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just curious what some of you high school and showcase team type coaches tell your kids about what they put on facebook, twitter, etc. I do not really know what instagram is, but the wife was showing me some of the kids that I have coached in the past who have a shot at going somewhere to play who have some really stupid stuff on there. Very nice kids who play hard and are respectful and get good grades with 4-letter words, obscene gestures, tasteless jokes, and rediculous pictures. got any examples of kids not getting offers or having something taken away becasue of this that I can tell them that might hekp clean this mess up?
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Think of instagram as twitter with pictures. Not sure coaches have said anything about them specifically...just overall behavior and social media behavior is a part of it. This generation is just started to find out what a good memory the internet has, and what an easy investigative tool social media is. Not just what they say themselves, but also those they associate with.
My 2015 attended a camp this summer at a high-level DI school. The head coach gave the boys a great motivational talk at the end of the camp. He specifically said that they had recently removed a top candidate from consideration because of something one of his assistants brought to his attention on the kid’s Facebook page. He rattled off all the items from your list plus racism, misogyny, vulgarity, etc.

Whether this was true or just a good story, I couldn’t tell you. But, I’m glad he brought it up because my wife and I can always reference the coaches remarks if it becomes a problem.
I heard a story yesterday of a D3 coach cutting a kid during fall practices who did not run out a hit. How might a coach react to seeing immaturity on a social site?

Not sure. Perhaps more important is how will a potential employer view it? If they don't know you they will go by what they find on you. And none of this stuff is ever truly deleted.

Poster Beware!
Son is a college freshman. In addition to a long lecture from the head coach, every freshman athlete at the school was required to attend a "Social Media Seminar" one night. He has since just deleted his facebook account, still has the twitter thing but rarely posts anything. One guy on the team tweeted something about going to his "stupid lab" and that led to the head coach lecture, so they do check on that kind of stuff.
I used to coach showcase softball. We constantly reminded the girls to make their Facebook pages clean or unaccessible to non friends. One girl lost an offer due to her Facebook page with a bunch of party pics.

As for Twitter, it can be the ultimate mouth/keyboarding fingers in gear before the brain is functioning. There are plenty of cases of athletes losing rides due to mouthing off on Twitter.

Another thing kids have to consider now is every cell phone is a camera and camcorder.
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Twitter, etc is monitored. My son for fun set up a fake twitter account called "not..."(a friend of his on the team). One time the team went out to dinner at nice place (paid for by a dad) and my son posted on his "not..." account, pretending to be team mate, that of course he paid for dinner for the team.

Compliance called the team mate in and asked him how he was able to pay for dinner. Team mate had no idea what they were talking about. Finally he understood what happened. Not too happy.

I thought it was funny though.
At the Area Code Games the scouting directors who spoke at the symposium said they follow twitter and fb very closely. The director from the White Sox said he personally tracked their #1 pick for 4 months before the draft. He said on occasion he talked to the area scout about certain tweets to have them checked out. They are watching........
Since HS, my son has seen problems with other players involving the social web sites and has learned to be VERY cautious about what he posts. . . if and when he posts. He doesn't post a lot. Even just posting pictures can be a problem as he had one where he posed shirtless in front of a sports car with a couple of beautiful girls hanging on him at his sides. It was nothing really suggestive and looking like some kind of modeling pose one might see is a car magazine. But apparently it didn't represent the school well and he took it out after a coach made the "suggestion." The kids have to realize that as a student-athlete in particular, they are out there representing the school and a great many schools are very careful about how they're represented.
I have preached this to my own son's and my players as well. I really don't have a better word for it so I will just say it "Some people are just stupid." One of my wife's friends told the whole world of her upcoming vacation to Mexico. For 2 or 3 weeks she told everyone when they were leaving , coming back and where they were going. They had a great time on the vacation. Then came home to find that someone had cleaned out the house.

I have a hard time understanding why people feel the need to put their life out there for others to see. Young people are trying to impress other people and post stuff that they shouldn't post or even be thinking about in the first place. Forget the coaches or pro ball office folks for a minute. Why would you want anyone to see that kind of stuff? Why would you be thinking or saying that kind of stuff in the first place? Get your act together and you don't have to worry about it.
Mom's all over the world used to (and still do) say..."If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything".

My 2013 simply doesn't have any Facebook, Twitter, My Space accounts. He doesn't want them because he can always call or e-mail someone if he wants them to know something.

There is no way to avoid all risk; as one reply noted, every phone is a camera and video camera. The best thing we can do for our kids is to make them aware of the risks.

Just like the HSBBW article says....you never know who's watching...
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Originally posted by Coach_May:
I have preached this to my own son's and my players as well. I really don't have a better word for it so I will just say it "Some people are just stupid." One of my wife's friends told the whole world of her upcoming vacation to Mexico. For 2 or 3 weeks she told everyone when they were leaving , coming back and where they were going. They had a great time on the vacation. Then came home to find that someone had cleaned out the house.

