a foul ball hits home plate and than the player in the chest bounces fair in front of plate is it a fair ball or foul
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FOUL BALL!
Unless the batter is somehow out of the box when the ball hits him, in which case he's out.
a foul ball hits home plate...
The plate is in fair territory, so still fair and live ball at the point that it hits the plate.
Assuming he's still inside the batter's box when it hits him, it's a foul ball.
If somehow he exited the box before touching the ball, (a) if contact occurred in foul territory, it's foul, (b) if contact occurred in fair territory, it's fair and he's out due to interference.
Batter was hit while still in the box after bouncing off plate should have been foul right? he did run for first after the catcher was told to thow to first since the ump never called foul he stated ball landed fair,andt that it didn't matter that batter was still in the box
Originally Posted by 2hawks:
Batter was hit while still in the box after bouncing off plate should have been foul right? he did run for first after the catcher was told to thow to first since the ump never called foul he stated ball landed fair,andt that it didn't matter that batter was still in the box
Yes foul if it hit him while still in the box. If ump called him out at 1st, then he must have judged that the ball didn't make contact with him. Sometimes a tough angle for the plate ump... But field ump can usually get it right if asked.
I don't know how umps read this play sometimes. I used to tell my players to stay in the box if they were hit, and let themselves react to the pain. Both give the umpire evidence that it's a foul ball.
Originally Posted by JCG:
I don't know how umps read this play sometimes. I used to tell my players to stay in the box if they were hit, and let themselves react to the pain. Both give the umpire evidence that it's a foul ball.
It's hard to tell for sure -- you (the ump) are tracking the ball into the glove and all of a sudden it's down there -- and often the contact is away from you.
This call is missed (both wrongly called foul and wrongly allowed to stand) in the pros -- so don't expect me to get it right. lol.
I think that the rule should be changed so that the ball is still live when it hits the batter in this situation -- and becomes fair or foul based on what happens next (where it goes, where it's touched, etc. -- just like any batted ball). It will never happen though.