This is the actual evaluation report from a pro scout. His observations are from years of experience and discussions with other scouts.
The "human" element is critical to a team's success.
Bob
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Thanks for sharing this! Didn’t realize how in detail these scouting reports get. Though it was just the old 20-80 scale on hitting, fielding etc.
Bob. A kid who runs 6.49 has a 50 run speed rating?? I would think that is plus speed. I see there's a separate base running category. Are mlb guys really that fast? They average sub 6.5-6.6?
Is that maybe projecting growth? Kinda like a 180 pounds guy who is projected to weigh 210 at maturity might be projected to slow down.
Dadbelly:
If you observed three scouts scouting the same player you will have 3 different evaluations on running and hitting. Often depending on their baseball background.
Running "efficiency" is often not recorded but observed with words like "glide".
A Coach or Parent would be wise to invite a Track Coach to a practice or send players to a Track practice. As a Coach, I would practice 1st to 3rd base running. There a 11 ways to score from 3rd with less than 2 outs.
Bob
Is a 4.15 time from home to 1st elite?
| Right Handed Hitter (seconds) | Left Handed Hitter (seconds) | |
|---|---|---|
| Above Average | 4.2 | 4.1 |
| Average | 4.3 | 4.2 |
| Below Average | 4.4 | 4.3 |
| Poor | 4.5 | 4.4 |
4.0 and under is considered elite.
So the 50/55 score is reasonable
So FYI Bob's scout had the player higher than the scout MLB.com used for its top 100 2020 draft prospects listing.
https://www.mlb.com/prospects/.../owen-caissie-683357
The Padres scout must have agreed, as they drafted him 45th overall in the 2nd round.
Ok. I get it. From the first link. "He’s at least an above-average runner, one who gets to plus once underway." So he's long and lanky. Takes him time to get up to speed. Remarkable. He's indoors 8 mo per year. The moral is work on your hit tool.
@JCG posted:So FYI Bob's scout had the player higher than the scout MLB.com used for its top 100 2020 draft prospects listing.
https://www.mlb.com/prospects/.../owen-caissie-683357
The Padres scout must have agreed, as they drafted him 45th overall in the 2nd round.
Yeah 65 mit 65 Power projection means he sees him as a top10 overall prospect in the game. I don't quite get that report, based on the grades he should have been drafted top5 overall.
@@Consultant
For a dad with no baseball background (other than being a fan of the game), I feel like I’m getting a peak behind the curtain. Thanks for that! Any chance you have a sample of a pitching evaluation? Thanks for all your contributions!
Collinsclan:
During our International Goodwill Series with Japan, Korea, China, Australia I would select our Coaches; Pro Scouts and former MLB players. During the 2 weeks "on the road", we had many discussions on their observations.
Pitchers are evaluated to physical tools the ability to add velocity and a 2nd or 3rd pitch.
One scout wanted to see what the pitcher would do if his teammate made a error and in the 7th or 9th inning. Would he throw his glove or kick dirt or yell at the player? This is not a player for his organization. The actual scouting report would be similar to the position.
Bob
One scout wanted to see what the pitcher would do if his teammate made a error and in the 7th or 9th inning.
When my son was playing LL I told him when he gets older he will be playing with better players. And they will still be making errors. So, shake it off, tell the player to shake it off and focus on your next pitch.
For him it worked. I saw other pitchers from LL through high school lose it when errors were made. I didn’t see it so much in college ball.
One thing that isn’t talked about much outside of baseball circles is the mental and emotional impact the pitcher has on the game & on his own team. The pitcher is the focus of every play and he is in a leadership position whether he wants to be or not. It’s part of being successful at that position. Body language is critically important as is how a pitcher reacts to what occurs during a game - both in terms of the pitcher’s performance and the performance of his teammates behind him. If a pitcher is a positive influence on himself and his team he will win more games. When a position player makes an error and the pitcher encourages him afterwards that player will go thru a wall to make the next play. The reverse is also true. Scouts know this, of course, and that’s why they place so much importance on the mental makeup of any pitcher they are evaluating.
Adbono;
very true. during my Post Graduate at MSU my study was "body language". During a "tornado" in Michigan we were sent to the basement for safety.
Dick Radatz a 6'6'' Pitcher on the MSU team was also in the basement and I decide to conduct a non-verbal communication interview for my "Social Psychology" class.
"He believed that he owned the mound"!
Dick later pitched for the Red Sox as a relief pitcher. https://www.baseball-reference...rs/r/radatdi01.shtml.
His son is the President of the Northwoods League.
Bob
I wonder if we are going to see a slight roll back towards more scouting.
Probably not as much as in the old days but I think some teams might have reduced their scouting too much and relied too much on raw data.
I listened to a podcast with Keith law and he said the astros essentially stopped pro scouting and two years ago everyone raved how they were light-years ahead of everyone in player dev and scouting but now their farm system is pretty weak.
Obviously a lot of this is graduations and trades but they also might have overdone the just rely on raw data and reduce scouting and instead a mix of data and scouting might be best.