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D donnie10+ posts
Hey Cleveland,
No, not at all, I have enjoyed all of your posts. I just find it fsscinating that in this big 'ol USA the huge differences in culture and heroes taught to each of us by our folks. I think these differences get real small when someone else like an Iran or Iraq harbour hate for Americans. Remember that old Charlie Daniels song, something about "we may have done a little fighting amongst ourselves" but when somebody else butts in watch out.
Jesse James was and is today a legend. He was a guerilla fighter in Misouri, (southern Loyalist) and wrecked havoc on the Union forces stationed in Misouri, especially western counties such as Clay.He was notoriusly uncatchable, and became criminal AFTER his elderly mother and simple minded brother were firebombed in their meager house for not detailing Jesse and his brother Franks whereabouts. ( A modern day Ruby Ridge or Waco) Any assault on family or women in those days was very,very rare. He robbed a lot of banks, and killed many people, and was on a hellbent to get even for the war and his family. Really altogather, a sad day in Missouri and for that matter our country. That conflict cost about 700,000 of our best as a nation. I do wonder at times why it is politically incorrect to be Southern? We were always taught to be proud. Cleveland, you can always private message me so we can get back to just "famous" people.
2Bmom2Bmom1,000+ posts
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He was a guerilla fighter in Misouri, (southern Loyalist) and wrecked havoc on the Union forces stationed in Misouri, especially western counties such as Clay.He was notoriusly uncatchable, and became criminal AFTER his elderly mother and simple minded brother were firebombed in their meager house


donnie, did he ever send anyone on a Missouri boat ride?



"You gonna pull them pistols or whistle Dixie?"

Sorry - couldn't resist! Big Grin
2Bmom2Bmom1,000+ posts
Hey - I just realized - I'm (nearly) famous! I met Pat Day after the 1990 Blue Grass Stakes. I was the exercise rider for this guy:

1990 Preakness Stakes - Summer Squall

And down the stretch they come!

I actually taught him to break from the gate and rode him in a quarter mile amateur race when he was just a baby in Aiken, SC. He finished third then, but it took me half a mile to pull him up. Three weeks later, he won his very first professional race, 6 furlongs at Churchill Downs, by 11 lengths. And the rest is history. Smile
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ClevelandDadClevelandDadHSBBWeb Administrator
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Originally posted by donnie:
Hey Cleveland,
No, not at all, I have enjoyed all of your posts. I just find it fsscinating that in this big 'ol USA the huge differences in culture and heroes taught to each of us by our folks. I think these differences get real small when someone else like an Iran or Iraq harbour hate for Americans. Remember that old Charlie Daniels song, something about "we may have done a little fighting amongst ourselves" but when somebody else butts in watch out.
Jesse James was and is today a legend. He was a guerilla fighter in Misouri, (southern Loyalist) and wrecked havoc on the Union forces stationed in Misouri, especially western counties such as Clay.He was notoriusly uncatchable, and became criminal AFTER his elderly mother and simple minded brother were firebombed in their meager house for not detailing Jesse and his brother Franks whereabouts. ( A modern day Ruby Ridge or Waco) Any assault on family or women in those days was very,very rare. He robbed a lot of banks, and killed many people, and was on a hellbent to get even for the war and his family. Really altogather, a sad day in Missouri and for that matter our country. That conflict cost about 700,000 of our best as a nation. I do wonder at times why it is politically incorrect to be Southern? We were always taught to be proud. Cleveland, you can always private message me so we can get back to just "famous" people.

donnie - I appreciate your response! Smile

We are indeed brothers in this great country of ours! Sorry if I sounded like I was offended because I was not - just trying to clarify where you were coming from - thanks Smile
F fsmjunior100+ posts
My Fraternity little "Brother" is Zane Lamprey. He hosts an almost famous show on cable called "Three Sheets" about drinking around the world. Cool job if you can pull it off.

One other interesting note. My family tree goes back 13 generations to 1642(?) or some year near to that. Landed in Mass only 20 short years after the Mayflower. Talk about having roots!
CM Coach May1,000+ posts
I am related to David May. In fact he is my father. He was born in 1930 one of 14 children in Henderson NC. They were share croppers. He quit school at the age of 9 to work the fields to put food on the table. He walked out of the tobacco fields bare foot at the age of 18 to join the Army. He got his GED in the Army and fought in the Korean War and in Vietnam. He made Command Sergeant Major before he retired. He raised a family of four boys and was a loving husband to my mom for over 25 years. After retiring from the Army he spent the rest of his life getting up at 4am and carrying the mail as a rural mailman. He was the most awesome dad you could ever had. He was my best friend.

