- "my grammar is ok, but my grammpa is the best."
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play baseball,
I hope that you don't get a hard time from mr. Woodman.
It's funny how we all have opinions on the subject, I feel that instead of taking the time for the young to learn cursive, spend more time teaching skills on the pc, because just like many things in life, certain skills we needed will eventually become unnecessary and obsolete for the future. Provide a pc for the writing part of tests. Provide printers in classrooms. Spend more time on speaking english properly rather than writing, this I find to be a skill lacking in our youth. I would much prefer that son or daugther be able to carry on a conversation with a coach over the phone or in person (job interview) rather than spell a word or two wrong on an application. Giving a spelling list on monday to take home and memorize for a test on friday has become meaningless, I'd rather you spend more time with a book, seeing the words over and over rather than memorizing it. The problem is that the rules in english language are much more difficult than most other languages. That's why so many adult foreigners won't learn.
A few years back I applied for a job, given a list of words to mark off if spelled properly or not, this was for PHONE sales, I passed. Last year I applied for a job and they told me that my pc skills were not adequate. Personally, I think it was their way of telling me I was too old for the job.
I think a lot of the problem is that us older folks want the young to conform to doing things our way, not their way.
JMO.
I hope that you don't get a hard time from mr. Woodman.
It's funny how we all have opinions on the subject, I feel that instead of taking the time for the young to learn cursive, spend more time teaching skills on the pc, because just like many things in life, certain skills we needed will eventually become unnecessary and obsolete for the future. Provide a pc for the writing part of tests. Provide printers in classrooms. Spend more time on speaking english properly rather than writing, this I find to be a skill lacking in our youth. I would much prefer that son or daugther be able to carry on a conversation with a coach over the phone or in person (job interview) rather than spell a word or two wrong on an application. Giving a spelling list on monday to take home and memorize for a test on friday has become meaningless, I'd rather you spend more time with a book, seeing the words over and over rather than memorizing it. The problem is that the rules in english language are much more difficult than most other languages. That's why so many adult foreigners won't learn.
A few years back I applied for a job, given a list of words to mark off if spelled properly or not, this was for PHONE sales, I passed. Last year I applied for a job and they told me that my pc skills were not adequate. Personally, I think it was their way of telling me I was too old for the job.
I think a lot of the problem is that us older folks want the young to conform to doing things our way, not their way.
JMO.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
All relative to where you come from, yesterday I was talking to someone from a deep south state, I had absolutely no clue what they were saying, proper grammar or not, it was not the english I am familiar with.
Living where I am, I also need to brush up on my creole and spanish.
Living where I am, I also need to brush up on my creole and spanish.
Grammar and baseball don't go together. The debate about "book larning" has been going on since the Pilgrims landed.
The transition in language you are seeing now is no different than in the 1920's, or 1960's when youth crafted slang to distinguish themselves from previous generations. As several posters have already noted, this is a result of social networking, the use of new technology which encourages a communication shorthand, music, TV, and a youth culture which dominates in this country.
The transition in language you are seeing now is no different than in the 1920's, or 1960's when youth crafted slang to distinguish themselves from previous generations. As several posters have already noted, this is a result of social networking, the use of new technology which encourages a communication shorthand, music, TV, and a youth culture which dominates in this country.
Would grammar be from New England?quote:my grammar is ok, but my grammpa is the best.
quote:Originally posted by brod:
Grammar and baseball don't go together. The debate about "book larning" has been going on since the Pilgrims landed.
The transition in language you are seeing now is no different than in the 1920's, or 1960's when youth crafted slang to distinguish themselves from previous generations. As several posters have already noted, this is a result of social networking, the use of new technology which encourages a communication shorthand, music, TV, and a youth culture which dominates in this country.
Youth have always been decadent and society has always been on the decline. Yet we somehow keep plugging along.
Communication is about the exhange of ideas. I think sometimes we get so wrapped up in the manner of the exchange we lose sight of the substance of the ideas.
ETA: Besides, who's to say what is proper or not? It's relative to the age. Olde English was proper in 1500 but would be oddly out of place now.
Spelling might not be all that important to get your message across but it can make you look uneducated or keep you from climbing the employment ladder.
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Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
dr mr tr,
i dnt knw wat u r tlking abt I tlk wid my frnds al the tim lk this i wld lke to ply on ur teem hwver as i hrd grt thngs abt u cld u arrng fr a tryout for me? i am a vry gd bllplyer and cn ht the bll reel far i also m a gd stdnt an gt gd grads txt me whn u gt ths mssg thx blly bllplyer gdluk n pcm
i knw u r hving a prblm rding tis so i prvded a trsnlatn fr u blw
ATB All The Best OIC Oh I See
NE1 Anyone OBTW Oh, by the way
NETHING Anything OTOH On the other hand
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RU Are You PRL Parents are listening
RU CMNG Are You Coming Ppl People
RUOK? Are you OK PUKS Pick Up Kids
AFAIK As far as I know PL&ED Planned
8 Ate PLZ Please
Bafld Baffled PCM Please Call Me
B Be POSIBL Possible
BBL8R Be back later Q Queue
BBS Be back soon RGDS Regards
BRB Be right back RNINL8 Running Late
BCNU Be seeing you C See
B4 Before CYAL8R See ya later!
BTW By the Way CYA See ya!