I have a hard time understanding why people feel the need to put their life out there for others to see. Young people are trying to impress other people and post stuff that they shouldn't post or even be thinking about in the first place. Forget the coaches or pro ball office folks for a minute. Why would you want anyone to see that kind of stuff? Why would you be thinking or saying that kind of stuff in the first place? Get your act together and you don't have to worry about it.
Facebook has become a major source for identity theft. The thiefs start with people who list their full name, birthday, specific location and where they attended school. This data makes it a lot easier to get their SS#.

My Facebook page has nothing more than my name and the various states I've lived. No birthday. No names of towns I've lived. No schools listed. It allows long lost friends to find me.
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I just don't understand why people blame Facebook or any other new technology when it boils to common sense and using things responsibly. Too many people say or put things online that they wouldn't say or do in public because it's either done anonymously or not to someone's face. And it occasionally happens on these boards as well.

We let our kids get Facebook, etc years ago with the understanding that we also have the password and that we will monitor it. We also told them what expectations we had as far as its use and let them know the consequences if they abused it. Our kids are now 19 and 22 and we're friends on Facebook...their choice, not ours...because they don't have anything to hide. Unfortunately, too many parents just let their kids do whatever (online and wherever) and choose not to know what they're doing.

Like Jack White said in the song Effect And Cause, "if you're heading to the grave, you don't blame the hearse."
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Originally posted by lhprhp:
I just don't understand why people blame Facebook or any other new technology when it boils to common sense and using things responsibly. Too many people say or put things online that they wouldn't say or do in public because it's either done anonymously or not to someone's face. And it occasionally happens on these boards as well.

We let our kids get Facebook, etc years ago with the understanding that we also have the password and that we will monitor it. We also told them what expectations we had as far as its use and let them know the consequences if they abused it. Our kids are now 19 and 22 and we're friends on Facebook...their choice, not ours...because they don't have anything to hide. Unfortunately, too many parents just let their kids do whatever (online and wherever) and choose not to know what they're doing.

Like Jack White said in the song Effect And Cause, "if you're heading to the grave, you don't blame the hearse."
I don't believe anyone is blaming Facebook. The discussion is on the irresponsible use of Facebook. Some kids are not responsible. The only solution for them is, "don't use it."

The advice I gave my kids, which I believe can be tweaked to suit any situation, "If you think you may be in the wrong place, chances are it's true. Leave."

The advice was directly related to social situations. But it can be tweaked to relate to Facebook or any other environment.
Two of our kids have facebook and twitter. I am friends and follow both. Never really had problems in this area. Our church pastor's name is Dempsey. We always tell them to act like Dempsey is a friend or follower of you before you post anything. I guess it works.

But it will come back to haunt me at times. I'll be listening to some song from the 80's that could be deemed innapropriate. It never fails that I will hear one of them say "I wonder if Dempsey likes this song?"
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Two of our kids have facebook and twitter. I am friends and follow both. Never really had problems in this area. Our church pastor's name is Dempsey. We always tell them to act like Dempsey is a friend or follower of you before you post anything. I guess it works.

But it will come back to haunt me at times. I'll be listening to some song from the 80's that could be deemed innapropriate. It never fails that I will hear one of them say "I wonder if Dempsey likes this song?"
So Dempsey wouldn't listen to Pour Some Sugar On Me? Or Cherry Pie?
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Originally posted by Lefty's Dad:
Son is a college freshman. In addition to a long lecture from the head coach, every freshman athlete at the school was required to attend a "Social Media Seminar" one night. He has since just deleted his facebook account, still has the twitter thing but rarely posts anything. One guy on the team tweeted something about going to his "stupid lab" and that led to the head coach lecture, so they do check on that kind of stuff.


My son is a college freshman at a JUCO and all players had to sign a "Code of Conduct" that included posting on Twitter and Facebook. Yes, they would be monitering those along with the players conduct on and off the field.

I am curious about the use of twitter as a recruiting tool. I know a lot of coaches and schools seem to be on twitter and they follow a lot of players. My curiosity though is whether or not it can be useful for players and/or parents to post updates about the player on Twitter. For instance a mini-player profile, or update on fastball speeds, running speeds, etc. Posting game play photos, links to news stories, etc. Any thoughts?

Start of the fall, winter and spring sports seasons I have a mandatory meeting with parents and players.  We talk about various things but one thing I warn them about is keyboard courage.  Posting things to social media because it allows you to think you're invincible when you're not.  I tell them we aren't going to go hunting social media but if it's brought to our attention we will do something about it.  That includes suspension from the team, gone from the team and suspended from school.  We have one or two incidents each year and everyone knows about it because that stuff gets out no matter how we try to keep it confidential.  It still happens each year after people realize others have been suspended kicked off or suspended from school.  Everyone thinks they are invincible.

