Would the play at the plate last night been different had he slid feet first?
If he is out, would a feet first slide made a difference?
Was anyone else suprised that Holliday didn't run over Barrett?
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Feet first or do a Pete Rose/Ray Fosse on him. Rose's explanation (as I recall)...
..."Had I slid feet first I could've broken my legs...and had I slid head first, I could've broken my neck."
..."Had I slid feet first I could've broken my legs...and had I slid head first, I could've broken my neck."
Makes sense top me JT.
deldad ...
I watched that replay over and over and thought perhaps Holliday did get a piece of the plate as his hand was sliding right near the catcher's cleats. And the delayed call ... perhaps the umpire was waiting for the catcher do 'make a statement' and since he didn't 'complain', the umpire called Holliday safe.
Just wondering how Holliday's mouth is ... he dragged his face thru the dirt quite a way and I would imagine his lip is like hamburger meat this morning. Ouch that looked like it hurt.
I watched that replay over and over and thought perhaps Holliday did get a piece of the plate as his hand was sliding right near the catcher's cleats. And the delayed call ... perhaps the umpire was waiting for the catcher do 'make a statement' and since he didn't 'complain', the umpire called Holliday safe.
Just wondering how Holliday's mouth is ... he dragged his face thru the dirt quite a way and I would imagine his lip is like hamburger meat this morning. Ouch that looked like it hurt.
IMHO, Holliday wouldn't truck Bennet because of risk of injury -- he's looking at post season play.
Head first, the runner can avoid the blocking catcher and get a fingertip on the plate (or not
); feet first, the runner might jam an ankle into the catcher as he's got to go straight for the plate, thus risking injury and being blocked and called out.
Head first, the runner can avoid the blocking catcher and get a fingertip on the plate (or not
); feet first, the runner might jam an ankle into the catcher as he's got to go straight for the plate, thus risking injury and being blocked and called out.quote:Originally posted by Orlando:
IMHO, Holliday wouldn't truck Bennet because of risk of injury -- he's looking at post season play.
Exactly right Orlando.
He saw back door open but catcher took it away at last second; bent leg should have been used to slide thru catcher.
Since you can't knock the catcher down in high school ball [or college ball, I think] my rule is the same as I was taught by my father. Head first if the plate is not blocked and open, spikes first if the plate is blocked [assuming you have enough awarness to note the distinction and enough time to adjust you slide].
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quote:Originally posted by JT:
Feet first or do a Pete Rose/Ray Fosse on him. Rose's explanation (as I recall)...
..."Had I slid feet first I could've broken my legs...and had I slid head first, I could've broken my neck."
Today's "MILLION $$$$$$ BABY" has decided to play the game a little different than "Charlie Hustle" did back in the day.
My Son likes to go to the outside of the plate or bag head first at times, other times he goes in feet first. I love the hustle or fearlessness of the headfirst slide and it has served him well in close plays. But, now I have both a sense of thrill and a cringe of fear for his health whenever I see it comming.
All the slides from the 1925 world series were feet first;
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3491876099553807781
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3491876099553807781
My son's team instructs them to slide in feet first.