B4N Bye For Now CU See You
CM Call Me CU @... See You at ...O'Clock
CUB L8R Call You Back Later CUL8R See you later
CYR ... Call your ... C U SOON See you soon
CYR PA Call Your Father CU 2MORO See You Tomorrow
CYR SIS Call your sister CU 2NITE See You Tonight
Cud Could C See/Sea
DNR Dinner SHOPN Shopping
Don Doing SOM1 Someone
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A? Eh? SIT Stay in Touch
911 Emergency - Call Me T2UL8R Talk to you Later
XLNT Excellent TTFN Ta-Ta for now
FST Fast T Tea
4 For TXT Text
4U For You TEXTIN Texting
GFN Gone for now THNQ Thank you
Gud Good THX Thanks
BY Good Bye TA Thanks Again
GT2GO Got To Go TIA Thanks in advance
GUDLUK Good Luck 2B To be
GR8 Great 2 To/too
H8 Hate 2DAY Today
HAGN Have a good night 2MORO Tomorrow
HAG1 Have a good one 2NITE Tonight
HAND Have a nice day W8 Wait
HLO Hello W8N Waiting
HWRU How Are You W8in 4 Waiting for
IUKWIM If you know what I mean WAN2 Want to
JIC Just in case WKND Weekend
KIT Keep in touch WOT What
L8 Late WRU Where are you?
L8R Later Y Why
LYN Lie in WI With
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i dnt knw wat u r tlking abt I tlk wid my frnds al the tim lk this i wld lke to ply on ur teem hwver as i hrd grt thngs abt u cld u arrng fr a tryout for me? i am a vry gd bllplyer and cn ht the bll reel far i also m a gd stdnt an gt gd grads txt me whn u gt ths mssg thx blly bllplyer gdluk n pcm
i knw u r hving a prblm rding tis so i prvded a trsnlatn fr u blw
ATB All The Best OIC Oh I See
NE1 Anyone OBTW Oh, by the way
NETHING Anything OTOH On the other hand
R Are OTT Over The Top
RU Are You PRL Parents are listening
RU CMNG Are You Coming Ppl People
RUOK? Are you OK PUKS Pick Up Kids
AFAIK As far as I know PL&ED Planned
8 Ate PLZ Please
Bafld Baffled PCM Please Call Me
B Be POSIBL Possible
BBL8R Be back later Q Queue
BBS Be back soon RGDS Regards
BRB Be right back RNINL8 Running Late
BCNU Be seeing you C See
B4 Before CYAL8R See ya later!
BTW By the Way CYA See ya!
B4N Bye For Now CU See You
CM Call Me CU @... See You at ...O'Clock
CUB L8R Call You Back Later CUL8R See you later
CYR ... Call your ... C U SOON See you soon
CYR PA Call Your Father CU 2MORO See You Tomorrow
CYR SIS Call your sister CU 2NITE See You Tonight
Cud Could C See/Sea
DNR Dinner SHOPN Shopping
Don Doing SOM1 Someone
EZ Easy SPK Speak
A? Eh? SIT Stay in Touch
911 Emergency - Call Me T2UL8R Talk to you Later
XLNT Excellent TTFN Ta-Ta for now
FST Fast T Tea
4 For TXT Text
4U For You TEXTIN Texting
GFN Gone for now THNQ Thank you
Gud Good THX Thanks
BY Good Bye TA Thanks Again
GT2GO Got To Go TIA Thanks in advance
GUDLUK Good Luck 2B To be
GR8 Great 2 To/too
H8 Hate 2DAY Today
HAGN Have a good night 2MORO Tomorrow
HAG1 Have a good one 2NITE Tonight
HAND Have a nice day W8 Wait
HLO Hello W8N Waiting
HWRU How Are You W8in 4 Waiting for
IUKWIM If you know what I mean WAN2 Want to
JIC Just in case WKND Weekend
KIT Keep in touch WOT What
L8 Late WRU Where are you?
L8R Later Y Why
LYN Lie in WI With
M8 Mate U You
M8S Mates YR Your
NUFN Nothing UR You are
BOF,
I'm impressed with your shorthand "text" list. Have you picked this up over the years? OR, did your son give you a Cheat-Sheet for the HSBBWEB parents for future use? I'll have to make a copy and use it as a reference while texting my kids!
I'm impressed with your shorthand "text" list. Have you picked this up over the years? OR, did your son give you a Cheat-Sheet for the HSBBWEB parents for future use? I'll have to make a copy and use it as a reference while texting my kids!
The main headline on our local sports page last Sunday read "Coaches Breath Life into Progams"; both the editor and the writer are adults!
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
The other aspect that is failing is handwriting---kids do not write anymore
In my catholic school, they wouldn't let us use pens until we can show the nuns that we had good penmanship.
But then as an adult, it turns out that the snartest people and the ones making the big bucks have the sloppiest handwriting :
Doctors
Go figure
I agree with TPM's comment. I actually like the short-hand when texting. But my concern is the lack of formal "speaking skills" being taught today. Yes, it's an electronic world we live in, but the kids DO need to occasionally speak formally without slang and expletives!quote:TPM .... Spend more time on speaking English properly rather than writing, this I find to be a skill lacking in our youth. I would much prefer that son or daughter be able to carry on a conversation with a coach over the phone or in person (job interview) rather than spell a word or two wrong on an application.
