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Well known program and well known coach.  A few months ago the HC invited us to attend a camp, we did, the coach asked for a pre-read after camp.  A month ago they invited us back to a final camp which is coming up.

We received a letter early last week, (I think),  from the head coach which was missed because we never check our mail.  That letter was still in our mailbox when a few days later our player saw the recruiting coordinator and assistant coach at a prospect event.  This is someone we have had meaningful contact with.  Our player spoke to this person and was told the pre-read on our application was, "overwhelmingly positive and yes the program is still looking".........

When we got home from the event and retrieved the mail we saw the letter, opened it and WOW!  The letter is from the HC, it says:

"Thanks for everything..........your great...........Unfortunately our staff has decided that you are not talented enough to play XXXXX for XXXXX university.  Good luck to you in you search......."

Has anyone gotten a letter with this type of wording?  Advice?

I framed the letter today and gave it to my player.  Our player sent a respectful, inspired, direct email response to our contact asking for clarification, a phone call, and an update on the camp invite.  That's where we are.  I guess given the school and the program I am completely floored by the language used.  Thank you.  Great forum.  I wish more people would post. 

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Advice: check you mail more often....

Sorry, I am just a bit skeptical of your accounting of the situation. Is that word for word, or are you paraphrasing? Seems like there is more to this.

If that's all of it, IMO it's a pretty crappy response. Coaches want to present themselves as "leaders of men" while posting the most meaningless, non-sensical quotes online while ghosting or responding like this to prospective recruits. Sorry if that's the case for you and your son.

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I know exactly who this is from. The head coach and the recruiting coordinator are very direct, and I don’t necessarily mean that in a good way. When they offered my son, they asked what other schools he was considering and they head coach bashed the other schools and the baseball programs. it really rubbed us the wrong way. We all had some satisfaction in my son calling them to tell them he wasn’t interested in their offer. There are other posters here who have similar stories as yours in dealing with this program

No its not typical.   What was typical (at least for my son) was not getting a response whatsoever, which required us to read between the lines and move onto the next school.  Most coaches were not excellent communicators.

So, at the very least you know where you stand with them, and there is no mystery.  Put it behind you, and move onto the next school on the list which is why we build lists.

Just my experience and opinion...

@joemannix, first of all I was a big fan of your TV show, especially after you broke off from the big agency and went out on your own.
  Regarding the letter, it is very direct and not news that you wanted, but I have no problem with it. As others have mentioned it leaves no room for misunderstanding. That’s much better than being strung along. And it won’t be the last time your son hears “no”. Using the letter as motivation is exactly the approach to take.
  A player that I coached had a similar experience with this HC during the recruiting process. And this player ended up playing for a conference rival. In fact he was a 4 year starter and team captain at this rival school. In his last game against JH he was playing 3B and made a tremendous diving backhand play on a ball down the line. After getting up and throwing the runner out at 1B he heard the opposing 3B coach (who is the HC and author of your letter) say, “nice play 12”. To which this player turned and responded with delight, “you know my f@cking name.” It was the best vindication possible. Lots of us that played have had moments like that. Karma is a real thing.
  Best of luck navigating the process!

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@joemannix, first of all I was a big fan of your TV show, especially after you broke off from the big agency and went out on your own.
  Regarding the letter, it is very direct and not news that you wanted, but I have no problem with it. As others have mentioned it leaves no room for misunderstanding. That’s much better than being strung along. And it won’t be the last time your son hears “no”. Using the letter as motivation is exactly the approach to take.
  A player that I coached had a similar experience with this HC during the recruiting process. And this player ended up playing for a conference rival. In fact he was a 4 year starter and team captain at this rival school. In his last game against JH he was playing 3B and made a tremendous diving backhand play on a ball down the line. After getting up and throwing the runner out at 1B he heard the opposing 3B coach (who is the HC and author of your letter) say, “nice play 12”. To which this player turned and responded with delight, “you know my f@cking name.” It was the best vindication possible. Lots of us that played have had moments like that. Karma is a real thing.
  Best of luck navigating the process!

Karma sounds like a great idea a for a future topic.  I agree it is a thing.   I'll bet some people have some great stories about karma.  The baseball gods are always watching. 

Many years ago the kid got invited to a very high-end program to work out. While visiting the bathroom the HC walked in. The kid acknowledged him with a "hello coach". He did not reply. We crossed the school off and didn't give it a second thought. Years later the kids team went much deeper into the tournament than his did with no small amount of help from the kid. Even though the coach had to have heard the kids named mentioned I'm sure he didn't remember that encounter.

I've said this before here. Your kid is a piece of meat to these people. They'll find him appetizing or throw him in the trash and not give a second thought.   

I think it is good that the coach is honest, probably more helpful than a coach who just ghosts you or even worse fakes some interest to keep you around as a plan C or D in case plan A and plan B jump off the ship but I don't like how he worded it, you would expect some level of more diplomatic wording.

That he uses that brutal of a wording could be a red flag, maybe he is well meaning and it is a kind of "prepare for the real world" intention but he could also be just cruel or very frustrated and using those rejection letters to let out some of his anger which of course isn't a situation where you want to be in as a player.

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