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@TPM posted:

People seem to forget there are other divisions besides P5s and they do it right!

There seems to be specific parts of the country that hS issues, coaches will scoop up players so the other big in state D1s won't get them.

JMO

Yep!!  38 kids on son's DI roster...no cuts.  They have a mix of scholarship kids, PWO's, JUCO's, transfer portals, and a small amount of incoming freshman (most will redshirt, but a few will get some playing time this year.)   

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@baseballhs posted:

This isn't an attack on your son.  I certainly know there are some coaches that are good men...even good men who have to make tough decisions.  That also doesn't mean that other people's sons experiences aren't legitimate...or that there aren't some self centered coaches who aren't great men.

"My opinion if a player arrives hurt and will miss the season, the coach, unless against NCAA rules an ask for the player to give up that scholarship for 1 year. JMO"

Are you saying they should be able to ask for the scholarship for one year?

Yes, but the coach has to come up with a valid plan. Which would be to cover the scholarship perhaps double the following year which might be a grad year. There are lots of coaches, especially mid D1 who will not give the 5th year, can't afford it. We have some folks here who have given up scholarship freshman year for more money following year, etc.

Be aware I stated if they come with an injury. If the injury occurs playing for team it should be covered.

I don't recall when I signed my college NLI that my coach told me it was a "try out" for my sport.  I was told that I was being offered a scholarship because I was a great player and the team wanted me.

I don't think any athlete in any sport considers a verbal offer, signing a NLI and then receiving a scholarship as a "tryout".

Note, a verbal offer is non-binding, so it is as good as the paper that it is written on.

NLI, means you have some value based on what the coach saw and is willing to risk the cost for at least 1 year.  Note, it is in his budget, thus it is a sunk cost.

You need to read between the line, if you were a deemed a stud, then your roster spot was safe, others were trying out.

What is your definition of great?

But let's stay focused, what is the purpose of fall baseball?

Why do coaches bring in 40 plus players?

@PitchingFan posted:

I agree TPM.  Give us names.  The only one that has been named is Texas A&M and LSU and that is a unique position because they were hired for a lot of money to fix a messed up program.  The only way to do that is to get rid of guys who can't help you win and replace them with players you think can whether that is juco, portal, or freshman.  Not a good situation for those cut or told they will not play but unless it continues to happen it was a unique situation.  If it continues to happen it will hurt recruiting of middle level freshmen classes but won't hurt his portal recruiting.  Guys will still want to go play there especially with the NIL deals both have and will take their chances.

@pitchingfan @tpm  we are doing a study or impact of HC change on rosters for year 1 and 2. Will probably have a article mid November. Stay tuned

@FriarFred posted:

Here is an article from Whole Hog Sports on the 2022 Arkansas fall roster - 44 with 28 newcomers per the article.

https://www.wholehogsports.com...all-baseball-roster/

Here is a visual version of Arkansas 2022 Fall Roster

Where are their players from

Arkansas_2023_distribution-by-state

Distribution by primary position and grad class



Arkansas_2023_distribution-by-position

Additional Team Roster Insights

Arkansas_2023_roster-insights



Team Roster Turnover by Position  (24 from 2022 roster not on fall roster, 29 new players)

Arkansas_2023_Player_attrition_Turnover_Overview

Outgoing Players (Reasons for leaving)

Unknown Reason is a placeholder, player transfers are contingent on the availability of target school roster

Arkansas_2023_Player_attrition_Outgoing_Player

Outgoing Players by Position and grad class



Arkansas_2023_Player_attrition_Outgoing_Players_by_position

2023 Incoming Recruiting Class  (overall, transfers 4 yr vs 2 yr)

Arkansas_2023_Player_attrition_Incoming_Players

2023 Incoming Recruiting Class  by position

Arkansas_2023_Player_attrition_Incoming_Players_by_position



6 yr attrition trend,   note ignore 2017, this is CBI's first yr

Arkansas_2023_Player_attrition_incoming_player_History_Trend



Total No. of Transfers on Fall roster (by transfer school, position and grad class

Arkansas_2023_Transfer_Details

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  • Arkansas_2023_Player_attrition_Incoming_Players_by_position
  • Arkansas_2023_Player_attrition_Outgoing_Player
  • Arkansas_2023_Player_attrition_Outgoing_Players_by_position
  • Arkansas_2023_Player_attrition_Turnover_Overview

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