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TR- just incomprehensible how you still insist that there is "no proof of anything".

barroid himself has admitted to using "the clear" and "the cream". He just used the Palmiero defense and claims he didn't know they were steroids. He thought "the clear" was flaxseed oil and "the cream" was just some "balm" bgrroll

As far as the fan, no excuse for that behavior.
But, barroid picking up the syringe without knowing what might have been in it-not too bright. But, then again, he apparently thinks flaxseed oil can cause your head to increase by two hat sizes (and that never seemed to concern him) body-builder
TR, the wide open spaces of Texas don't compare to the wide open spaces between your... Naahhhh. Too easy, just like shooting fish in a barrel. Big Grin

Are you going to start with that stuff again? Two can play that game. But I don't think it is necessary or productive.

I guess tr & Bonds are the only two left in the world who are still in a state of denial.

HeyBatter has it right.
I shudder to think how many HR's Hank, Babe, Frank, Willie, etc etc etc with these supplements but I still believe in the players even who participated and see no justification whatsoever of all the stonethrowing. I guarantee you not one person in this world can cast the first stone and are judging themselves by egging on media extravaganzas, IMHO. peace

TR, I'm with you on this one.

Sincerely,
Shep
Shep- you hit the nail on the head. barry made the exact point. he told reporters they had no right to question him unless their "houses" were totally in order.

trouble is though that no wrongdoing can ever be questioned in following that path...

and again, bonds has admitted to taking the stuff, just not KNOWINGLY doing it. That's just lawyer speak to avoid intent, which is an element of most crimes.

as to the harm in this and the "stonethrowing" well, there's an old saying in baseball that if you ain't cheatin', you ain't trying. However, that used to refer to throwing the spitter, stealing a sign, maybe even corking a bat.

Unfortunately, the level this is at is the ingesting of drugs that can have devestating negative effects on you and to that end, you have youngsters following their heroes and take this stuff like it's candy. That's the danger, that's the problem.

Destruction of baseball's sacred records by barroid noidea
barroid and others making money off all this garbage noidea
18 year old kids destroying their lives, committing suicide, etc. etc. all to be like barroid, all to make the team, to think this will get 'em to the show-all too real and all too sad.
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