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obradyobrady500+ posts
If a fielder fields a batted ball in time to make a play, but hesitates just long enough to not get an out......

Rule 10.13 (b) An error shall be charged against any fielder when he catches a thrown ball or a ground ball in time to put out the batter runner and fails to tag first base or the batter runner.

I always thought of this as a mental error, which isn't a chargeable error.

In our game the short stop fielded the ball, hesitated just a moment, then threw to second where the second baseman had passed the base and was calling for a throw to first (everyone was calling for a throw to first).

If an error, who would you charge it to?
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Lefty's DadLefty's Dad100+ posts
Here's the word for word from the OBR, rule 10.13
"An error shall be charged for each misplay (fumble, muff, or wild throw) which prolongs the life of a batter or which prolongs the life of a runner, or which permits a runner to advance one or more bases. NOTE (1) Slow handling of the ball which does not involve mechanical misplay shall not be constued as an error.
I added the italics. So it's scored as a hit.
Moc1Moc1500+ posts
LD you are correct. However, this scoring rule needs to be changed. Awarding a hit to a batter that should have clearly been thrown out is absurd, just as it is wrong to penalize a pitcher with a hit given up when he has done his job by getting a ground
ball. Since the official scorer has the ability to rule certain plays hits/errors in his/her judgement the same logic should apply on a ball that is held too long for no
apparent reason. There is NO excuse for a player not to make a routine play-mental or
not.
FungoFungoHighly Regarded and Beloved Old Timer
No error.... The rule you quote has noting to do with the slow handling of the ball by the fielder. This rule you quote is specific in that it applies to the player that is actually making the out (by tagging the base or the runner).
Slow handling is NOT an error An error shall be charged for each misplay (fumble, muff or wild throw) which prolongs the time at bat of a batter or which prolongs the life of a runner, or which permits a runner to advance one or more bases. NOTE (1) Slow handling of the ball which does not involve mechanical misplay shall not be construed as an error.
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FungoFungoHighly Regarded and Beloved Old Timer
quote:
Does a fielders choice have to include an out?

No. Charge the batter with a time at bat but no hit; (d) When a fielder fails in an attempt to put out a preceding runner, and in the scorer's judgment the batter runner could have been put out at first base. I think you have to score this a fielder's choice.
FungoFungoHighly Regarded and Beloved Old Timer
florida fan,
It all depends --- You have to ignore the slow handling by the third baseman (not a factor) and ask: “Would the throw beat the runner?”
If the throw were accurate and would have beaten the runner to record the out, the official scorekeeper will normally record this as a throwing error ----However---- if the runner would have beaten the throw (accurate or not) there is no error even if the fielder were slow because slow handling without mechanical miscues does not constitute an error.
Fungo

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