Jim Croce is fine, but I'd rather get my sentimental groove on with RUSH.
Time Stand Still
I turn my back to the wind
To catch my breath,
Before I start off again
Driven on,
Without a moment to spend
To pass an evening
With a drink and a friend
I let my skin get too thin
Id like to pause,
No matter what I pretend
Like some pilgrim --
Who learns to transcend --
Learns to live
As if each step was the end
Time stand still --
Im not looking back
But I want to look around me now
See more of the people
And the places that surround me now
Freeze this moment
A little bit longer
Make each sensation
A little bit stronger
Experience slips away...
I turn my face to the sun
Close my eyes,
Let my defences down --
All those wounds
That I cant get unwound
I let my past go too fast
No time to pause --
If I could slow it all down
Like some captain,
Whose ship runs aground --
I can wait until the tide
Comes around
Make each impression
A little bit stronger
Freeze this motion
A little bit longer
The innocence slips away...
Summers going fast --
Nights growing colder
Children growing up --
Old friends growing older
Experience slips away...
Thanks for the comments. The funny thing is that when we were looking at schools we thought we were very careful with what each coach was telling us. We also looked at a scenario where we wanted him at a school that he could continue at, if he were injured which is why we ruled out the first school. We just didn't look forward and realize that a minor injury could keep him from playing varsity college baseball. We knew the school he chose would be more of a challenge but it was to be a challenge to start, not to be on the team. Again we thought we asked the right questions, we're just not sure we got the correct answers. We will deal with this though. Thanks again for your comments.
KM there is absolutely nothing you can do to gaurentee a spot on a roster except out play the other guy in the eyes of the coach. You can ask all the questions you want and you will get answers that suit your needs but the reality is that nothing is quarenteed.
We have been discussing this for ever. Every guy who shows up except a few were the studs on their HS and travel teams. Even great performances don't always equate into a roster spot or playing time.
1st I would have your son talk to the coach and see if he would have a chance next year. If not then start looking for another college. Your son may have to sit but I am not sure on D111. He is young enough that the year won't be too long and he can get some credits and possible work in to save some money. If it is that important I would look into a transfer as soon as possible. The AD could tell you more about the transfer.
We have been discussing this for ever. Every guy who shows up except a few were the studs on their HS and travel teams. Even great performances don't always equate into a roster spot or playing time.
1st I would have your son talk to the coach and see if he would have a chance next year. If not then start looking for another college. Your son may have to sit but I am not sure on D111. He is young enough that the year won't be too long and he can get some credits and possible work in to save some money. If it is that important I would look into a transfer as soon as possible. The AD could tell you more about the transfer.
Koosman,
Welcome to the HSBBW.
I agree with BHD, there is nothing you can do to guarantee a spot on any roster but show up and be ready to compete, no matter if there are 2 or 6 that you have to compete against. It happens to everyone, even those with very good scholarships.
It took my son two years to get to be a weekend starter. So this is just not limited and frustrating for position players. You can ask my friend Justbaseball about that.
Yes, our sons circumstances most likely were different, but in HS mine was the "ace" for his HS as well as his travel team, yet found it very difficult to win that position in college. And he knew how difficult it would be. I know how your son must feel, for mine it was tough to be a relief pitcher when he always were a starter. And there were some very, very good pitchers on his team who were the top dogs in HS, only to earn a few innings, their first, even second year.
Your son came in with an injury. Coaches want their players coming into the fall healthy. I am assuming that if your son was healthy he would have had a better chance, this is not the coaches fault. I am thinking that if it was my player, take a JV position as a pitcher and work for a spot on the varsity squad, if this was where he wanted to go to school. I am not so sure that looking to go play somewhere else is ALWAYS the solution. Very rarely do freshman get starting positions, anywhere.
I am not sure if you realized that D3 schools, with no athletic scholarships, can and will invite as many as they feel necessary to try out for their team. I was told the reason for this was because, like JUCO's, they are never really sure who will or who will not show up. This also is not uncommon for many D1 programs, even with giving out scholarships. There are a lot of players who want to play college baseball and not enough positions. And from what I have learned, very few opportunities in baseball are just handed to you, if you are a top talented player, you have to work hard to prove that, if you are average, you have to work very hard to show that you can compete with the best.