A lot of the camps and showcases my 2016 has attended have discussed social media habits.

 

From my perspective talking to the teenagers that play (and have played) for me, at least in NYC metro area, facebook is pretty much dead to these kids (like MySpace!)...twitter and instagram are pretty easy to manage (they just start an account that doesn't pertain to them, though that's easily found out of you know what your doing). The big SM app platform they use is Snapchat. Because the posts "go away". 

 

There was an article this week about a Pace football player that was kicked off the team because of a posting on some SM platform of him in attire that was pretty inappropriate. As I've told my two sons, your actions will usually have repercussions, so be careful what you do. In everything you do. I've been lucky so far. 

MCass, in regards to DMs via Twitter i have personal experience with that being utilized for comms with a coach during recruiting. I'm not sure if it is covered under "official contact" or defined but i know i have severals DMs across various periods where no one else was contacting me or my son about recruiting....if you know what i mean. FTR, it is not the coaches or school where he ended up with a scholarship.

Originally Posted by MCass:

I am curious about the use of twitter as a recruiting tool. I know a lot of coaches and schools seem to be on twitter and they follow a lot of players. My curiosity though is whether or not it can be useful for players and/or parents to post updates about the player on Twitter. For instance a mini-player profile, or update on fastball speeds, running speeds, etc. Posting game play photos, links to news stories, etc. Any thoughts?

Hmmm…me too.  Based on what I am seeing, I would say many HS players believe twitter is a useful recruiting tool.  To me it's becoming quite a bore.  I'm seeing an increasing stream of humble brags ("bummed that it's raining here at the Area Code games and my brand new superman tee shirt is getting wet"), reminders of how hard a kid is working ("here's a video of me doing plyometrics…what are you doing to get better?"), just plain bragging ("3 for 4 today with 7 stolen bases"), and the I-should-have-been-picked-too ("congrats to my Team USA buds, miss you guys…").  

 

I think the old "proud to announce I've committed to xxx" or "stoked we made the playoffs" are great, as are videos of bloopers and the occasional truly exception play, but the other stuff…I can live without.

It's something I increasingly worry about with my son. His social media pages are pretty tame and have been checked...for the most part. He's also been "educated" about what this can mean for recruitment. However, there are so many of them. Last week, we sat down and were filling out the questionnaire for a particular college and they specifically asked for user names for several sites. One I hadn't checked so we went onto it. Damn. The problem is with a nickname he was given not long after we moved here. "Bong." Not a good nickname when you live in Colorado. The origins are pretty tame in reality. It was a take off of his last name. At first he was Chandler Bing. That morphed into Chanandler Bing (don't ask me how), which became Chanandler Bong and, finally, simply "Bong." One of the team sayings that still persists is that when they need a win and put him on the mound, they "slip them the Bong." The other joke used to be that they would tell him, "See the Bong, be the Bong." These are unfortunately rampant on his Instagram page. No drug references, but it keeps coming up. I actually had him get rid of the page - his user name was chanandlerbong. However, if you Google his name, it may take a few pages, but it still comes up with a link to his Instagram site and the phrase "See the Bong, be the bong." Don't know what I can do about it.

I have a twitter account. Actually tweet once in awhile. I somehow ended up with quite a few followers.

 

A while back I tweeted something about Richard Sherman insane act after a Seattle win. I then got a reply calling me a racist. Actually pissed me off because I'm about as far from being a racist as anyone could imagine.  However, I sure learned a quick lesson about thinking carefully before you tweet. I see tweets by HS players that are extremely vulger or stupid. Makes you wonder what they're thinking or if they're thinking at all.

Originally Posted by PGStaff:

I have a twitter account. Actually tweet once in awhile. I somehow ended up with quite a few followers.

 

A while back I tweeted something about Richard Sherman insane act after a Seattle win. I then got a reply calling me a racist. Actually pissed me off because I'm about as far from being a racist as anyone could imagine.  However, I sure learned a quick lesson about thinking carefully before you tweet. I see tweets by HS players that are extremely vulger or stupid. Makes you wonder what they're thinking or if they're thinking at all.

True. I was looking through the Twitter account of a young man last year who was a D1 commit as a freshman. His tweets seemed to all be about God and baseball until you got back far enough and found some racist stuff. It seems that at some point he got the word, but didn't delete everything. However, the school didn't go back far enough or gave a 14yo lefty throwing 90 mph a break.

 

Originally Posted by SluggerDad:

I know a player who has made his twitter account private somehow. You have to be a verified something or other to be able to follow him.  Not sure how you do that, not being a twitter aficionado.  But maybe that should be standard operating procedure for kids who don't want recruiters snooping around their twitter feeds.

 

According to my son, the topic came up among a few of the players at a recent showcase. A major D1 recruit who has committed since then told my son that the college had actually asked him for his passwords so they could look at his account.

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