I’m glad they are going to give the kids a chance to play. I just hope they have a realistic plan for positive tests. Right or wrong, I’d rather them not start if they are going to shut down over a positive. I have no idea what the plan is, just stating my opinion. I’m also not sure south Florida will be able to participate since they are still pretty high in cases.
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According to our wonderful Governor, anyone can come and play sports in Florida!
In Louisiana, they are tentatively shooting for October for all Fall sports, but it will depend on conditions on the ground. It also depends on the sport. The conditions for each phase of sports to resume is quite extensive. I think cross country is already given the green light, but football will need to get into the next phase to start contact in practice.
@Viking0 posted:In Louisiana, they are tentatively shooting for October for all Fall sports, but it will depend on conditions on the ground. It also depends on the sport. The conditions for each phase of sports to resume is quite extensive. I think cross country is already given the green light, but football will need to get into the next phase to start contact in practice.
Sounds like a sensible approach. Personally, I want to see the kids playing. I’m perfectly fine though if certain areas want to delay. I just hate the start and stop approach.
@TerribleBPthrower posted:I’m glad they are going to give the kids a chance to play. I just hope they have a realistic plan for positive tests. Right or wrong, I’d rather them not start if they are going to shut down over a positive. I have no idea what the plan is, just stating my opinion. I’m also not sure south Florida will be able to participate since they are still pretty high in cases.
Good for FL, I hope they stick it out all the way.
I had a long ride home by myself from my daughter’s house to think about Sports and it’s role in our lives. It probably is too much. But trying to understand others point of view, I asked myself, “Is it worth playing with the perceived risks of Covid-19”.
I know my answer, but wanted to understand why I think different than some others.
I thought back to seeing Darryl Stingley’s grandson win a national championship with LSU this year. I remember watching a Monday night football game with my dad as a young boy where they honored Darryl a year after his injury, crippled for life in a preseason game that ultimately lead to an untimely death. Didn't stop his son or grandson from playing ball. As a kid, I remember being so shocked that people still participated knowing that danger.
A few year later, I felt similar when I watched Du Ku Kim lose the fight and his life to Ray Mancini in the boxing ring. At different points in time we progressed to Hank Gathers and Reggie Lewis on the basketball court, dying during a game and practice, respectively. Later I saw Dale Earnhardt crash into a wall during the 500. More recently we heard about untimely deaths of Mike Webster, Junior Seau, Andre Waters, Kosta Karageorge (the OSU football player that shot himself in the head in Columbus over Thanksgiving Weekend and inspired OSU to destroy everyone that stood in their way to the first FBS playoff championship) and others all attributable to CTE.
To me, anyone of those events seemed more than enough to give pause to those sports, as the deaths were inherent to the sports they played. But they didn’t. People know the risks and continue to play and participate. Many of us have grown to accept it. But canceling or pausing a sport over the remote risk of testing positive for a virus that for more than 99.9% of participants will be little more than a sniffle and 99.99% will survive from (those are facts not hyperbole)...well, we should be asking ourselves, “Why now?”
So yes, FHSAA, and every other school and sport at every level should be playing. Not playing sports over Covid, makes as much sense as not going to work as an “Ice Road Trucker” because you might trip on the curb on the way into your rig.
I can’t believe I’m bothering to write this, but whatever.....
The difference between all these cases you cited and COVID-19, Pedaldad, is that no kid is able to catch CTE from another kid without either knowing their are a carrier. And those kids aren’t able to take CTE home to their dad, their mom, their grandfather with immunodeficiency, or their infant sister. Or to their school, thereby spreading it where it ultimately ends up infecting their favorite calc teacher who happens to have diabetes, killing them or leaving them impaired permanently.
I am not saying that one should or shouldn’t be playing sports this fall. For us, it’s a choice that we made this summer for our kids, and are making again this fall. But it sure as hell isn’t a choice we are taking lightly, and it isn’t as simple as you make it out to be.