I understand your son being upset, however, considering that he did sustain an injury, why not take the opportunity to let it heal and take what has been offered. Think of it this way, he may just be a good enough pitcher to find his way onto the varsity rotation and there are many more pitchers needed than any other position. Or he may just prove, if he workd hard enough that he won't have to "try out" next year for a roster spot.
Welcome to the HSBBW.
I agree with BHD, there is nothing you can do to guarantee a spot on any roster but show up and be ready to compete, no matter if there are 2 or 6 that you have to compete against. It happens to everyone, even those with very good scholarships.
It took my son two years to get to be a weekend starter. So this is just not limited and frustrating for position players. You can ask my friend Justbaseball about that.
Yes, our sons circumstances most likely were different, but in HS mine was the "ace" for his HS as well as his travel team, yet found it very difficult to win that position in college. And he knew how difficult it would be. I know how your son must feel, for mine it was tough to be a relief pitcher when he always were a starter. And there were some very, very good pitchers on his team who were the top dogs in HS, only to earn a few innings, their first, even second year.
Your son came in with an injury. Coaches want their players coming into the fall healthy. I am assuming that if your son was healthy he would have had a better chance, this is not the coaches fault. I am thinking that if it was my player, take a JV position as a pitcher and work for a spot on the varsity squad, if this was where he wanted to go to school. I am not so sure that looking to go play somewhere else is ALWAYS the solution. Very rarely do freshman get starting positions, anywhere.
I am not sure if you realized that D3 schools, with no athletic scholarships, can and will invite as many as they feel necessary to try out for their team. I was told the reason for this was because, like JUCO's, they are never really sure who will or who will not show up. This also is not uncommon for many D1 programs, even with giving out scholarships. There are a lot of players who want to play college baseball and not enough positions. And from what I have learned, very few opportunities in baseball are just handed to you, if you are a top talented player, you have to work hard to prove that, if you are average, you have to work very hard to show that you can compete with the best.
I understand your son being upset, however, considering that he did sustain an injury, why not take the opportunity to let it heal and take what has been offered. Think of it this way, he may just be a good enough pitcher to find his way onto the varsity rotation and there are many more pitchers needed than any other position. Or he may just prove, if he workd hard enough that he won't have to "try out" next year for a roster spot.
BHD and TPM thanks for the info. You both seem like you have has a great deal of experience with this and I appreciate your input. We have talked about the same thing in terms of his health.He does plan to talk to the coach again. Based on the academics of the school our first choice is for him to stay and work through this. In every way this school is a great fit for him. I'm still not sure I agree with all of the recruiting practices, but that's behind us now and we need to move forward. Still if transfer is the way we go we will look into. I'll take you up BHD on talking to the AD. Thanks.
Koosman,
If your son chose the educational program over baseball, that is important. And that might be an important point to think about. I don't know what your son's goals are, but most do not play after teh college level. But it is his choice.
I know some may not agree with me on that.
Remember, it's pretty hard to go try to find another place to play asap when you actually haven't played yet.
If your son chose the educational program over baseball, that is important. And that might be an important point to think about. I don't know what your son's goals are, but most do not play after teh college level. But it is his choice.
I know some may not agree with me on that.
Remember, it's pretty hard to go try to find another place to play asap when you actually haven't played yet.
koosman,
This is an unfortunate situation, but let's look at the easy stuff first. From the NCAA eligibility point of view, it is possible to transfer mid-year, and be eligible this spring. That's true for D3 and D2. He does need to stay academically eligible. He needs to get permission from his current school to speak to other schools (and before he talks to them!) He also needs to get a transfer release from his present school. Some D3 schools use their sports programs as a way to augment their enrollment, and the existence of a JV baseball team is perhaps indicative of that practice. So his current school possibly may be resistant to permitting a transfer.
You can download the NCAA manuals for each division and read the details of how to transfer and retain baseball eligibility. There is also a NCAA Transfer Guide, but the download link is broken at the moment. A caution: you should check transfer eligibility more closely if he actually does decide to transfer. The opinions on an Internet message board--even this one--aren't necessarily correct. Call the NCAA.
The hard part is how to find a spot. Think about your son's present school. If a player wanted to transfer in mid-year sight-unseen, what's the likelihood that he could get a roster spot? If your son transfers, he needs to identify a school with a noticeably weaker baseball program in order to even have an opportunity to crack the roster this spring. On the other hand, if he stays at his present school, plays well (once healthy) on the JV team, he'll have the exposure to perhaps make the varsity team next year. He would also have the opportunity to transfer next fall. At least by playing JV this spring, he would keep his baseball skills sharp.
