Get Aluminum Bats out of the

Nice thought ..... no way though. One only can imagine the profit margin on aluminum bats and therein lies the difficulty in getting rid of them.

Melt 'em down.

They change the game. They are not good for the game. They are dangerous. They are unfair to pitchers. The bottom line is they should be gone from every age group. Forget the money factor. Composite bats are great and they last. The safety of kids should not take a back seat to money. The game should not take a back seat to profit. Get rid of those *******!!!!!!!! Nuclear pieces of ****!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah thats right I said it. How many kids are going to have to be hurt and put in danger before something is done about it? Its sad to say but sooner or later something trajic is going to happen and then people will start talking about it again. Just one of my pet peave's as you can tell. I hate to see a pitcher make a great pitch and the hitter dings one to shallow right field for a (BASE HIT?) It changes the game and it takes away from the game. And its dangerous more importantly. I hate them period.

Melt'em, Nuke 'em, shred 'em, use 'em for Festivus Poles. Aluminum is for beer and leftovers. Imagine their profit margin if baseball people just stopped buying them.

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Originally posted by spizzlepop:
Imagine their profit margin if baseball people just stopped buying them.

I agree, I hate them!!! But as long as they are legal, someone is going to buy them because they give the hitter a little extra pop..... and yes before I here all the nah-sayers, yes you still have to hit the ball!!! But for those who can hit the ball it can be dangerous out there for pitchers....

I remember a couple of years ago a Mass. HS league banned them. I don't know if that ban is still in place or if it was just a fluff piece I read on line. It would be interesting to know.

When I was still involved in LL, I had a couple of brain dead coaches tell me that wood bats were illegal in LL for safety reasons. Can you believe that?

As the father of a "contact pitcher" I'm with you guys all the way!!

Bottom line is this: ANY bat,other than wood, can be constructed to have the EXACT SAME
dynamics as a wood bat. With the technology available today the bats can be made to have the same "sweet spot", same swing weight, same BESR, same EVERYTHING except for one thing: they won't shatter when a pitcher makes a perfect pitch.

I'm with you Coach May-saw my son give up two wind-aided HR's that would have been popups
to short left field by two left handed batters that were completely fooled. Granted it's
the same for both teams but when a 5'7", 165# kid can hit a 340ft opposite field HR with
very little effort-something is wrong.

Fans want to see the long ball and I understand that but let it be because of skill and
strength and not because of technology.

Just a side note-Jack Nicklaus-designed and built a golf course in the Cayman Islands years ago but there wasn't enough room to make it the standard length 6500-7000 yards long so they shortened every hole on the course and compensated by developing a golf ball
that would travel appr. 30% to 40% less distance using the same clubs and swings and that was the only ball that could be used there. COMMON SENSE.

HS and College could use a little.

Add up the cost of all the wood bats you would break in batting practice and games and the price of an aluminum bat doesn’t seem so bad. The BESR standard could be changed to address safety and the impacts on the game but don’t expect the bat manufacturer’s to do this on their own. They are just responding to the market. The change would have to be mandated by the sanctioning bodies. This problem and the solutions are completely in the hands of baseball people.

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Bring back the wood....

Obvious problem being....

Money....profits, ticket sales, endorsements, product development to make a new $300 bat a necessity each year...

The genie is out of the bottle and it aint going back in....

Sadly, If common sense were truely common it would be exactly that, common. And we wouldn't have these issues.

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Originally posted by Line Drive:
Add up the cost of all the wood bats you would break in batting practice and games and the price of an aluminum bat doesn’t seem so bad.

I think I used 15 bats in my 8 years of HS & College ball.... Of course I was from the Dick Allen school of bat use!! A 34 inch Nelson Fox with an extremly large diameter handle that weighed about 39 oz.

Cong

Wasn't that a great bat ?--I used it exclusively

TR,

I don't think you can find anything like it today unless you special order it.

Everyone is looking for lighter and lighter bats, but somehow, many of us got that big hunk of lumber around well enough to play

The USGA needs to dial back that golf ball while they are at it too. Anybody with a titanium driver and a $4.00 golf ball can hit it 250 yards, making the best golf courses in the world putt-putt courses.

spizzlepop:

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Originally posted by spizzlepop:
Melt'em, Nuke 'em, shred 'em, use 'em for Festivus Poles. Aluminum is for beer and leftovers. Imagine their profit margin if baseball people just stopped buying them.

Great ideas...all. Especially liked the idea of using them for Festivus Poles.

SERENITY NOW! SERENITY NOW!

Was at a game recently where a high school pitcher was hit with a line drive in the arm off an aluminum bat. The ball was hit so hard it landed in right field. Need i say more.

Will:

Nope.

"It's another Festivus MIRACLE!"

"A Festivus for the rest of us."

Dad04:

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Originally posted by Dad04:
"A Festivus for the rest of us."

"If I had my druthers, it'd be for the others!"

No way metal is cheaper at least not for me. My son wears out two a year at around 250 a pop. You can get a good composite for around 44 bucks and a couple of nice game sticks for around 120. So what if you break a couple go buy a couple more. Whats more important the safety of the players and the true play of the game or the money factor? Again I dont see how metal is cheaper than wood. At least not for me. My son is a power hitter he swings a 34-31 and has dropped 9 bombs so far this year. At least 5 or 6 of them would have been way out with wood. The kids that can drop bombs will still drop some bombs but the kid that cant hit his weight will not be going 3-4 with three bloopers over the 1st basemans head on an outside fastball that he tried to pull and hit off the cap. I hate metal , nuke em they stink. And games will not last three hours anymore either. In the summer and fall when we use wood the games are about 1 1/2 and kids learn to move runners and hit it where it is pitched. Bunting is big and hitting behind runners is big. And pitchers can pitch inside and make a good pitch and get rewarded for doing so. The game is so much better and pure it aint even close. Yes if your for metal then you have never played with wood or coached with wood.

I've said before and I will say it again - simply change the BESR formula... and the Bat manufacturers should love it because with one swip of the pen, all old bats are illegal...

I'd love to see wood come back - I'd have to double check but I would bet that over 50% of the hits that my son has given up this year would be broken bats in a wood bat league...

Nothing is worse than getting into the guy's kitchen and a flare to right falling in...

The league I play in is switching to wood bats this year. There weren't a lot of "incidents" with line drives off the bat injuring a pitcher and so forth, but the whole idea is that using wood bats can only make us better hitters, and it'll be a much easier adjustment to college level, where aluminum is (for now) allowed.

Gotta agree with some of Coach May's comments. My son is also a power hitter who loves summer and fall because he can swing the wood bat vs. the aluminum bat. My son often hits those quick line drives and has had to deal with twow incidencies this year. He has broken two players fingers. Players are out for n extended time and he has to deal with a bit of guilt. Would this have hapened if he was swing a wood bat. Maybe but ......