He is the most famous person I know. I got his autograph! There was no way I was ever going to look up to any other man. No one could ever match up to him in my eyes.
J HJ H5,000+ posts
Dave Debusschere, former Knicks player and NBA Hall of Famer, was my great uncle by marriage (on Mom's side). Dad tells the story about on their second date they were at a restaurant in midtown Manhattan and some of the Knicks walked in. Upon recognizing my mom (Uncle Dave was Director of Basketball Operations for the Knicks at the time), the players came right over to the table and said hello and asked my parents to come sit with them. Dad says that was when he knew he had to marry her.

Interesting little tidbit some don't know: Dave Debusschere played 12 years in the NBA and was inducted into the HOF in 1983. But he also played Major League Baseball. He pitched for two years, 1962-63 for the White Sox, and had career totals of 3 wins, 4 losses and a 2.90 ERA. He was also the youngest coach in NBA history when he was named player coach of the Pistons in 1964, at age 24
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T Tooldforthis100+ posts
Most Famous (or more to the point infamous) Clement Laird Vallandigham was the leader of the Copperheads against Lincoln during the Civil war. Was arrested and sent to the South by Lincoln and was sent from the South to Canada. Came back after the Civil war and became Governor of Ohio. Had a book (short story) written about him by Edward Everett Hale called " The Man Without A Country. He was a great great great uncle.
The funny part of the story was his nephew was my great grandfather who was an officer in the Union Army. He gave my father his belt buckle from the Union army when he was 12 years old in 1932 along with a letter which my dad gave to my son on his 12th birthday.
CADadCADad5,000+ posts
One ancestor was a member of the Army of the republic of Texas. He received his discharge papers and land grant from Sam Houston whereupon they went for a drink. He gambled away the land grant. He was also involved in the Black Bean incident when after capturing a town in Mexico they were in turn captured by Santa Anna. This band of soldiers was variously described as patriotic heroes and desperadoes of the worst kind. They promised not to attempt to escape in return for not being put in chains. They attempted to escape and Santa Anna ordered that they all be executed. His officers pleaded for leniency and he agreed that "only" 1 in 10 would be executed. They drew beans from a guord and all of those who drew a black bean were shot by firing squad. My ancestor drew a white bean and spent several years in a prison in Mexico before the Texans secured his release. He went on to fight for the confederacy and to be a Texas Ranger. I believe he is also listed in a book titled "Great Lovers of the Old West".

Another ancestor founded Hallet's Cove which later became Astoria.
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TRhitTRhit10,000+ posts
No famous relatives in baseball but a gentleman I considered an "uncle"--my grandfather used to take me flounder fishing as a kid with his buddy Clint Blume---Mr Blume was in the bigs in 1922 and 23 as a pitcher with the NY Giants---his career record for the two years was 3-0 with a 3.75 ERA--- even today I fondly look back on those trips--great fishing and great fun and boy could my grandmother cook them flounder

Also at age 12 had a LL coach who played in the Brooklyn Dodger chain all the way up to Triple A and played with Chuck Connors and Jackie Robinson in Montral, then the Dodgers Triple A team
CS coach scotty10+ posts
I am glad this thread was bumped as a newbie it was a very interesting read.

No famous people on my side but my wife is kin to John Sigenthaler and therefor of coarse John Sigenthaler Jr.

For the civil war junkies my wife is also kin to Mary Kate Patterson Davis Hill Kyle. Oh yeah long name apparently she never drop old ones and just kept them. Her Original name was Mary Kate Patterson, picked up Davis with her first marriage to John Davis (brother of Sam Davis), got Hill from her second marriage (man unknown), and Kyle from her third marriage to Colonel Robert Kyle. She was never divorced just widowed. Anyway she was a confederate spy (quite famous one around here). In Nashville, TN the have a confederate circle where many TN generals are buried and she is the only woman.

As I said I have no famous relatives but I do have an interesting story in the good and bad of my blood line. I had a great great great grandfather that was a prominent member of the Klu Klux Klan. He hung another of my 3 great grandfathers for using his home as a safe haven in the underground rail road. Their kids met at the hanging and ran off together. They were my great grandparents and loved to tell this story to me when I was young.
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