This is an unfortunate situation, but let's look at the easy stuff first. From the NCAA eligibility point of view, it is possible to transfer mid-year, and be eligible this spring. That's true for D3 and D2. He does need to stay academically eligible. He needs to get permission from his current school to speak to other schools (and before he talks to them!) He also needs to get a transfer release from his present school. Some D3 schools use their sports programs as a way to augment their enrollment, and the existence of a JV baseball team is perhaps indicative of that practice. So his current school possibly may be resistant to permitting a transfer.
You can download the NCAA manuals for each division and read the details of how to transfer and retain baseball eligibility. There is also a NCAA Transfer Guide, but the download link is broken at the moment. A caution: you should check transfer eligibility more closely if he actually does decide to transfer. The opinions on an Internet message board--even this one
--aren't necessarily correct. Call the NCAA. The hard part is how to find a spot. Think about your son's present school. If a player wanted to transfer in mid-year sight-unseen, what's the likelihood that he could get a roster spot? If your son transfers, he needs to identify a school with a noticeably weaker baseball program in order to even have an opportunity to crack the roster this spring. On the other hand, if he stays at his present school, plays well (once healthy) on the JV team, he'll have the exposure to perhaps make the varsity team next year. He would also have the opportunity to transfer next fall. At least by playing JV this spring, he would keep his baseball skills sharp.
Still at the start of this first year business so I hope to have more news about it later. My observations are:
1) Going away to college is a life event which has significant emotional reverberations. They know and we know that they have launched -- and that puts us all on uncertain ground. I know the dates of vacation and how ofter he will be home but there is no doubt that life is different for all of us.
2) The academic challenge is a great eye opener. Good grades and standardized tests became somewhat easy in high school. Reading about, discussing and balancing the societal importance of significant scientific advances (like the genome project) expose our students to a whole new level of critical thinking.
3) TPM's words about the bumps in the road are priceless. I find it hard that I am not able to watch with my own eyes so that I can try to evaluate for myself whether this is a bump or a mountain. But that is why we have to trust the coaches.
4)I am so sorry to hear about the horror story of an injured freshman. My son's experience at a Northesast DIII has been the opposite. The words used by the coach in the recruiting process seems to be consistent with what is going on now in the Fall. Son loves teammates. ALL players vets and Frosh are among the best people he has ever played with.
5) Miss him? When I walked downstairs to turn on the MLB playoffs and found wife and daughters watching "Project Runway" I knew I was in big trouble! On a serious note, I miss him much more than I had anticipated.
1) Going away to college is a life event which has significant emotional reverberations. They know and we know that they have launched -- and that puts us all on uncertain ground. I know the dates of vacation and how ofter he will be home but there is no doubt that life is different for all of us.
2) The academic challenge is a great eye opener. Good grades and standardized tests became somewhat easy in high school. Reading about, discussing and balancing the societal importance of significant scientific advances (like the genome project) expose our students to a whole new level of critical thinking.
3) TPM's words about the bumps in the road are priceless. I find it hard that I am not able to watch with my own eyes so that I can try to evaluate for myself whether this is a bump or a mountain. But that is why we have to trust the coaches.
4)I am so sorry to hear about the horror story of an injured freshman. My son's experience at a Northesast DIII has been the opposite. The words used by the coach in the recruiting process seems to be consistent with what is going on now in the Fall. Son loves teammates. ALL players vets and Frosh are among the best people he has ever played with.
5) Miss him? When I walked downstairs to turn on the MLB playoffs and found wife and daughters watching "Project Runway" I knew I was in big trouble! On a serious note, I miss him much more than I had anticipated.
Before my son went to college I hardly ever saw him. Usually took him to his BB, BKTB and other events but he was hardly ever home.
I have seen him play in college once in 3 years except last year on video and stream and I would like to forget that.
I will be leaving on the 16th to watch the fall WS for the 1st time in his SR year. He has been asking us to come so I can't miss it. I am not big on exhibition games but I am looking forward to seeing him. We talk almost evry night and if I don't talk to him I spend at least an hour talking to his girl friend. I find out a lot more from her than my son. They will both be here for Xmas and we saw them for a few eeks here over the summer.
My wife and I are quite happy empty nesters.
