Earned or Unearned

Batter 2 "takes the place of the unearned runner".

Not sure about GC.

That is the way that I understand the rule also RedFishFool but GC does not score it that way. So I thought I would ask around.

Not sure about the ruling, but Red Fish seems right.  As for game changer, it is pretty accurate EXCEPT for the unique situations.  This may be one of those.  I suggest contacting them. 

As RedfishFool notes, If the second runner that replaced runner who got on base on an error ends up scoring it is an unearned run (should have been 2 outs). Also, GC is good but we saw glitches as well. Son tried to score on WP from third base, GC records as caught stealing, which is shouldn't have. Runner would not have received a stolen base if he was safe at home.

Sandbggr,

What you’ve been told so far about the run being unearned if it scores is true.

As for GC’s stats, I wouldn’t trust them any more than I’d trust an SK using a scoresheet and pencil. For run-of-the-mill stuff I wouldn’t worry a lot, but on earned/unearned runs, there’s just no way any computer program can do them properly because there’s often some degree of judgment involved. I wrote my own scoring program, but I spend a lot of time double checking earned runs, unnecessary pitches, 1^st pitch strikes and 1^st pitch strike percentage, pick off attempts, errors made behind the pitcher, how the runners reached that scored, and bad pitches swung/not swung at.

Of course if you don’t’ care about any stats that come from those things, don’t worry about it!

CG didn't score it as a caught stealing, the scorekeeper did. He or she should have entered "other" as the reason for the out, and added a description.

Originally Posted by JCG:

CG didn't score it as a caught stealing, the scorekeeper did. He or she should have entered "other" as the reason for the out, and added a description.

Here’s an opportunity for me to learn something. Where in the OBR does it say to enter “other” and a description for the out in that situation?

Nowhere in my comment is any mention made of OBR. I spoke only of how one enters information in Game Changer. So you're right, it is an opportunity for you to learn something, which is that this sort of passive-aggressive, know-it-all, supercilious snark is but one example of why people around here jump on you nearly every time you join a conversation.

Originally Posted by JCG:

Nowhere in my comment is any mention made of OBR. I spoke only of how one enters information in Game Changer. So you're right, it is an opportunity for you to learn something, which is that this sort of passive-aggressive, know-it-all, supercilious snark is but one example of why people around here jump on you nearly every time you join a conversation.

Holy cow! Talk about snarky comments! How was I supposed to know you were only talking about entering something in GC? I took the time to look all through OBR because I thought I’d missed something, and when I didn’t find it, I tried to find out where what you said came from. IOW, I was trying to improve my skillset as a scorekeeper.

Your response is but one example of why I hold many “people around here” in contempt. Rather than just respond to something I say, you look for a way to make it sound contemptuous, then make cracks about it like the above. I apologize for assuming you might have something to teach me other than bad manners.  

My comments were very clearly about GC and equally clearly didn't mention OBR.

That said, if your comment is sincere, then you are right; I do owe you an apology.

But past experience requires me to take all that outrage with a large grain of salt.

Originally Posted by JCG:

My comments were very clearly about GC and equally clearly didn't mention OBR.

That said, if your comment is sincere, then you are right; I do owe you an apology.

But past experience requires me to take all that outrage with a large grain of salt.

Yes, your comment was clearly about a scorer using GC, but your solution wasn’t! The first place I go to with scoring questions is OBR because it has by far the most and best comments right in the rules. So whether you mentioned OBR or not, that’s still the 1^st place I look. If I can’t find it there, I ask where it can be found so I can learn.

My comment was sincere, but obviously it makes no difference to you since the next thing you make sure to say is that you don’t believe me based on past experience without realizing that perhaps your past experience was based on similar misjudgments of my intentions. IOW, there’s nothing in this world I’ll ever be able to do to become one of the “good ol’ boys” on this site, but the bright spot in that is, I wouldn’t want to.

The thing that caught my attention most about your post was that it was directed specifically at the boy scoring on a pitch not caught by the catcher because I had something similar happen the last game we played. We had a runner on 3^rd and a ball got past the C. Our runner took off for the plate, but for some reason stopped and started to head back to 3^rd, eventually getting tagged out by the catcher after a short rundown. After reading and re-reading the rules on stolen bases, I marked it as a CS.

If he’d just kept going and been tagged I’d have marked it as a PO for the C and no SBA or CS. But when he stopped and got in a rundown, to me it became the same thing as if he’d gotten picked off and that makes it come under 10.07(h)(2). When I read Ripken Fan’s description about his boy, I couldn’t help thinking how not being there to see the ENTIRE play makes such a big difference in how its scored.