 56 in rounds 11-17.
JC players also moved up 10, 19 and 28 respectively
HS players moved down (probably signability) 72, 47, 62 (62 represents 7 rounds not 5)
Top 1/3 of the draft: 296 4Y (85sr) or 55%, 57 JC or 11% , 181 hs or 34%, 1 no school = 535 players drafted through rounds 17.
Notable: 16% of draftees in top 17 rounds of the 2010 draft were seniors of 4 Year colleges as compared to 11% juco players drafted in the top 17 rounds.
playfair, thanks for running the stats on the Drafts.quote:Originally posted by playfair:
2010 draft fun
4Y = 4 Year University juniors (so and sr noted)
J1= juco freshman
J2= juco sophomore
J3= juco 3rd year (someone please explain)
I have rounded up/down to nearest % so I may be +or- 1% of 100%
Round 1: 32 players total
14 4y (1 so),1 J1,17 Hs
Round 1A: 18 players total
7 4y, 0 JC, 11 hs
Round 2: 32 players total
17 4y (1sr,1so), 2J1, 13 hs
Round 3: 30 players total
16 4y (1 so), 2J2, 12 hs
Round 3A: 3 total players
1 4y, 2J2
Round 4: 30 total players
17 4y (4sr), 2JC (j1,j2), 1 no school(Paxton), 10 hs
Round 5: 30 total players
20 4Y (1sr), 1J2, 9 hs
Total through round 5:
175 players
83 4Y jr or 47%, 3 4Y so, 6 4Y sr, 10 JC (4j1, 6j2), 1 no school, 72hs
53% are 4y players, 6% are JC, 41% are hs seniors.
As far as J3, I'm not sure what you are asking, but you could have a red-shirt year at the jr college level thus giving a jr college player 3 yrs of eligibility, but there are also 3 levels of junior college competition, JC D1, JC D2 and JC D3. D3 gives no schollys at all.
I hope that clarifies your question for "please explain".
That must be it. J3 must be redshirt used sophomore. 3 off of the clock.