I have seen him play in college once in 3 years except last year on video and stream and I would like to forget that.
I will be leaving on the 16th to watch the fall WS for the 1st time in his SR year. He has been asking us to come so I can't miss it. I am not big on exhibition games but I am looking forward to seeing him. We talk almost evry night and if I don't talk to him I spend at least an hour talking to his girl friend. I find out a lot more from her than my son. They will both be here for Xmas and we saw them for a few eeks here over the summer.
My wife and I are quite happy empty nesters.
quote:At this point my son is crushed and feels he has lost all opportunity to play college ball (especially since he had other solid offers and let them go). We never expected a "tryout" nor was this ever explained by the coach for recruited players.
koosman - welcome to the hsbbweb - I feel your pain. Although it sounds like minds have been made up, let me suggest an alternative path - especially in light of the fact this school satisfies his academic requirements.
Every position at the collegiate level is a tryout. It makes no difference whether there are two recruited all-american kids in front of you or six other guys who may be there on a whim. The numbers are not the issue, talent is. Since your son has an injury, he might not have a great claim to a roster spot at this time. Maybe his first obligation is to get himself healthy before worrying about a roster spot. After getting his health back, encourage him to go out and earn a spot on the team. If water jugs need carried, then carry them. If fields need raked, then rake them. If balls need shagged, then shag them. Be the first guy at every practice and the last guy to leave. Be the guy that shows the biggest improvement in the weight room. Be the guy that shows the biggest improvement in his sixty yard dash time and his arm strength and his fielding abilities. Learn how to be the best hitter on the team. Learn how to be the leader of the team. These things might not pay off in the short run, but over time and based on your description of him as a player, I believe they will. Nothing is more satisfying than when they overcome these things.
I remember a Funny Freshman Fall phone call from son "I'm so sore I can't even sit on a toilet!" 
Nothing like 1000's of reps of squats, lunges, stadium sprints and running at the college level. Although he had come to school in relative good condition, this year he is better prepared.
No problemo!
Nothing like 1000's of reps of squats, lunges, stadium sprints and running at the college level. Although he had come to school in relative good condition, this year he is better prepared.
No problemo!
I know that you cant redshirt at D3 schools, BUT I do believe there can bean exception for a medical redshirt and then you dont burn a year of elgibility at a D3. Look into it , it can happen.
Thanks again to everyone for offering information and advice. Double Eagle, Glad to hear your experience has been different. One of the things I needed, was to hear opinions of others, especially those that have more experience at this than I do. We sometimes get caught up in our own situation that we lose sight of what is actually happening and can happen, down the road. We will continue urging him to stay and work this out especially since he likes the school, has developed great friendships, including those on the team and he likes the area. He has always found his way on the field because of his talent, hard work and attitude. His talent with the injury may have taken a hit (and his attitude off the field may have suffered because of it)but the other two components on the field remain strong. With the injury playing a large part of what has gone on, playing JV in the spring in front of the coach may not have been our number one preference, initially but it is not the worst position to be in where we sit now. If he decides to stay though we will continue to keep all options open and either way we will also pursue Summer Ball options though not exactly sure where to start.
I do have a question though on a couple of other comments mentioned and I'm not sure if this is the place to ask or maybe another thread, but let me ask. Based on these two quotes that follow (as found on the message board) what is the reality of try outs for recruited players at most colleges?
ClevelandDad writes:
hokieone writes: (From Ask About Colleges Thread- CNU)
Thanks.
I do have a question though on a couple of other comments mentioned and I'm not sure if this is the place to ask or maybe another thread, but let me ask. Based on these two quotes that follow (as found on the message board) what is the reality of try outs for recruited players at most colleges?
ClevelandDad writes:
quote:Every position at the collegiate level is a tryout. It makes no difference whether there are two recruited all-american kids in front of you or six other guys who may be there on a whim.
hokieone writes: (From Ask About Colleges Thread- CNU)
quote:They do not over-recruit; walk-ons occasionally make it, but as best I can recall, only 2 total during the past three seasons. Recruited players don't go through tryouts.
Thanks.
Koosman,
At D III level, there are schools such as my son's, where recruited players don't try out and get a roster spot for the first year (after that, they have to make it on performance but almost all do); there are also schools that have huge tryouts for most everyone-some seem to let players know in advance, others don't. There are I'm sure lots of schools in between the two extremes. It's all about doing the homework on various colleges, but it's isn't possible to learn everything in advance and you can do everything right and still end up with a bad experience.
