Fair or Foul

You are correct.
It is based on the ball, not the player.

One of my favorite plays happened many years ago. My player flared a ball up the first base line and stood in the box. The catcher bolted, was in foul territory, the ball was touched by the catcher in fair territory. I'm yelling run to the batter who takes off late. The ball spins out of the catcher's mitt, my runner kicks it (on the ground) on the way to first. Both umps stared at each other.

First ruling, ball is fair, was touched in fair territory. The catcher's feet nor where it subsequently landed after being touched fair mattered.

Second ruling, runner is safe. Once the ball went through the defender the runner being safe was based upon if the runner kicked the ball on purpose or accidently. Ruled unintentional, runner safe. [If the ball had not gone through the defense, he would have been out, intentional or not.]

You can count always on these two issues....

Its always where the ball is.......

Its always where the umpire says it is........

now no one think im and idiot for asking-- if there is a hard grounder that is in foul territory is mishandled by the fielder and pops into fair territory off the fielder before passing the bag. is it fair or foul.

i know that its a basic rule, but sometimes we humans just tend to forget these things, but remember the obscure stuff

Bubble,

As you described, it's a foul ball.

nfhs section 2-16d

Bubble,

The ball is fair if touched in fair territory, and foul if touched in foul territory. Example, if a bounding ball down the 3rd base line, hits the line and then bounces foul but the 3rd basemen fields it while in fair territory, it's still a foul ball becaue the ball was in foul territory when it was touched by the fiedler. It cannot be touched in foul territory and then become a fair ball. The ball can hit in foul territory, bounce in to fair where it is fielded for a fair ball though.

Confused yet?

Interesting one I saw the other day, line drive hit back up the middle and hit the pitcher rubber and ricocheted foul. Ruled foul ball, never passed base in fair territory.

Yeppers...that is a foul ball.

lol, thanks pilsner, i dont know what i was thinking. just a momentary lapse in i guess un-ignorance.

and yeah, if it hits the rubber and goes foul w/out touching a player its a foul