Earned vs Unearned.

Am I way off on this.  It seems like it comes down to whether that bunt was an error or a hit.

Exactly, it does.

In my mind, though, it also depends upon whether the FC would have resulted in an out, given that runners would have been at 2nd and 3rd if the bunt had resulted in an out. If let's say that the ball was fielded in the deep hole at SS and SS could not have made an out with runners on 2nd and 3rd then the runner from 3rd would be an earned run.

When I coached first and freshman BB or as a fan in stands I often towards the umpire and what he was signalling (was it an o-u-t followed by safe signal).

Though intent is often involved,I would be apt to score SAC 2-3, with with a E3 for dropped ball (allowing the batter to reach and an extra base for original runners)

Next batter (1st and third) hits the ball and runner from third scores and runner at first reaches second. Not a FC, but an out on the batter (third to first ?? 5-3??)

NO EARNED RUNS.. First and second 1 out... Catcher to first (2 outs- if ball not dropped). Runners now at second and third "two outs". Next hitter makes an out (not clear how--I inserted 5-3, NOT FC) "Three outs" inning over. No runs should have scored. That's how I see it.. curious how that batter got out after the flub at first.

Is there a consistent way to determine the bunt v. 1B  it is either 3 Earned or 3 unearned.

@ Ripken Fan

Not sure if I wrote something wrong.  The hitter didn't go to 2nd on the error but the guy on 2nd who was running scored, and the guy on 2nd moved to 3rd which gave them runner on 1st and 3rd.The batter moved to 2nd and scored on double.

The bottom of my first post was sort of my reconstruction and the FC would have been a regular 6-3.

Again how did the next hitter make an out after the bunt?

I don't believe that there is. It is dependent on the plays afterwards.

Had the bunt play been the 3rd out and ruled an error, then yes, 3 unearned.

That would not be a FC....just a typical 6-3 GO

And then if not a FC, just a typical 6-3 GO, then the runs would be unearned.

After taking a look at the book, The FC I guess could have just been a 6-3 scoring the run,  but the runner on 1st (bunter) advanced to 2nd.  I didn't even notice that.

@ RedfishFool

Why would a 6-3 have been Earned, 6-3 would have been the 3rd out if the Bunter to 1st was error.

My thought.  Often times on a bunt - close play at 1st, batter is given the base hit and error charged allowing runners to advance.  Then you have to look at what happens after if the runners were not to have advanced.  Sounds like they would have scored anyway - I give all 3 runs earned.

There is an error on the play.  It really is a had to be there issue.  If the batter would have been CLEARLY safe, without a question, he reaches on an error.  If it is anywhere close to a bang-bang play, he gets a hit and the error on the advancement of the runners.

I said a 6-3 GO would be unearned. see above post two above yours.

But you originally called it a FC. With you saying a FC, it would depend upon the play whether it is earned or unearned

When you say the ball bounced out of the glove...was it a short hop throw or simply a drop?  If it was a drop and the ball beat the runner then it is an E3 all runs unearned.  Theoretically the 1B can pick up two errors on the play - on for allowing the runner to reach and a second if any of his action allowed the other runners to advance more than one base.

If it was a bang - bang play then the scorer can reasonably determine that the runner beat the rap and then all 3 are earned.  He could then charge an error for allowing the other runners to advance as previously noted but the runs would remain earned.

If a bounced throw E2 and all unearned.

Knowing more of the situation (6-3 out) I agree with bballman, ALL THREE ARE EARNED. If the "OFFICIAL SCORER" scored the bunt as a hit, it is a single and an E3 for allowing extra bases on runners (sounds like batter held). You can't assume a double play, so the first run would have scored on the 6-3 (had the bags been loaded, with no error on bunt). The next batter doubles which scores the other two.