If your son likes the school, perhaps get healthy and try out again next year. He still has three years left, maybe 4 with a medical redshirt.
Mid-year transfers are doable at D III, but it'd take a pretty impressive knock the socks off January to earn PT immediately over the guys the coaches saw all fall, with the exception of pitchers, always in demand everywhere. Cleveland dad is correct, it is all about performance as far as playing time goes. Baseball is cruel-no free substitution as with football and basketball, so opportunities may not come often and if missed, may not re-occur too soon. Every guy on the field has 2-3 others hopeful of winning his spot away. That's just the nature of the game.
At D III level, there are schools such as my son's, where recruited players don't try out and get a roster spot for the first year (after that, they have to make it on performance but almost all do); there are also schools that have huge tryouts for most everyone-some seem to let players know in advance, others don't. There are I'm sure lots of schools in between the two extremes. It's all about doing the homework on various colleges, but it's isn't possible to learn everything in advance and you can do everything right and still end up with a bad experience.
If your son likes the school, perhaps get healthy and try out again next year. He still has three years left, maybe 4 with a medical redshirt.
Mid-year transfers are doable at D III, but it'd take a pretty impressive knock the socks off January to earn PT immediately over the guys the coaches saw all fall, with the exception of pitchers, always in demand everywhere. Cleveland dad is correct, it is all about performance as far as playing time goes. Baseball is cruel-no free substitution as with football and basketball, so opportunities may not come often and if missed, may not re-occur too soon. Every guy on the field has 2-3 others hopeful of winning his spot away. That's just the nature of the game.
Younggun has been gone now coming up on 2 months.
He has learned VERY quickly that the Professor's actually DO talk with the Coaches on a regular basis!
It is quite frustrating to not actually know HOW he is doing in his classes so all I can do is trust him when he says he is doing fine. He knows that he must be eligible this fall to play next spring.
The most valuable thing he has learned is that he has a Coach who does genuinely care about his well-being off the field. This takes a LOT of anxiety off of Dad and mom!
Like Coach and Kev, I miss my son tremendously. I didn't realize the adjustment that I too would be making during this time. It's hard I admit. But at the same time I am enjoying watching him grow into his independence and how to make wise decisions. I know more "bumps" will come, but in those, he will grow. His Coach will make sure of it I am most certain!
Fall practice ends officially this week and he is ready for the break! He has been going strong since last January and needs some down time.
He has learned VERY quickly that the Professor's actually DO talk with the Coaches on a regular basis!
It is quite frustrating to not actually know HOW he is doing in his classes so all I can do is trust him when he says he is doing fine. He knows that he must be eligible this fall to play next spring.
The most valuable thing he has learned is that he has a Coach who does genuinely care about his well-being off the field. This takes a LOT of anxiety off of Dad and mom!
Like Coach and Kev, I miss my son tremendously. I didn't realize the adjustment that I too would be making during this time. It's hard I admit. But at the same time I am enjoying watching him grow into his independence and how to make wise decisions. I know more "bumps" will come, but in those, he will grow. His Coach will make sure of it I am most certain!
Fall practice ends officially this week and he is ready for the break! He has been going strong since last January and needs some down time.
College freshman son is home for a few days of his fall break. He made it through fall ball, worked hard, had a great time, and thinks he has started on the huge learning curve known as college baseball.
I can already see some signs of newfound maturity after only 2 months of college. He loves his team and says they all get along and have great chemistry. The older players seem to be mentoring the younger guys on and off the field. It sure seems like this is a great fit, academic and athletic.
He did say some of the conditioning was the most difficult running he's ever done. Between 6:30 am weight lifting, class 8-12, practice with older player at his position for an hour before team practice 2-5pm, study hall and a night class his days were filled. He managed to nap sometimes and eat sometimes and is absolutely loving it.
So the first of many hurdles is over. I know it won't always be smooth sailing but this has been a great way to start his college experience.
I can already see some signs of newfound maturity after only 2 months of college. He loves his team and says they all get along and have great chemistry. The older players seem to be mentoring the younger guys on and off the field. It sure seems like this is a great fit, academic and athletic.
He did say some of the conditioning was the most difficult running he's ever done. Between 6:30 am weight lifting, class 8-12, practice with older player at his position for an hour before team practice 2-5pm, study hall and a night class his days were filled. He managed to nap sometimes and eat sometimes and is absolutely loving it.
