I know that this has been covered before but I need a refresher. If a juco player plays in fall games but does not play in the spring, does it count as a year of eligibility?
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It shouldn't use a year of competition but it may in some cases start the 5 year calendar even if the player wasn't enrolled full time in the fall. If the player was enrolled full time in the fall then the calendar has started regardless.
I think it does count as a season of competition and starts the 5 year clock, even if the JC student was enrolled part-time.
See 14.02.7 for the definition of Intercollegiate Competition.
14.2.2.1 says the 5 year clock starts if a part-time student engages in Intercollegiate Competition.
14.2.3.1 says a season of competition is used, with the exception that a JC player may participate in up to 2 scrimmages per year, provided the scrimmages precede the regular schedule of games, no score is kept, and no admission is charged.
See 14.02.7 for the definition of Intercollegiate Competition.
14.2.2.1 says the 5 year clock starts if a part-time student engages in Intercollegiate Competition.
14.2.3.1 says a season of competition is used, with the exception that a JC player may participate in up to 2 scrimmages per year, provided the scrimmages precede the regular schedule of games, no score is kept, and no admission is charged.
My guess is that the intent is with regard to spring pre-season scrimmages. If they aren't keeping score in the fall then there's no way to prove how often a player played in any case.
D1 players can play a fair part of a season without losing a season of competition. In CA playing a single JUCO game in season will use a year of competition unless there is an injury after that in which case it is possible to get the year of competition back as long as some limit on games played hasn't been reached.
I'm aware of a player who was a starting infielder in 2009 at a D1 as a freshman and played in 10 games. He was injured and sat out the remainder of the 2009 season and the entire 2010 season. Now he'll be a redshirt freshman in 2011 at a JUCO. My guess is he'll have some eligibility issues if he tries to transfer back to a D1 though.
I'm also aware of a CA JC starter who was injured partway through a season and got the year of competition back.
On the other hand I know of a pitcher who threw a couple innings in a single regular season game for a CA JC who started the clock and lost a year of competition. He ended up at a D2 (that may move up to D1) so I don't know what that will do.
If player A plays in a single game and uses up a year of competition why should player B be able to get back a year of competition if he's played more than that prior to being injured?
Why can players who played for D1s below the D1 limit go to a JUCO as a freshman while a player who plays fewer games for a JUCO is a sophmore?
My point is that the rules are a total mishmash and are in serious need of reform.
D1 players can play a fair part of a season without losing a season of competition. In CA playing a single JUCO game in season will use a year of competition unless there is an injury after that in which case it is possible to get the year of competition back as long as some limit on games played hasn't been reached.
I'm aware of a player who was a starting infielder in 2009 at a D1 as a freshman and played in 10 games. He was injured and sat out the remainder of the 2009 season and the entire 2010 season. Now he'll be a redshirt freshman in 2011 at a JUCO. My guess is he'll have some eligibility issues if he tries to transfer back to a D1 though.
I'm also aware of a CA JC starter who was injured partway through a season and got the year of competition back.
On the other hand I know of a pitcher who threw a couple innings in a single regular season game for a CA JC who started the clock and lost a year of competition. He ended up at a D2 (that may move up to D1) so I don't know what that will do.
If player A plays in a single game and uses up a year of competition why should player B be able to get back a year of competition if he's played more than that prior to being injured?
Why can players who played for D1s below the D1 limit go to a JUCO as a freshman while a player who plays fewer games for a JUCO is a sophmore?
My point is that the rules are a total mishmash and are in serious need of reform.