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Who's right in this situation?

2-1 count, runner on 3rd, squeeze play is on. Batter foul tips the bunt attempt, our catcher catches the ball and tags the runner out. The umpire called it a dead ball and had the runner go back to 3rd. We argued that the runner should be out and that the pitch was a live pitch.
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Originally posted by Welpe:
Just for clarity, did the tipped ball go directly to the catcher's glove?


The only difference this would make is whether the batter is out. Whether it was a foul tip or a foul fly that was caught, the runner would be out (assuming in both situations the runner was tagged before touching the plate).
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Originally posted by yawetag:
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Originally posted by Welpe:
Just for clarity, did the tipped ball go directly to the catcher's glove?


The only difference this would make is whether the batter is out. Whether it was a foul tip or a foul fly that was caught, the runner would be out (assuming in both situations the runner was tagged before touching the plate).

If the tipped ball did not go directly to the catcher's mitt, it would be a foul ball. Neither the batter nor the runner would be out and the count would be 2-2. R3 would return.
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Originally posted by dash_riprock:
If the tipped ball did not go directly to the catcher's mitt, it would be a foul ball. Neither the batter nor the runner would be out and the count would be 2-2. R3 would return.


I guess I should qualify. If the batted ball remained in flight before going into the catcher's glove, it's one of two calls: out or foul tip. In both of the situations, a runner subsequently tagged before touching home plate would be out.
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Originally posted by luv baseball:
If the bunt was "popped up" rather than a "tip" as a foul ball and caught wouldn't it become an appeal on the runner from third for not tagging up? If so getting tagged for the out is all that's required not before he touches the plate.


Correct. I was just using the same situation for both cases. In a foul tip situation, there would not be an appeal and the runner touching the plate before being tagged would be safe.
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Originally posted by yawetag:
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Originally posted by dash_riprock:
If the tipped ball did not go directly to the catcher's mitt, it would be a foul ball. Neither the batter nor the runner would be out and the count would be 2-2. R3 would return.


I guess I should qualify. If the batted ball remained in flight before going into the catcher's glove, it's one of two calls: out or foul tip. In both of the situations, a runner subsequently tagged before touching home plate would be out.


Yes of course but if the ball is tipped back without a perceptible arc, and hits say the catcher's mask before being gloved, then it is a foul ball.

Hence why I asked. Smile
Last edited by Welpe
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Originally posted by coachbluem:
Who's right in this situation?

2-1 count, runner on 3rd, squeeze play is on. Batter foul tips the bunt attempt, our catcher catches the ball and tags the runner out. The umpire called it a dead ball and had the runner go back to 3rd. We argued that the runner should be out and that the pitch was a live pitch.


You are correct and the umpire needs to get in the rulebook.
Loyd
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Originally posted by gobama84:
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Originally posted by coachbluem:
Who's right in this situation?

2-1 count, runner on 3rd, squeeze play is on. Batter foul tips the bunt attempt, our catcher catches the ball and tags the runner out. The umpire called it a dead ball and had the runner go back to 3rd. We argued that the runner should be out and that the pitch was a live pitch.


You are correct and the umpire needs to get in the rulebook.
Loyd


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