So the first of many hurdles is over. I know it won't always be smooth sailing but this has been a great way to start his college experience.
CABB,
Nice to hear he is off to a good start.
Fall ball is already over? We just began offical team practice/inter squad on Monday.
What do they do after he comes back, more conditioning?
Nice to hear he is off to a good start.
Fall ball is already over? We just began offical team practice/inter squad on Monday.
What do they do after he comes back, more conditioning?
I love that we can share what's going on with our FY's. It really helps me, knowing there are commonalities among most freshman in terms of what they have to deal with on and off the field.
My son has been on a 'I love it!' and 'I'm lonely' rollercoaster which seems to be getting better. He has done very well on the mound, but is having a harder time finding his social niche off the field. He is learning to be more outgoing, but it's tough at times. Classes are going well.
I remember my freshman year, leaving Michigan for Washington State University, where I knew absolutely no one, and just feeling very disconnected for awhile. Second half of FY things were much better, and sophomore year was probably the best year of my life.......so hoping he follows that common pattern of finding one's way at college.
My son has been on a 'I love it!' and 'I'm lonely' rollercoaster which seems to be getting better. He has done very well on the mound, but is having a harder time finding his social niche off the field. He is learning to be more outgoing, but it's tough at times. Classes are going well.
I remember my freshman year, leaving Michigan for Washington State University, where I knew absolutely no one, and just feeling very disconnected for awhile. Second half of FY things were much better, and sophomore year was probably the best year of my life.......so hoping he follows that common pattern of finding one's way at college.
I love the topic!! This fall my son had a brief period(a couple of days) of "I am not sure I can hang" coupled with the famous "they love the older guys I will never get to play" syndrome after some poor workouts. A couple of TLC phone calls and solid bullpens and have not heard anything since except I love the college and my team!! Thank God because those 12am phone calls will do you in!!!
Son did the summer school/workouts. That 6-weeks gave him a little idea what to expect for school and some time to get comfortable and meet a few of the older guys that didn't go away to play ball. He learned that he is actually at school(college not high) and he needs to take care of business before playing. Walked away with two classes done, some tough lessons learned and ready for fall workouts. A good investment of time and money!
He says he has never had such a demanding schedule as he had during fall workouts! 5:30am lifting 4 days a week, afternoon running 3 days per week, catching 10 bullpens per week, 1 skills day and 3 sessions of hitting. 13 units and 5 evenings of tutoring including Sunday. Welcome to college baseball!
Had their first inter-squads yesterday and today. Had a very good first day and was rewarded with starting again today but at a different position. They said they want to get him more at bats and are looking if he can play a 2nd position. Needs to borrow fielders glove because he doesn't own one.
The calls this week were much better! But as in baseball and life I am sure we will have a few more of those TLC calls in the future. Coming home tomorrow for the 1st time in 3 months. I am not sure who is more excited about the trip, him or me!
Son did the summer school/workouts. That 6-weeks gave him a little idea what to expect for school and some time to get comfortable and meet a few of the older guys that didn't go away to play ball. He learned that he is actually at school(college not high) and he needs to take care of business before playing. Walked away with two classes done, some tough lessons learned and ready for fall workouts. A good investment of time and money!
He says he has never had such a demanding schedule as he had during fall workouts! 5:30am lifting 4 days a week, afternoon running 3 days per week, catching 10 bullpens per week, 1 skills day and 3 sessions of hitting. 13 units and 5 evenings of tutoring including Sunday. Welcome to college baseball!
Had their first inter-squads yesterday and today. Had a very good first day and was rewarded with starting again today but at a different position. They said they want to get him more at bats and are looking if he can play a 2nd position. Needs to borrow fielders glove because he doesn't own one.
The calls this week were much better! But as in baseball and life I am sure we will have a few more of those TLC calls in the future. Coming home tomorrow for the 1st time in 3 months. I am not sure who is more excited about the trip, him or me!
quote:"they love the older guys I will never get to play"
That is a formiddable hurdle.
The incumbent gets every opportunity to fail while the challenger has to outperform the incumbent.
It is a very fascinating process as you watch your son transition from challenger, to incumbent, and become a major contributor to the team.
A far less daunting process at a juco than a four year school.
Nice post, catchersdad08.