ESPN I-Score for Ipad

I thought I'd give it a whirl last summer watching my son's 12yo team. Frustrated the stink out of me. couldn't get lineups entered quickly...
just gave up... if there is a good tutorial I would give it anohter try..

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Originally posted by trojan-skipper:
I thought I'd give it a whirl last summer watching my son's 12yo team. Frustrated the stink out of me. couldn't get lineups entered quickly...
just gave up... if there is a good tutorial I would give it anohter try..

I couldn’t help making a comment in support of I-Score, or rather in support of all similar pieces of software.

For almost 60 years I kept score with a pencil and a scoresheet. Then, I’d take from those scoresheets different things, and from those things generate lots of different metrics. Last year I decided that I wanted to save the step where I had to spend time pulling out that information and entering it into another place in order to develop those metrics, so I converted the program I used to generate those metrics, into generating the metrics by scoring the game electronically.

But either way has this one little problem that can’t easily be done away with. Somehow, the lineup has to be somehow written down or entered. With a paper and pencil, the scorer transcribes each player’s name, number, and fielding position. Just because its done electronically, it doesn’t mean those same things don’t have to be entered, and there’s the problem.

I can write Smith, 14, 6 in the correct columns in about 5 seconds. If I have to enter it into a computer, the way my program works, it takes me at least 3 times as long, and Lord help me if I have a fumble finger. I’m not sure how its done using an app, but I’m gonna guess its similar to texting. I can do that, but unlike my son who can text in his sleep, I actually have to look at what I’m doing, and if I fumble finger, it can be a major catastrophe as far as time goes.

So, I can enter the lineups with a pencil for both teams in about 2-3 minutes, in my program in about twice as long, and probably with an app, at least twice that, and now we’re talking 10-15 minutes for some people. Its all good if there’s a SK doing it while the coaches are off coaching, but if it’s the coach trying to do it, there’s no doubt it could frustrate “the stink” out of them.

There are definitely ways to programmatically make the process easier, and I’ve done some of that for myself, but its difficult to do for a couple million users who have different circumstances. So what I’m saying is, get better at the data entry required for the app you’re trying to use, and the time it takes to get those names in, will reduce enormously.

I use Gamechanger and have the same problem (have not used I-Score). GC has a function where it will load the line-ups as "Player A", "Player B" etc and then you can edit on the fly to put in the player's name and position. So this takes some of the pressure off, but I find myself rushing like heck to try and get the line-ups keyed in before the action starts.

I used Gamechanger for three teams last season and the learning curve is extremely short, its extremely intuitive, and the designers remain committed to continuously enhancing it. Its hands down better than any other app out there.

Having said that, paper and pencil is easier and more comfortable but its the dark ages when it comes to compiling stats easily, seeing spray charts, sharing results, and in one respect its useless: live action sharing.

And yes, I've tried I-Score and tossed it quickly.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by RedSoxFan21:
I used Gamechanger for three teams last season and the learning curve is extremely short, its extremely intuitive, and the designers remain committed to continuously enhancing it. Its hands down better than any other app out there.
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Just downloaded this for iPad and admittedly have only been playing around with the sample games but . . . we couldn't find a means to enter a strike out looking? In searching online it appears that in fact, you cannot? Is this true?!

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Originally posted by 2013 Parent:
Just downloaded this for iPad and admittedly have only been playing around with the sample games but . . . we couldn't find a means to enter a strike out looking? In searching online it appears that in fact, you cannot? Is this true?!

I don’t use it, but I’m wondering what you do with that knowledge. Is it something special, or is it that you just want to know because its something that’s always been around?

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Originally posted by 2013 Parent:
[. . . we couldn't find a means to enter a strike out looking? In searching online it appears that in fact, you cannot? Is this true?!

I'm sure you enter it during the at bat. K looking, K swinging, dropped third strike, its all there.

But the option will only appear when the count suggests that a third strike could be occurring.

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Originally posted by Stats4Gnats:

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Originally posted by 2013 Parent:
. we couldn't find a means to enter a strike out looking? In searching online it appears that in fact, you cannot? Is this true?!

I don’t use it, but I’m wondering what you do with that knowledge. Is it something special, or is it that you just want to know because its something that’s always been around?

As a coach, I would use it for feedback to the batter as a gauge to whether he's striking out by desperately swinging at any pitch or being too patient (hopeful) with that count.

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Originally posted by RedSoxFan21:
As a coach, I would use it for feedback to the batter as a gauge to whether he's striking out by desperately swinging at any pitch or being too patient (hopeful) with that count.

Thanx for the answer. I think its really important for coaches to have a real plan on what they’re going to do with metrics, other than to just look at them. That’s using what you measure to manage.

Having said that, how do you decide on whether he’s “desperately swinging” or “being too patient with that count”? The reason I’m asking is, I’m trying to see how whether or not a K looking or swinging helps to determine anything other than the rate at which a batter strikes out. I’m just feeling like there has to be something else thrown into the analysis to come to a conclusion like that.

I have used I-Score for the past two years on the Ipod touch. I have converted to the ipad this season. I really love the iscore app, especially now with the addition of edge hq analytics. Best portable scoring app out there IMO.