Surely you jest, TPM. I have never heard of anyone, anywhere encouraging alcohol intake for nursing mothers. Quite the opposite, actually.
A relative who is a fully degreed nurse specializing in pedi was appalled at the thought of nursing mothers consuming alcohol.
Back to the original thought in the thread.
Even if a kid drinks (which I would not recommend), I would not recommend him drinking on a recruiting trip.
Texan,
I said it was beer. I think Orlando got it.
I said it was beer. I think Orlando got it.
quote:Even if a kid drinks (which I would not recommend), I would not recommend him drinking on a recruiting trip.
Ditto, there Texan, Ditto.
quote:fomerly FORMberObserver part
Was on my second six pack on the couch with my wireless keyboard....................
TPM, guess that one is slipping right by me. {Not that it takes much on a Monday.}
FO aka OTW,
I find your honesty quite refreshing
I find your honesty quite refreshing
Bee,
in reference to Ohio U being pegged as the #2 party school in the USA by the Princeton Review
I heard the OU students want a recount
they're not buying Wisconsin Madison as #1
in reference to Ohio U being pegged as the #2 party school in the USA by the Princeton Review
I heard the OU students want a recount
they're not buying Wisconsin Madison as #1
Texan, I started the nursing mothers on Guiness element. In England, new mothers in hospital are offered Guiness both for the iron content and the dialation of blood vessels. I'm not surprised a US nurse would be appalled. I found many differences in the medical field there.
I have heard people say it is best to be drunk before trying to eat the food in England...
Don't be silly.
They don't have food in England.
They don't have food in England.
thanks chair, I'll pass that along -
her crowd is a bit different - - I once walked in "unannounced" on an unsupervised track/cc party that we found out about - - & I'm figuring - "I gotcha"
I found coolers full to the brim with poweraid & bottled water - - kitchen counters lined with pans of spagetti, lasagna, salsa, trail mix, and UNBUTTERED popcorn
I made some excuse about needing something from my daughter's jeep - - anyway they welcomed me to stay for the 2 Steve Prefontaine movies that they were gonna watch (4+ hrs) -
I mumbled something about meeting some friends at B'dubs for some wings & a FB game and quickly left
TPM, 20 mi west of Y'Town, 10 mi south of Kent
her crowd is a bit different - - I once walked in "unannounced" on an unsupervised track/cc party that we found out about - - & I'm figuring - "I gotcha"
I found coolers full to the brim with poweraid & bottled water - - kitchen counters lined with pans of spagetti, lasagna, salsa, trail mix, and UNBUTTERED popcorn
I made some excuse about needing something from my daughter's jeep - - anyway they welcomed me to stay for the 2 Steve Prefontaine movies that they were gonna watch (4+ hrs) -
I mumbled something about meeting some friends at B'dubs for some wings & a FB game and quickly left
TPM, 20 mi west of Y'Town, 10 mi south of Kent
quote:I heard the OU students want a recount
they're not buying Wisconsin Madison as #1
They can have all the recounts they want, it's not even close.
Which is one of the reasons my son was not allowed to apply there.
My son got his official-visit package in the mail yesterday from a school notorious for its party rep. I'm sure I read in no less than four different places in the package that they have a zero-tolerance policy for alchohol consumption (and other activities as well) by recruits and student hosts during official visits. ...not entirely clear what "zero tolerance" consequences might be, but it sounds foreboding enough.
I'm not so naive as to think it doesn't happen, or that he won't find himself in a situation where he's faced with a choice during his visit. But I have spoken with him about it, thanks in large part to this thread, and he's made it clear that he's not going to jeapordize his opportunity to play at this school just to have a beer. He can wait, and he knows how to say no without being disrespectful or judgemental. It will be interesting to learn what his actual experience in this area will be.
Film at 11:00...
I'm not so naive as to think it doesn't happen, or that he won't find himself in a situation where he's faced with a choice during his visit. But I have spoken with him about it, thanks in large part to this thread, and he's made it clear that he's not going to jeapordize his opportunity to play at this school just to have a beer. He can wait, and he knows how to say no without being disrespectful or judgemental. It will be interesting to learn what his actual experience in this area will be.
Film at 11:00...
There are place you don't show up drunk. Official recruiting visits is one of them. If the kid is not bright enough to get that, then college baseball, among other things, probably won't work out.