The only other thing to say is that, from all accounts, far fewer kids are choosing to play football than used to do so even 10 years ago. Got this from google:
https://www.statista.com/stati...n-the-us-since-2006/
There are lots of news articles about this. For some people, the benefits will outweigh the risks, for others, they won't. Some schools are dropping football because they can no longer field a team. If you choose to play football, you accept those risks - no-one is making anyone do it, but you're only choosing the risk for yourself.
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@Senna posted:Anotherparent, beg to differ, but you (applied to the student/athlete) are also choosing the risk for all those at home, in your social circle, your coaches, and anyone else you come in regular contact with (to varying degrees, depending on your adherence to distancing and mask wearing).
Like I said, it ain’t simple.
I didn't think AP was speaking about CoVid about football and CTE.
@Senna posted:Anotherparent, beg to differ, but you (applied to the student/athlete) are also choosing the risk for all those at home, in your social circle, your coaches, and anyone else you come in regular contact with (to varying degrees, depending on your adherence to distancing and mask wearing).
Like I said, it ain’t simple.
Yep, I meant you choose to take the CTE risks, that's the difference between CTE and an infectious disease like covid.
TPM/anotherparent, my mistake. Misread the post. 
Our high school's football season kicks off in less than 2 weeks. There hasn't been any indication that it is going to be postponed or canceled.
@Senna posted:I can’t believe I’m bothering to write this, but whatever.....
The difference between all these cases you cited and COVID-19, Pedaldad, is that no kid is able to catch CTE from another kid without either knowing their are a carrier. And those kids aren’t able to take CTE home to their dad, their mom, their grandfather with immunodeficiency, or their infant sister. Or to their school, thereby spreading it where it ultimately ends up infecting their favorite calc teacher who happens to have diabetes, killing them or leaving them impaired permanently.
I am not saying that one should or shouldn’t be playing sports this fall. For us, it’s a choice that we made this summer for our kids, and are making again this fall. But it sure as hell isn’t a choice we are taking lightly, and it isn’t as simple as you make it out to be.
I'm surprised you didn't think that I (and most of us) already thought of this. One problem is that it suggests that you're ok with the much more prevalent and devastating risks associated with playing sports, heat exhaustion, fatal trauma, and CTE. And I assure you that I would be much more devastated if one of my children (or yours) was paralyzed, killed, or suffered from CTE than I would be if they gave me Covid.
Check with Chris Benoit's remaining family that saw a double murder suicide attributed to his CTE. Check with Hank Gathers' son and see if he frets more over Covid or the father he never knew. Check with my sister that saw her teenage son spend 3 years treated for concussion related headaches and mood outbursts that nearly destroyed her family. No, this didn't affect her, her husband or her other two sons, it was all just fine for them.
But these personal (my own or others), isolated incidents are no more relevant than your hypotheticals. The bottom line is that life is full of risks and the real risks of these injuries outweigh the perceived risks of Covid.
@Pedaldad posted:I'm surprised you didn't think that I (and most of us) already thought of this. One problem is that it suggests that you're ok with the much more prevalent and devastating risks associated with playing sports, heat exhaustion, fatal trauma, and CTE. And I assure you that I would be much more devastated if one of my children (or yours) was paralyzed, killed, or suffered from CTE than I would be if they gave me Covid.
Check with Chris Benoit's remaining family that saw a double murder suicide attributed to his CTE. Check with Hank Gathers' son and see if he frets more over Covid or the father he never knew. Check with my sister that saw her teenage son spend 3 years treated for concussion related headaches and mood outbursts that nearly destroyed her family. No, this didn't affect her, her husband or her other two sons, it was all just fine for them.
But these personal (my own or others), isolated incidents are no more relevant than your hypotheticals. The bottom line is that life is full of risks and the real risks of these injuries outweigh the perceived risks of Covid.
Sheesh. Read my second paragraph again. Bye.
@Senna posted:Sheesh. Read my second paragraph again. Bye.
I don't know what to say, my entire last post directly addresses your 2nd paragraph. Perhaps your 2nd paragraph doesn't say what you think it does?
