For those have or had a son playing in college

IMO College Camps can be great. However, I have to agree with prepster and BOF. It is all about learning... Every player is going to learn something at a good college camp. Now this learning experience may differ from one camper to the next. Some will learn how to play better. Some will learn more about the coaching staff and the school. Some will learn that they have interested the coaches or not. But in all cases a young player will learn something.

I do believe that going to camps as some kind of a tryout could work, but the facts just don't prove that out. In most cases those recruited have already been discovered before they attend a camp. Example... nearly 90% of all players on the rosters of the College World Series teams this year had attended showcases and tournaments run by a single (unnamed)organization. I'm sure that several of the other 10% were seen somewhere as well.

I think where people get confused is when they find out how many recruited players attended camps at that school. Truth is, those players were (in most cases) identified before hand. It stands to reason that colleges are going to try hard to get the kids they want to their camps. Wouldn't any of us if we were in their shoes?

All that said... If a player is extremely talented he could definitely cause some serious interest at a camp. In fact, we have college coaches who report those kids to us at times. One other thing... There is two major reasons why we sell so many scouting packs to college coaches at certain events. The obvious reason is so the recruiters have more information on the players including contact info. The not so obvious reason is that these lists become a great source of revenue and becopme mailing lists for college camps and other events. Just think... for around a $100 a college coach has admittance to every field for a week in Georgia where he can see hundreds of potential recruits and he has a contact (mailing/email/phone) list of thousands of very talented players. That is called saving a ton of recruiting budget money while at the same time picking up a great source of producing a lot of revenue through their camps and other activities.

Camps are great... Don't expect any miracles... Get everything you can out of them.

Area Code tryout, then followed to TOS and EC Pro

Just noticed the title...
For those have or had a son playing in college
BTW, Just so I qualify for this discussion, I have had three sons who played college athletics.

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Originally posted by PGStaff:
Just noticed the title...
For those have or had a son playing in college
BTW, Just so I qualify for this discussion, I have had three sons who played college athletics.

Is that ALL?!

Yes, but none were highly recruited. So maybe that eliminates me from the discussion.

LOL

I don't think so.



Now, get back to work on that 2013 list!

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Originally posted by carmelpitcher:
Arizona Fall Classic...

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GED10DaD

GR, glad you bumped this. I was looking for it to bump but couldn't find it.

Arizona Fall Classic....

SelectFest - NJ

Summer before junior year: Headfirst

September of junior year: college camp run by "School A", who noticed him at Headfirst. Other participating schools were not on his radar.

January of junior year: college camp run by league rival of "School A", also attended by some additional schools that WERE on his radar.

Next September: attend and pitch for "School A"

(Plus three years of Ft. Meyers, Jupiter, Marietta, etc. Didn't hurt, was tons of fun, but don't know how much it factored into where he wound up.)

I wish I could claim that the whole process was scripted out and well-designed, but it's not the case. The whole process, though stressful for all involved, fell into place and couldn't have worked out better. HS Baseball Web's forums were a Godsend and helped guide us immeasurably.

School A - PG National Academic and National Underclass then School A camp
School B through H - Headfirst (some were also at PG)

School A hedged after son had an injury
School E through F offered Official visits

After school B official visit, son says the heck with school A, I want to go to School B.

DONE!

We were clueless - HeadFirst helped my son tremedously!

PG Showcase summer before senior year

bump.  from what I can gather from these posts, they seem to be about where a kid was first seen by the school he ended up playing for.  At least, I think that's what the thread is about.  The further into it you go, the more interesting it gets.

 

Absolutely no idea...lol.   We hadn't heard a word from the school up until July 1 of his junior summer.  No replies to numerous emails...nothing (even though school is 45 min from us).  Coach called about 4pm and said "we've seen you play several times and really like what we see...we'd like to get you up for a visit".   Have never remembered to ask RC where he first saw him....maybe I'll remember to ask this weekend if I get a chance.

Had a kid in college.  Before college he played for 2 of the top showcase  (National championship caliber) teams in the country at many tournaments like East Cobb and Jupiter.  D1 interest-0%.  He attended several college camps, interest-0%.  He attended a showcase put on by a local D3, lots of D3 interest but D1-0%.  Coach who ran showcase called a Juco and got him a scholarship there.  After freshman year 5-6 D1 offers.  He accepted one.  After Junior year drafted.  Somehow he got overlooked.  I am not sure he ever got ranked by PG.

 

To be fair I also know of several kids on his D1 that went to a camp at that school and got offers as a result of the camp.  I know of others who also got offers from attending camps, you just have to be sure you are attending one that fits your ability.

 

I also know of players that got offers by having a D1 coach call their showcase coach and tell them he needs a player in a certain position, then offered sight unseen trusting the showcase coach he'd be truthful.  I also know of players who got offered at big tournaments.

 

I guess the point is everyone is different and your best bet is to cover all your bases.

Son's HS coach worked to get my son a look by a JuCo coach that had a very reputable program.

 

He was "noticed" by the D2 coach he would eventually sign with via his stats posted on NJCAA.  The one stat that stood out was # of doubles.  He finished his sophomore year ranked 2nd in the nation among the D2 JuCo players in # of doubles.  He also broke the school record in that category.  He also had a very good batting and slugging averages.

 

Up to that point several D3, one other D2 and one D1 had approached him about playing for their respective schools, no real offers.

We got very lucky- 0 PG events, 0 Camps, he played on a quality travel team- D1 RC saw him (travel team coach told the RC about him)- offered and committed before his Junior year...(just happened to be his dream school...)

We were down at a PG event in Ft Myers, I believe it was an Underclass Qualifier. Son had a great game and there were several scouts there. This was fall of his junior year. Accepted a verbal a few weeks later. Good stuff. College Freshman this year.

First time was at Showball MEGA Camp in Ft. Myers,FL December of sophomore year.

 

Subsequent "viewings" were at Showball the next December, HeadFirst, Tops96, one day defensive drills camp held by recruiter of University, High School and American Legion games.

Please find out where they saw him and when in the recruiting process.  We're in the pre contact period of recruiting and we get the thank you for the email jargon & next camp is on X date.  But then those email responses jive with more views on my son's Utube video links.

Anybody have any analytic package with your Utube account that tells you the geographic location of the viewer?  (it will show city or county, nothing more.)

Thanks