As in all situations know what the rules are going in. If your son finds himself in a situation that may cause trouble he has to make a decision. As parents the "we know it is going on mentality" has to be tempered with we know but you better not be involved and if you are you face the music. The college situation is much different than high school as they are on their own and sad to say drinking is glorified as a right of passage in those years.
quote:sad to say drinking is glorified as a right of passage in those years
Sad to say that it's glorified as a right of passage by many parents. Again -- mixed messages
HRDAD
As I have said on other occassions kids will do what you let them. In my youth my parents laid down the law and you better abide by it. Black and white no areas of grey. They were tough. If I screwed up I knew what was coming. There was consequences to my actions. Of course that was in the dark ages when parents were not enlightened by all the psychologists and psychiatrists who today write books telling parents how to raise their kids. How to be their friend and be mindful of their childs self esteem. Anybody can be a mother or father but it takes special people to be moms and dads.
As I have said on other occassions kids will do what you let them. In my youth my parents laid down the law and you better abide by it. Black and white no areas of grey. They were tough. If I screwed up I knew what was coming. There was consequences to my actions. Of course that was in the dark ages when parents were not enlightened by all the psychologists and psychiatrists who today write books telling parents how to raise their kids. How to be their friend and be mindful of their childs self esteem. Anybody can be a mother or father but it takes special people to be moms and dads.
Will ...
You and I must have lived in the same neighborhood growing up (I grew up in Pennsylvania) ... and we used a similar approach with our youngin' ... absolutely NO mixed messages, and he knew the basic 'law of the land' ... them that pays the bills makes the rules. We had no problems when he was in high school, and when he was in college, what he did at school out of our eyesight and earshot was between him and God. But whenever he was home for breaks, holidays, or the summer, he respected our rules until he was on his own.
HRDAD ...
quote:Of course that was in the dark ages when parents were not enlightened by all the psychologists and psychiatrists who today write books telling parents how to raise their kids
You and I must have lived in the same neighborhood growing up (I grew up in Pennsylvania) ... and we used a similar approach with our youngin' ... absolutely NO mixed messages, and he knew the basic 'law of the land' ... them that pays the bills makes the rules. We had no problems when he was in high school, and when he was in college, what he did at school out of our eyesight and earshot was between him and God. But whenever he was home for breaks, holidays, or the summer, he respected our rules until he was on his own.
HRDAD ...
There are a lot of things I learned from my parents however I must admit at the time I did not like everything but who said being a parent demanded approval from your kids. As I look at it you are stuck(for lack of a better description) with one another so make the best of it. somebody onc said it is easy to do the right thing when everybody is looking the hard part is doing the same when nobody is looking.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bee>:
bbmom,
the Topic - drinking on an official visit
MY position from the get-go has been - -
parent your kids (& 18 yr ods) to deal with the real word, communicate, be consistent, keep lovin' 'em when they make mistakes, comunicate some more
the popular position seems to be - -
outrage, cross schools off your list, iron fist (w/18 yr olds), zero tolerance, & more outrage
(or is it rage?)
AND - I have also been informed the later position is actually the "healthy view"
go figure!
Bear, clue me in on the "zero tolerance" deal regarding an 18 yr old who's about to leave home - "out of the will", or what?? (and hey, I got NO leverage there)
/QUOTE]
Quite simply if a student-athlete is drinking, and gets caught by local authorities, the school administration, or the coaches, by NCAA
and college guidelines that he/she agreed too, there the student athlete would be become a student and removed from the baseball program.
ie college has zero tolerance for underage drinking!
Regards
Bear
bbmom,
the Topic - drinking on an official visit
MY position from the get-go has been - -
parent your kids (& 18 yr ods) to deal with the real word, communicate, be consistent, keep lovin' 'em when they make mistakes, comunicate some more
the popular position seems to be - -
outrage, cross schools off your list, iron fist (w/18 yr olds), zero tolerance, & more outrage
(or is it rage?)
AND - I have also been informed the later position is actually the "healthy view"
go figure!
Bear, clue me in on the "zero tolerance" deal regarding an 18 yr old who's about to leave home - "out of the will", or what?? (and hey, I got NO leverage there)
/QUOTE]
Quite simply if a student-athlete is drinking, and gets caught by local authorities, the school administration, or the coaches, by NCAA
and college guidelines that he/she agreed too, there the student athlete would be become a student and removed from the baseball program.
ie college has zero tolerance for underage drinking!
Regards
Bear